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The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

CriticalThought said:
Uh huh. It is no different than Obama claiming if you like your plan you can keep it. Trump overpromised and under delivered.

Have we gotten that check yet? No? Oh, so anything Trump says or does was just "an option" until he pulls it off, and when he doesn't...well the left then is lying!

Meh, sounds like you are loving some orange Kool Aid.
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Obama wasn't lying about that either... plans change.
 
CriticalThought said:
Lol. This **** is what keeps me coming back to this site.
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What... the partisan hackery of people that care more about scoring some bull**** points against the other side than what is best for Americans?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Why would we need to lie and make up things when he gives us at least a half dozen examples a day of actual lies?

Conservatives seem to hate the entire idea of holding the president accountable for what he says. They've become the defender of lies because partisanship outweighs even the truth.
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Good question. Why do you lie when there are so many legitimate examples?
 
Bodhisattva said:
What... the partisan hackery of people that care more about scoring some bull**** points against the other side than what is best for Americans?
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The wall is purely partisan. The GOP did not care about it until they lost House. In fact they largely opposed it and saw it as the waste of money that it is. The only people who support it are those who are the least educated on US immigration history. Talking about building walls is actually worsening illegal immigration because it is keeping seasonal workers returning home because they are concerned it will be harder to get back. In other cases it is incentivizing others to come because their family is already here and there is concern about getting cut off from them. Few people have wondered why Pelosi called it "immoral" and have joked that she thinks all walls are immoral.
 
PleasantValley said:
Xelor,...damn, my friend, my pain meds were just kicking in and I was scrolling later at night (see the time) and then this came up.
It is a good thing my office chair has backward leaning stops.
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LOL...

Sorry.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I don't, and the vast majority of what the media reports that Trump says and does is true.
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You are wasting your time. You could have video evidence of Trump in his own words and it would still be "fake news", or "he wasn't serious", or "what about...". They cannot see Trump lies because they don't want to see them. Their grandchildren will be the ones who shake them from their illusions in 20 years when they finally have to face the consequences of ignoring reality today.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I don't, and the vast majority of what the media reports that Trump says and does is true.
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There have been way to many instances of them having to retract stories to ignore.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Do you think that the Left makes up any lies about Trump... trying to state that he lies, or is racist, etc.?
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Both are accurate... The left and media do lie about Trump lying. However, Trump does lie quite a bit. In other words, many of the lies the media/left claim, are not lies but just misrepresented as such.

All politicians lie... and I wouldn't believe a single one. But, Trump does seem to lie more than the average.
 
Fishking said:
There have been way to many instances of them having to retract stories to ignore.
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And yet the fact remains that the vast majority of stories about what Trump says and does are true. When has Trump ever admitted he said something false and retracted it? When is the last time on here you've criticized him for saying something false? You can't pretend to value honesty and the truth if you excuse and defend his lies.
 
CriticalThought said:
The wall is purely partisan. The GOP did not care about it until they lost House. In fact they largely opposed it and saw it as the waste of money that it is. The only people who support it are those who are the least educated on US immigration history. Talking about building walls is actually worsening illegal immigration because it is keeping seasonal workers returning home because they are concerned it will be harder to get back. In other cases it is incentivizing others to come because their family is already here and there is concern about getting cut off from them. Few people have wondered why Pelosi called it "immoral" and have joked that she thinks all walls are immoral.
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There has been border separation for well over forty years... built and maintained by both sides... try again.
 
PleasantValley said:
The emotion and tone of your post reflects a lot more than just a disagreement.
I am not the only one that sensed it, either.
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People can 'sense' whatever they like. I will say a lot of negative things about Trump but will never personally attack any poster here. You will do me the same courtesy.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Do you think that the Left makes up any lies about Trump... trying to state that he lies, or is racist, etc.?
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Sure they do. Trump never lies. Repeat after me. Trump never lies...Trump_Pinocchio.jpg
 
Greg Gutfield's show yesterday was solid gold. If you have a chance to at least watch the first 15 minutes it's worth it.


 
vesper said:
Greg Gutfield's show yesterday was solid gold. If you have a chance to at least watch the first 15 minutes it's worth it.


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Oh yeah, that's priceless. So it's time to throw the tape in the trashcan, with the rest of the FAUX news trash.
 
