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CNN host: 'The biggest terror threat in this country is white men'

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CNN host Don Lemon is under fire after a disturbing, on-air rant in which he declared that “white men” are the biggest terror threat to the United States, noted that "there is no white-guy ban" and wondered aloud, "what do we do about that?"


“Cuomo Prime Time” namesake Chris Cuomo and Lemon were discussing the recent shooting of two black men in Kentucky that is being investigated as a hate crime when his Monday guest and colleague took the conversation off the rails.

“I keep trying to point out to people not to demonize any one group or any one ethnicity, but we keep thinking that the biggest terror threat is something else," Lemon said. "Some

“So we have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them.”
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Here's the epitome of what being leftist is. He's mainstream, and out there everyday. He hasn't been fired so CNN obviously think he's a fine man.
 
American said:
Here's the epitome of what being leftist is. He's mainstream, and out their everyday. He hasn't been fired so CNN obviously thinks he's a fine man.
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What he said was factually accurate in every measurable way. If you're murdered in any kind of mass shooting or terror attack the odds heavily favor it being carried out by a right-wing extremist and they are virtually all white guys. Even in the few cases where there was some left-wing violence, it was also carried out by a white man. There's a lot of black on black gang violence, but when it comes to mass terror attacks or political attacks it's virtually always a white Christian male.
 
Harshaw said:
Ha! "We have to stop demonizing people, or before I finish this sentence I'm going to demonize people!"
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Right, what he is saying is that we have to stop demonizing outsiders, foreigners, Muslims from other countries when the reality is that we are killing ourselves at a much higher clip than any outsiders.
 
MrWonka said:
Right, what he is saying is that we have to stop demonizing outsiders, foreigners, Muslims from other countries when the reality is that we are killing ourselves at a much higher clip than any outsiders.
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No. That is NOT what he said.
 
MrWonka said:
What he said was factually accurate in every measurable way. If you're murdered in any kind of mass shooting or terror attack the odds heavily favor it being carried out by a right-wing extremist and they are virtually all white guys. Even in the few cases where there was some left-wing violence, it was also carried out by a white man. There's a lot of black on black gang violence, but when it comes to mass terror attacks or political attacks it's virtually always a white Christian male.
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Proof please.
 
MrWonka said:
That is verbatim what he said. You're the one trying to twist it into something else.
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There is no way to twist what he said.

“So we have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them.”
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It's plain and direct. You're the one trying to spin what was said in order to support him.
 
Kal'Stang said:
There is no way to twist what he said.

It's plain and direct.
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Yes, he's saying stop demonizing people. As in outsiders. He's talking to white men here. It is white conservatives that want us to fear Mexicans, Muslims, Gay people, but the truth is that white Christian men from our own country are doing more of the killing, raping, terrorizing than any outside group is.
 
MrWonka said:
Pretty simple. Just look at a photograph of every mass shooter for the last 5-10 years. You've got google. Use it.
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So, you're not basing your theory on any facts. Just perception. No doubt perception based on what is in the major news media. While you ignore all the mass shootings that happen that don't make it into the major news media.
 
Kal'Stang said:
So, you're not basing your theory on any facts. Just perception. No doubt perception based on what is in the major news media. While you ignore all the mass shootings that happen that don't make it into the major news media.
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No, he's basing it on the stone-cold fact that white males are by far the no. 1 demographic for mass* murderers.

Based on the currently accepted (but somewhat arbitrary) criterion by the DoJ of 4 or more victims. Robert Bowers should still qualify even if he "only" killed two people because he first tried to enter a black church full of people and would certainly have had a bigger toll if he'd been able to get inside.
 
Kal'Stang said:
So, you're not basing your theory on any facts. Just perception. No doubt perception based on what is in the major news media. While you ignore all the mass shootings that happen that don't make it into the major news media.
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Same challenge to you - prove the statement wrong with statistics.
 
Kal'Stang said:
So, you're not basing your theory on any facts.
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Photographs contain facts. If you look at all of them and take all the pictures of mass shooters and terrorists in this country over the last 5-10 years. Add up all the pictures that contain a white man, and then divide it by the total number of photographs you'll get a number that is above 80%.

White men only make up about 35% of the population, yet they make up roughly 80% of mass murderers. When you add in sexual assault it's even worse. African Americans certainly commit their share of crime, but it is generally gang violence caused by poverty and the war on drugs. When it comes to outright violence caused by pure hatred of other groups of people it's virtually all white men doing the deed.

Kal'Stang said:
While you ignore all the mass shootings that happen that don't make it into the major news media.
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There is no such thing. There has not been one single solitary mass shooting in the United States of America that was not reported on my major news media.
 
MrWonka said:
Yes, he's saying stop demonizing people. As in outsiders. He's talking to white men here. It is white conservatives that want us to fear Mexicans, Muslims, Gay people, but the truth is that white Christian men from our own country are doing more of the killing, raping, terrorizing than any outside group is.
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I keep trying to point out to people not to demonize any one group or any one ethnicity, but we keep thinking that the biggest terror threat is something else. Some people who are marching towards the border like it’s eminent. And the last time they did this, a couple of hundred people came and they, you know, most of them didn’t get into the country. Most of them got tuckered out before they even made it to the border. So we have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is black men, most of them radicalized to the left, and we have to start doing something about them.”

Sure sounds racist and demonizing to me. What do you think?
 
Okay, here is the real problem... and it means being critical of Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo but also being critical of the outrage over how they said what they said.

I cannot recall off the top off my head who actually did the study, but around middle last year a report came out tracking "domestic terror" incidents over the prior 10 years as a response to something Trump said during the whole Travel Ban debates at the time about who we are in danger from.

The report said something to the effect of "nearly twice as many terrorist incidents by right-wing extremists of whom the majority are white males than by Islamic extremists" over the period of the study. I forget the exact dates they covered.

I tend to not like group vilification either but think the point that Lemon and Cuomo were terrible in making is Trump today is saying out threat are those trying to enter the country illegally (a reference to the caravan headed this way though Mexico) when it turns out recent events keep up the realization that those doing these acts of domestic terror tend to be white males, tend to lean right, and tend to consider themselves Christian.

So when we talk about "Muslim Bans" (Lemon comment) I suspect he really means Travel Bans impacting predominately Muslims, or "demonizing people" (another Lemon comment) I suspect he is referring to those in the caravan... but Lemon then rather stupidly vilified right leaning, christian, white men. Statistically Lemon is right, but the delivery of the message was terrible and it will mean we end up talking about what is said instead of looking at why our biggest threat today of terror domestically is not Muslims but homegrown.

There is not a great answer here as we end up race baiting if we continue the line of conversation between Lemon and Cuomo (who did not disagree with Lemon.)

However we do have an issue. Between recent events and going back a decade (give or take a year) we seem to have a source of domestic terror that is not imported.
 
MrWonka said:
Photographs contain facts. If you look at all of them and take all the pictures of mass shooters and terrorists in this country over the last 5-10 years. Add up all the pictures that contain a white man, and then divide it by the total number of photographs you'll get a number that is above 80%.

White men only make up about 35% of the population, yet they make up roughly 80% of mass murderers. When you add in sexual assault it's even worse. African Americans certainly commit their share of crime, but it is generally gang violence caused by poverty and the war on drugs. When it comes to outright violence caused by pure hatred of other groups of people it's virtually all white men doing the deed.


There is no such thing. There has not been one single solitary mass shooting in the United States of America that was not reported on my major news media.
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White males make up 35% of the population. The entire population isn't likely to do any shooting. The children won't. The female adults extremely rare.

What percentage of total males of age are 'White Males' ?
 
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