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Why do people continue to take Fox News seriously?

Somerville said:
How can I be "a couple short"? I said "three comments" and then provided the numbers of those three. I haven't made a comment about anything other than comments 441-442-443
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Maybe a few.

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madasheck said:
Despite a few seemingly serious news people at Fox (like Shep Smith), the face of Fox News is basically Hannity, Ingraham and Carlson. They're all full of rage every night at everyone else in the media and spewing conspiracy theories, faux outrage as well as what's wrong with everyone in the Democratic Party. This is not news (which some think it is) or even serious political commentary. It's a circus. Fox may have started with the intention of having an alternate news source, but it's nothing like that now. News is not hurling accusations for 15 minutes each night at the beginning of your show (like Hannity and his stooge so-called Judge Pirro does). Even the real news media doesn't take Fox seriously. It's the laughing stock among those work in the media and not just those at Fox's favorite targets like CNN.

So why do some people take this Fox crap seriously when so many people are laughing at it?
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Why do people tune in to watch Rachel Maddow after she spent the last two years parroting goofy conspiracy theories about Russia ?

Why is there a market for a second Michael Wolff book ? Why does Adam Schiff keep getting re-elected ? People are going to search out and listen to whatever media source that confirms their biases.
 
Fenton said:
Why do people tune in to watch Rachel Maddow after she spent the last two years parroting goofy conspiracy theories about Russia ?

Why is there a market for a second Michael Wolff book ? Why does Adam Schiff keep getting re-elected ? People are going to search out and listen to whatever media source that confirms their biases.
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Ms Maddow was "parroting goofy conspiracy theories about Russia" only in the minds of those who never watch her show and probably/possibly only view snippets of her shows, snippets which have been edited and manipulated by the conspiracy nuts.
 
Somerville said:
Ms Maddow was "parroting goofy conspiracy theories about Russia" only in the minds of those who never watch her show and probably/possibly only view snippets of her shows, snippets which have been edited and manipulated by the conspiracy nuts.
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I've seen her in action unfiltered and unedited.

Madcow's nuttier than my granny's holiday cookies...

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Fenton said:
Why do people tune in to watch Rachel Maddow after she spent the last two years parroting goofy conspiracy theories about Russia ?

Why is there a market for a second Michael Wolff book ? Why does Adam Schiff keep getting re-elected ? People are going to search out and listen to whatever media source that confirms their biases.
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Where do the biases come from in the first place? The answer is liberal based education and liberal media. There is circular firing squad, where those who pander to the bias, created the bias; fake news and misinformation.

For example, the various intelligence agencies under Obama, leaked fake intel to the media; Trump Russian collusion. The media used these leaks from high level government sources, as fodder for news stories about Trump. The Intelligence Agencies then used these news stories, from high prestige new sources, like the NYTimes, as a second source for a FISA warrant justification. This circular credibility allowed them to spy on the Trump campaign.

Further leaks were made by these same intel agencies, unmasking those who were illegally spied on, in an attempt to frame Trump in a bad light. This result was even more fake news stories, used to make Trump and his staff, appear to be colluding. The audience bias was groomed from outside the audience. It was a faux bias based on an illusion.

The CNN audience, who is not yet aware of this magic trick, is still fooled by a bias, that was never real. The main stream media still feeds into the bias, to maintain audience share.

Some members of the left are stuck in the loop. Barr will show them how to swim perpendicular to the rip currents, breaking the hold of the loop. However, many will be told by fake news to swim with the bias currents, even if they get lost at sea.

One of the media bias tricks is based on repetition. Say Trump is giving speech and he make a comment that rubs you the wrong way. This may impact you, but since there is no pregnant pause, and his fast paced speech moves forward, the sour mood is very temporary. The media will cherry pick, this one button pushing comment, and play it again and again, all day long, until you can't get our of the rip currents of bias. Fake news is not your friend anymore that a drug dealer is a friend to a junky, who the dealer got hooked and now maintains for profit.
 