Oborosen said:
Okay, this has been beaten into the ground more times than I'd care to count.
Yes, they do make up stories about Trump. Far more than I'd say actually exist about the man at this point. That isn't saying that the man himself doesn't have his own issue with the Truth. But that is far from the least of things that I'd be worried about with a politician.

But we've seen story, upon story show up that the left leaning media had to redact, or quietly sweep under the rug about Trump in the past two years. This doesn't even cover the amount of stories that claim some sort of hate crime and attribute it to Trump's actions. Because a multitude of those just flew out of nowhere after he was elected and to my knowledge, still persist to this day.

This is just a tired, old, concept right here.
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So show us the made up stories.
 
Media_Truth said:
Oh yeah, that's priceless. So it's time to throw the tape in the trashcan, with the rest of the FAUX news trash.
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The best was the public announcement asking anyone who found two prune shaped orbs on Pennsylvania Ave., to put them on ice and return them to Jim Acosta.


:lamo
 
Trump says that his lies are true and says that the truth are lies.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Kind of hilarious considering you were one of the people who did hyperbolize and insult Obama every chance you got. Can you give us a few solid examples of times you held Trump accountable? Times you really disagreed with him and called him out for his behavior and or decisions? You must have done it in a secret club meeting because I don't think anyone else has seen it.
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I'll do that as soon as you can prove your claims of what I've said about Obama. Because I supported that man until he screwed us over and then refused to vote for his second term.

Which means I should even hold my breath at this point. Considering who it is, that I just made such a request of.
 
Oborosen said:
Okay, this has been beaten into the ground more times than I'd care to count.
Yes, they do make up stories about Trump. Far more than I'd say actually exist about the man at this point. That isn't saying that the man himself doesn't have his own issue with the Truth. But that is far from the least of things that I'd be worried about with a politician.

But we've seen story, upon story show up that the left leaning media had to redact, or quietly sweep under the rug about Trump in the past two years. This doesn't even cover the amount of stories that claim some sort of hate crime and attribute it to Trump's actions. Because a multitude of those just flew out of nowhere after he was elected and to my knowledge, still persist to this day.

This is just a tired, old, concept right here.
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Not really Oborosen….Trump does well enough by himself<PUTTING HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH AND LYING AD-NAUSIAM...THE GUY IS A SOFT-PRICK AND NOT A VERY GOOD ONE
 
CriticalThought said:
And yet it was...

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...claims-he-never-meant-mexico-would-write-che/

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

So I repeat, has Mexico cut us our check for the wall yet?
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I wouldn't call "Mexico's going to pay for the wall" a lie. That statement and Trump's embracing it strikes me as:

  • Trump's lack of understanding about the nature and extent of his own abilities,
  • a reflection of Trump's utter ignorance of the powers a POTUS has,
  • a reflection of Trump's utterly ignorance of the sovereignty of other nations, and
  • Trump's hubris incarnate.
It was also a stupid goal to define and it was even dumber to lead throungs of people in chanting it. One in his/her right might never declares what an independent other will do at one's behest.

That Trump seeks to obtain US tax dollars to pay for his wall is, however, indicative of his untrustworthiness. All he had to do at some point during his campaign was recant "Mexico's going to pay" and, in turn, reset his supporters' expectations by telling them that he was, in fact, not going to get Mexico to pay for the wall and that they, via their taxes, would be paying for it. In other words, tell the truth.

"Mexico's going to pay" and Trump's adoption of it as a campaign theme are dissemblances and palterings. As such, they are worse than simply lying.
 
marke said:
Trump does not get everything right but so what? Who does? Obama certainly didn't and Hillary didn't even come close.
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Yes he gets a fact, a place, a number wrong now and then. He engages in hyperbole now and then. As as is the case with many Type A extroverted people, he often thinks out loud--verbally or on Twitter or whatever--posing 'what if' questions or something he is thinking about or considering.

Intellectually honest people allow others such inconsequential errors of unimportant facts and go with what the speaker intends to say. Trump haters do not make such allowances. It isn't the point he is making they focus on, but rather the unimportant error in a number or some such that they blow into a monumental lie when it wasn't at all. Or they put his question or consideration out as specific policy along with their own twist that they put on everything he says to make it something they can attack but that he obviously never intended.

Almost all of the criticism of that sort of the President is made up out of whole cloth and it is done maliciously and viciously and they don't care who gets hurt.

They didn't do that to Obama or Hillary of course. But Obama and Hillary had the right letter after their names.
 
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