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    Re: The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    He really is that bad, but most people don’t want to think about it.
    True or not, hammering it home on the level the anti-Trump folks are doing is counter-productive to getting a better president in 2 years. I certainly have no love or trust for the guy and would not mind seeing him out of office. I just don't want to see us switch for someone just as bad out of desperation or see him keep office because the desperation ruined the election.
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    Re: The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    True or not, hammering it home on the level the anti-Trump folks are doing is counter-productive to getting a better president in 2 years. I certainly have no love or trust for the guy and would not mind seeing him out of office. I just don't want to see us switch for someone just as bad out of desperation or see him keep office because the desperation ruined the election.
    Not to worry, the man is the consummate con-man the greatest in all of history. Fortunately he's never been able to fool all the people any of the time. I know he fools 30 to 38 percent of the people all the time … or does he? Did they really vote for him or just against Hillary? We may find out someday … may be not.

    But to the point, why would anybody need to lie about trumps lies when he lies everyday at least 10 times a day? Anybody that thinks he doesn't is suffering from TDS (trump dream sickness) because you have to be dreaming to believe his horse****.
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    Re: The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Why would we need to lie and make up things when he gives us at least a half dozen examples a day of actual lies?

    Conservatives seem to hate the entire idea of holding the president accountable for what he says. They've become the defender of lies because partisanship outweighs even the truth.
    Now that's a good question.

    There is so much to report on about Trump, yet the anti-Trump echo chamber constantly makes **** up. They constantly cite unnamed sources who tell them stuff that ends up getting denied and is ultimately found out to be false or just fades away from memory...until it's needed. Then it's resurrected and repeated as if it's fact and it's used to support some new made up nonsense.

    So tell me...why do you need to lie and make things up?
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    Re: The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Now that's a good question.

    There is so much to report on about Trump, yet the anti-Trump echo chamber constantly makes **** up. They constantly cite unnamed sources who tell them stuff that ends up getting denied and is ultimately found out to be false or just fades away from memory...until it's needed. Then it's resurrected and repeated as if it's fact and it's used to support some new made up nonsense.

    So tell me...why do you need to lie and make things up?
    I don't lie about anything. Trump lies daily, and the majority of the stories with unnamed sources end up being later confirmed by the white house. How many times has Trump denied something vehemently and called it fake news just for it to come out a month later that it actually did happen. Why do you refuse to hold Trump accountable for his lies? You cherry pick some errors one news agency made while ignoring the torrent of lies from his own mouth. So far the media's record has been pretty good and they've been far more truthful than Trump.

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    Re: The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Do you think that the Left makes up any lies about Trump... trying to state that he lies, or is racist, etc.?
    I think he lies on a very regular basis.

    Yes, some people on the left make up (lie) crap about him. I would urge these folks to stop it.

    By the way, I think some people on the right lie about Trump as well. They lie to justify things he has said and done.

    I am always struck by Trump when he says "that's a lie" or "I never said that" when it is so easy to fact check.

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    Re: The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I don't lie about anything.
    Really? Never lie about anything?!?

    That's a pretty bold statement making you a paragon of virtue almost unique among members of humanity.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Trump lies daily, and the majority of the stories with unnamed sources end up being later confirmed by the white house.
    Hyperbole much? Please provide a comprehensive list of every single allegation made by "unnamed sources" denied by Trump delineating between still denied and those "later confirmation by the White House" so we can see this assertion is true.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    How many times has Trump denied something vehemently and called it fake news just for it to come out a month later that it actually did happen.
    More hyperbole. Again, please provide a complete list of such so we can see exactly how many times this has actually occurred in the past. BTW, for the sake of "honesty," how many news stories do you agree WERE fake news?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Why do you refuse to hold Trump accountable for his lies? You cherry pick some errors one news agency made while ignoring the torrent of lies from his own mouth. So far the media's record has been pretty good and they've been far more truthful than Trump.
    Very few people "refuse to hold Trump accountable for his lies." I certainly hold him as accountable as I have any other politician.

    The problem is discerning from the constant barrage of negative reporting which are actual lies (i.e. misinformation intentionally presented to deceive) and which are simple mistakes, misstatements, "fluffing," braggadocio, and yes even hyperbole like that which you have just presented as "truth."
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    Re: The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

    Quote Originally Posted by enderpotato00 View Post
    Stop it, you're making us conservatives look just as hypocritical as liberals.
    That’s true, conservatives are not just as hypocritical as liberals.

    They're a thousand times worse.
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    Re: The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

    Quote Originally Posted by MovingPictures View Post
    While one might be able to argue from ignorance that the man isn't a confirmed racist, there are no good arguments against Trump being a liar, precisely because he has told literally hundreds of crystal clear objective lies, and journalists have documented evidence establishing those statements as lies.

    He lied about his campaigns interactions with Russian nationals, he lied about the wall, he lied about releasing his tax returns, he lied about the payments to his mistresses, one could go on and on. It's also not just that he lies, but that he will tell bizzare and even sociopathic lies, such as his lying about donating to charities he's never given a dime to, or his lie about Time Magazine wanting to make him their person of the year.

    Hell, the guy claimed just a couple of days ago that he had been talking to former presidents about the wall, but all of them have gone on record as saying they haven't talked to him, which proves beyond any reasonable doubt that he's lying about it to the public.

    It really shouldn't need to be argued that this man lies compulsively and pathologically, given the frequency of the offenses, and how well documented they are, but apparently some people are so obsessed with hating "the establishment" they're willing to believe a clumsy reality TV bull****ter.
    Hell, he had a whole table of lies in that press conference.

    The "magazine" that was a brochure for a hotel.

    "Trump water", just his label on water he purchased from somebody else.

    "Trumps steaks", no longer sold, another label visible.

    "Trump wine" whose website says trump hold no ownership.

    NOTHING on that table was what he claimed it was.
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    Re: The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Now that's a good question.

    There is so much to report on about Trump, yet the anti-Trump echo chamber constantly makes **** up. They constantly cite unnamed sources who tell them stuff that ends up getting denied and is ultimately found out to be false or just fades away from memory...until it's needed. Then it's resurrected and repeated as if it's fact and it's used to support some new made up nonsense.

    So tell me...why do you need to lie and make things up?
    To compete in the new post-truth America, of course.
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    Re: The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Do you think that the Left makes up any lies about Trump... trying to state that he lies, or is racist, etc.?
    No proof?
    No references?
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