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Stop the Stupid Tucker Carlson Boycott

Geoist said:
Ummm, yes. Isn't it the pressure that is supposed to make a free market great? Pressure to lower prices, pressure to increase pay/benefits, pressure to provide a better product/service, etc.
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Possibly, though I doubt all of the people trying to pressure the company into doing what they want it to do are actually customers.

A boycott is more akin to a protest in this manner, which I'm still fine with. Though it's a far cry from what the actual free market could actually do when left to it's own design. The market naturally flows like a tide, both in and out. This is anything but natural, being more akin to an outside force trying to control a system in which it normally wouldn't have such power. This kind of power could also be used for more nefarious purposes and in some cases concerning the left that we've already seen. Where they use this power to attack individuals in the company, instead of the company itself. Trying to getting the individual fired, or outright destroy their livelihood in all respects.

Does that still sound like an actual "free" market?
Because it displays markers more akin to forced, outside attacks on the market, or similar numbers that we ran during our marketing courses in college.
 
I apologize for the lateness is reply, but I haven't really been on here in a while.
DarkWizard12 said:
I disagree.
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You're welcome to disagree. You'll just be wrong.
Kal'Stang said:
Bold: False dichotomy.
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No, it's not.

It's like saying that just because I own a 1 inch knife then banning all other arms is not a violation of our 2nd Amendment Rights because I am still technically "armed".
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Apples to oranges, good sir.

With your example, it is in regards to your ability to do something. With this example, it is in regards to a third party's ability to do something. Tucker Carlson is not entitled to advertiser money. He can't force them to support his product. Carlson is still free to say what he wants, but advertisers are free to not pay for it.

It's not a false dichotomy in the least.

As for the rest, you missed my point.
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No I didn't.

The notion that an advertiser is endorsing what is said on any given show is a falsehood.
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You claiming this is new is what is the falsehood. This has always been the case. Whether the advertiser is "endorsing" it or not in technicality doesn't change how it works in reality.

All they're doing is trying to advertise.
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To a specific market. Hip hop record labels aren't advertising on Fox News for a reason.

Oborosen said:
Free market at the point of a gun and it's perfectly fine... yeah..
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In what world do you live where advertisers choosing where to spend their money is the point of a gun? The only people here who seem to want to use the gun are those who seem to think it is okay to force advertisers to advertise on a product they do not support.

You are the one pointing the gun, not the advertisers.

But the moment a Christian baker doesn't' want to bake a cake themed for a gay wedding, people lose their **** and sue, send death threats and vandalize their property... yeah
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A) Don't support death threats and destruction of property and B) Completely different situation.

How about when no one wanted to hire Kaepernick and people started to lose their ****, demanding that he get hired onto a team.
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It depends entirely on why he wasn't hired. Personally, I wouldn't have hired him because he's not nearly a good enough quarterback to justify the media circus (Tim Tebow effect). But people thought he wasn't getting hired because he was black and making political statement and, if that was the real reason, then that would be wrong.

But, again, I don't think he's that good of a QB, so meh.

It sounds like people trying to force the free market, to do what they want it to do.

Doesn't really sound that free to me.
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What the hell do you think "free" means? Free market means people are free to choose what they support. That is exactly what is happening here.

It's like some of you think "free market" only applies when it is convenient for you.
 
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Oborosen said:
Possibly, though I doubt all of the people trying to pressure the company into doing what they want it to do are actually customers.

A boycott is more akin to a protest in this manner, which I'm still fine with. Though it's a far cry from what the actual free market could actually do when left to it's own design. The market naturally flows like a tide, both in and out. This is anything but natural, being more akin to an outside force trying to control a system in which it normally wouldn't have such power. This kind of power could also be used for more nefarious purposes and in some cases concerning the left that we've already seen. Where they use this power to attack individuals in the company, instead of the company itself. Trying to getting the individual fired, or outright destroy their livelihood in all respects.

Does that still sound like an actual "free" market?
Because it displays markers more akin to forced, outside attacks on the market, or similar numbers that we ran during our marketing courses in college.
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The people supporting these attacks on the 1st amendment and free market forces must be so delusional to think that they will never be the target of such nefarious attempts to shut them and their POVs down.
The level of naïveté is remarkable.
 
Acadia said:
The people supporting these attacks on the 1st amendment and free market forces must be so delusional to think that they will never be the target of such nefarious attempts to shut them and their POVs down.
The level of naïveté is remarkable.
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Lol, aren't you one of the pro-tarif guys? Get your backstory straight.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
 
Acadia said:
The people supporting these attacks on the 1st amendment and free market forces must be so delusional to think that they will never be the target of such nefarious attempts to shut them and their POVs down.
The level of naïveté is remarkable.
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To that I agree. Because it's only a matter of time when they themselves are victims of their own tactics.
 
Acadia said:
The people supporting these attacks on the 1st amendment and free market forces must be so delusional to think that they will never be the target of such nefarious attempts to shut them and their POVs down.
The level of naïveté is remarkable.
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Through their boycott they are exercising their first amendment rights of free speech. He has his right of free speech and the people opposing him have spoken too, with their voices and their wallets.
 
We need to boycott as much of Fox News as possible. Every show. Boycott them all. Shut the bastards down.


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Fox is the only news station that I've seen invite people with opposing viewpoints to come and talk. If I'm wrong please show me when msnbc not only stopped trashing the President, but invited Republicans on a regular basis to speak their minds.
 
Gotta ask, although it is probably overly obvious - is the obama quote to be sarcastic?
 
Nap said:
I never understood why these companies cave to these protesters. They are simply a loud minority, many of whom likely dont use the products or services they are boycotting in the first place. They can simply ignore them and the issue would go away without much, if any, blowback. In some circumstances they could even use it as a PR boost by coming out in defense of the person and likely drive up sales.
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Protesters are consumers, that's why companies listen to them. It's not about the politics. Like it or not, it's all about the EBIDA.
 
kayness said:
Fox is the only news station that I've seen invite people with opposing viewpoints to come and talk. If I'm wrong please show me when msnbc not only stopped trashing the President, but invited Republicans on a regular basis to speak their minds.
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This proves that you don't watch anything but Fox. Nearly every single day, Chris Cuomo inivtes a Republican on his 9:00 show. Likewise, Erin Burnett, Ana Cabrera, Brooke Baldwin, Don Lemon, etc.

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Why anybody ever watches that Fat Tucker to begin with is beyond me.
 
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