As far as people like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and others, who are Conservative opinion people , go back two or three years and read what they said about the collusion delusion. They were way ahead of the curve and already had the collusion delusion figured out, in general. They were already putting the pieces of evidence together.

The left wing propaganda ministry hates these people, because they make it harder for them to run their scams. They have been durable against fake new scams that have been employed against them. But as time goes on and the past becomes more objective, these people shine in terms of the speed at which they figure things out, way in advance of the curve.

If you are interested in the future news, even before the scams fully play out, these are your best sources. If you wish to be stuck in the magic tricks, avoid them, since they will spoil the tricks by showing the hidden wires. This is what real journalism used to be. Fake News is more like a business model that uses nets to troll for shrimp. The shrimp get stuck in the net, but don't seem to notice, since they also seem to be moving forward. This was the original definition of trolling.
 
wellwisher said:
As far as people like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and others, who are Conservative opinion people , go back two or three years and read what they said about the collusion delusion. They were way ahead of the curve and already had the collusion delusion figured out, in general. They were already putting the pieces of evidence together.

The left wing propaganda ministry hates these people, because they make it harder for them to run their scams. They have been durable against fake new scams that have been employed against them. But as time goes on and the past becomes more objective, these people shine in terms of the speed at which they figure things out, way in advance of the curve.

If you are interested in the future news, even before the scams fully play out, these are your best sources. If you wish to be stuck in the magic tricks, avoid them, since they will spoil the tricks by showing the hidden wires. This is what real journalism used to be. Fake News is more like a business model that uses nets to troll for shrimp. The shrimp get stuck in the net, but don't seem to notice, since they also seem to be moving forward. This was the original definition of trolling.
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Somerville said:
Ms Maddow was "parroting goofy conspiracy theories about Russia" only in the minds of those who never watch her show and probably/possibly only view snippets of her shows, snippets which have been edited and manipulated by the conspiracy nuts.
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Remember this ? :lamo :lamo :lamo

 
madasheck said:
Despite a few seemingly serious news people at Fox (like Shep Smith), the face of Fox News is basically Hannity, Ingraham and Carlson. They're all full of rage every night at everyone else in the media and spewing conspiracy theories, faux outrage as well as what's wrong with everyone in the Democratic Party. This is not news (which some think it is) or even serious political commentary. It's a circus. Fox may have started with the intention of having an alternate news source, but it's nothing like that now. News is not hurling accusations for 15 minutes each night at the beginning of your show (like Hannity and his stooge so-called Judge Pirro does). Even the real news media doesn't take Fox seriously. It's the laughing stock among those work in the media and not just those at Fox's favorite targets like CNN.

So why do some people take this Fox crap seriously when so many people are laughing at it?
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FOX is far more open to engaging in dissenting ideas than are the Left's news of CNN and MSNBC
 
Fenton said:
Why do people tune in to watch Rachel Maddow after she spent the last two years parroting goofy conspiracy theories about Russia ?

Why is there a market for a second Michael Wolff book ? Why does Adam Schiff keep getting re-elected ? People are going to search out and listen to whatever media source that confirms their biases.
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Except the Mueller Report proved some of those conspiracy theories. And Adam Schiff is one of the best Democratic leaders out there. As for Wolff, just because a book is out doesn't mean anyone is buying it. (And it's not on the best seller list.)

But after seeing Mark Levin on there, gotta wonder why there's a market for his stupidity?
 
Bodhisattva said:
FOX is far more open to engaging in dissenting ideas than are the Left's news of CNN and MSNBC
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You call the bull**** conspiracy theories Fox spews "dissenting ideas"? LOL ... Tell me another one...
 
wellwisher said:
As far as people like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and others, who are Conservative opinion people , go back two or three years and read what they said about the collusion delusion. They were way ahead of the curve and already had the collusion delusion figured out, in general. They were already putting the pieces of evidence together.
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Hate to burst your conservative bubble, but Limbaugh and Hannity would never EVER have accepted anything negative about their dear Trump. They didn't put any evidence together. They just dismissed it all

The left wing propaganda ministry hates these people, because they make it harder for them to run their scams. They have been durable against fake new scams that have been employed against them. But as time goes on and the past becomes more objective, these people shine in terms of the speed at which they figure things out, way in advance of the curve.

If you are interested in the future news, even before the scams fully play out, these are your best sources. If you wish to be stuck in the magic tricks, avoid them, since they will spoil the tricks by showing the hidden wires. This is what real journalism used to be. Fake News is more like a business model that uses nets to troll for shrimp. The shrimp get stuck in the net, but don't seem to notice, since they also seem to be moving forward. This was the original definition of trolling.
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You really have been scammed by the right-wing nutcases. Neither Rush or Hannity are anything close to news sources. They're clowns in the conservative circus playing their act nightly for their audiences. Nothing they say is close to reality.
 
Re:wh Why do people continue to take Fox News seriously?

madasheck said:
Except the Mueller Report proved some of those conspiracy theories. And Adam Schiff is one of the best Democratic leaders out there. As for Wolff, just because a book is out doesn't mean anyone is buying it. (And it's not on the best seller list.)

But after seeing Mark Levin on there, gotta wonder why there's a market for his stupidity?
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What conspiracy theories did Team Mueller prove ??
 
madasheck said:
You call the bull**** conspiracy theories Fox spews "dissenting ideas"? LOL ... Tell me another one...
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Nope. I call them having on Liberals far more than CNN has on Conservatives more open...
 
Re: wh Why do people continue to take Fox News seriously?

hanger4 said:
What conspiracy theories did Team Mueller prove ??
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Read the Report and find out.


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madasheck said:
Despite a few seemingly serious news people at Fox (like Shep Smith), the face of Fox News is basically Hannity, Ingraham and Carlson. They're all full of rage every night at everyone else in the media and spewing conspiracy theories, faux outrage as well as what's wrong with everyone in the Democratic Party. This is not news (which some think it is) or even serious political commentary. It's a circus. Fox may have started with the intention of having an alternate news source, but it's nothing like that now. News is not hurling accusations for 15 minutes each night at the beginning of your show (like Hannity and his stooge so-called Judge Pirro does). Even the real news media doesn't take Fox seriously. It's the laughing stock among those work in the media and not just those at Fox's favorite targets like CNN.

So why do some people take this Fox crap seriously when so many people are laughing at it?
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Liberals thoroughly brainwashed by leftist propaganda imagine truth is error and lies are truth. I'm not sure there is a cure. God also said He would send strong delusion in the last days on all those who reject the truth so that they will believe the lie and not the truth. That seems to be what is happening.

Here's an example: All intelligence sources and law enforcement witnesses have declared that Trump did not collude with Russians, yet Nadler and Schiff still believe the lie. There is no logical explanation for such stupidity apart from blindness.
 
marke said:
Liberals thoroughly brainwashed by leftist propaganda imagine truth is error and lies are truth. I'm not sure there is a cure. God also said He would send strong delusion in the last days on all those who reject the truth so that they will believe the lie and not the truth. That seems to be what is happening.

Here's an example: All intelligence sources and law enforcement witnesses have declared that Trump did not collude with Russians, yet Nadler and Schiff still believe the lie. There is no logical explanation for such stupidity apart from blindness.
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Read the Report. Barr didn’t write it. Mueller did.



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Gaugingcatenate said:
Do you actually expect anyone with even a minimal lick of any sense on up to take you seriously?

It's not even worth arguing with you about anything factual if you actually believe that the Fox reporting is worse than what is happening in the fake news MSM.

Tell you what, name the fatal bombshell against Trump, of all the many, reported over and over and over and over by the fake news channels the last two years, that is actually fatal. If you can do that, and support that fatal bombshell with anything known in the biz as, you know... proof, then maybe we can have a conversation.

You won't do so because you cannot. It simply does not exist, its a figment of the left wing's continuous fantasy. A truly overly moist [read: drenched ] dream.
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Fox hosts and in particular Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson have pushed the fear of whites being a minority in the future and that scares the hell out of Trump supporter, fear of being a minority and Hispanics being the majority. It's a natural process that nobody can stop, but it's a process that Trump and Fox are willing to start a civil war over.

Just for you, I will highlight just the 'ping' words, the ones that make Fox viewers emotionally react viscerally. You're possibly immune to them by now. The message is loud and it is very clear as to what Fox is trying to do. They're fear mongering and repeating the same words over and over work in your mind, make you afraid of Hispanics.

Ingraham fearmongered on her podcast that Democrats support “replacing the current American population” with “new immigrants.”

Ingraham warned that undocumented immigrants are coming to “replace kind of the old America with a new America.” She added that this would be an “electoral lock forever” for Democrats.

Fox host Pete Hegseth said Trump has reached an agreement with Mexico to “stop the invasion -- it is an invasion -- of illegal immigrants.”

Discussing undocumented immigrants, Ingraham claimed that “this is an invasion of the country.” Telling her listeners that “they want to tell you you can’t say that anymore,” she doubled down on claiming that “they are invading the country.”

On her podcast, Ingraham claimed Congress wants to change America “demographically” by “bring[ing] so many new people into the country that don’t have an affinity for our country.” She added that these are changes “that nobody voted for.”

Fox contributor Lawrence Jones defended putting migrants seeking asylum in camps on the border because they’re “invading the U.S. border.”

On Fox & Friends, Jones said that the, unlike Jews in Nazi Germany, migrants in America are “invading the U.S. border,” justifying the treatment of migrants in camps at the border.

Ingraham and her guest Pat Buchanan warned that immigration will change “the whole character and composition of the nation.” Buchanan added that “we're becoming a different country without consulting the American people, who never voted for any of this. ... You're talking about the destiny of a country.”

Ingraham again warned that “the Democrats want to replace many of you.”

Ingraham complained that immigrants create “huge assimilation problems, especially with those coming from very different cultures.” She added that “we're dealing with a total breakdown in the values of this country that I grew up in, and it's just disgusting.”

Speaking to Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, Ingraham said his state is “completely overrun by this illegal invasion” and “calling it anything but an invasion at this point is just not being honest with people.”

On his Fox show, Tucker Carlson fearmongered about immigrants replacing an aging American population. He asserted that he isn’t “against the immigrants” but rather “for the Americans” because “nobody cares about them. It’s like, shut up, you’re dying, we’re gonna replace you.”

Carlson said that the U.S. “was a better country than it is now in a lot of ways” back when it was “more cohesive.” (white)

On his show, Carlson ominously warned that immigration will “change this country completely and forever.” He complained that asking questions about our immigration goals spurs an “endless drone of self-righteous children barking about racism.”

Fox contributor Mike Huckabee referred to the migrants seeking asylum as “the invasion -- and that’s what it is,” claiming migrants are “running over the border.”

Fox contributor and Fox Nation host Tomi Lahren called for people to be “upset and outraged” over a caravan of asylum-seekers because it is an “invasion by foreigners.”
 
madasheck said:
Liberals? What liberals?


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Are you asking me to provide their names or do you actually not watch Fox...
 
madasheck said:
Read the Report. Barr didn’t write it. Mueller did.
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Mueller did not write it either, Herr A. Whole Weissmann did. When testifying before Congress he admitted there were things in the report he did not know were there.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Are you asking me to provide their names or do you actually not watch Fox...
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Both. I wouldn’t waste my time watching it.


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Re: wh Why do people continue to take Fox News seriously?

madasheck said:
Read the Report and find out.


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Considering Team Mueller "did not establish" a conspiracy or coordination it must be none.
 
madasheck said:
Both. I wouldn’t waste my time watching it.


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So your comment that Fox is not more open to hearing the other side is absolute and total ignorance... got it.
 
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