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CNN host: 'The biggest terror threat in this country is white men'

MrWonka said:
What he said was factually accurate in every measurable way. If you're murdered in any kind of mass shooting or terror attack the odds heavily favor it being carried out by a right-wing extremist and they are virtually all white guys. Even in the few cases where there was some left-wing violence, it was also carried out by a white man. There's a lot of black on black gang violence, but when it comes to mass terror attacks or political attacks it's virtually always a white Christian male.
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Winston said:
That is just about terrorism. The data shows right wing terrorism is America's #1 threat. So, the comments in the OP are accurate, if intentionally divisive.
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Are you trying to move the goal posts or just use selected info?
 
American said:
Okay so Lemon thinks this is a domestic issue. Let's look at that.

According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008
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These are largely gang-related and poverty-related crimes. They are not terrorist attacks. They are not mass shootings. If you live in the roughest parts of some inner cities or you join a gang you have to worry about that stuff sure, but when it comes to school shootings. Political attacks. Terrorist attacks... virtually all white guys.
 
American said:
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainme...te-men-are-biggest-terror-threat-to-americans


Here's the epitome of what being leftist is. He's mainstream, and out there everyday. He hasn't been fired so CNN obviously think he's a fine man.
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I don't know which is worse:

1. Lemon is comfortable spouting totally incorrect nonsense.

2. Lemon makes a totally racist statement.

3. Cuomo agrees with him.

4. They both still have a job at CNN.

5. The Trump haters don't object to this stuff.
 
lurchadams said:
What in g'ds green earth are you talking about? What mass shooting in recent history has gone "unreported"?
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Read what I said again and stop putting words into my mouth. I didn't say "gone unreported". I said mass shootings that don't make it into the major news media. Most don't.
 
https://bsos.umd.edu/featured-content/proportion-terrorist-attacks

In comparison to the 2000s, there was a sharp decline in the proportion of terrorist attacks carried out by left-wing, environmentalist extremists during the first seven years of the 2010s (from 64% to 12%). At the same time, there was a sharp increase in the proportion of attacks carried out by right-wing extremists (from 6% to 35%) and religious extremists (from 9% to 53%) in the United States.
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MrWonka said:
These are largely gang-related and poverty-related crimes. They are not terrorist attacks. They are not mass shootings. If you live in the roughest parts of some inner cities or you join a gang you have to worry about that stuff sure, but when it comes to school shootings. Political attacks. Terrorist attacks... virtually all white guys.
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Who do you think is coming to the border?
 
Kal'Stang said:
Read what I said again and stop putting words into my mouth. I didn't say "gone unreported". I said mass shootings that don't make it into the major news media. Most don't.
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Ok, what mass shooting in recent history has not made it to the major news media?
 
MrWonka said:
These are largely gang-related and poverty-related crimes. They are not terrorist attacks. They are not mass shootings. If you live in the roughest parts of some inner cities or you join a gang you have to worry about that stuff sure, but when it comes to school shootings. Political attacks. Terrorist attacks... virtually all white guys.
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So, you're not moving the goal posts. Got it. We're done here I think. If you can't be honest enough to stick to your original claim then you're not worth debating.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Are you trying to move the goal posts or just use the selected info?
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Neither. The discussion isn't about general crime. It's about terrorism. It's about random acts of violence and terror carried out against innocent groups of people. You're freaking about immigrants and asylum seekers, but it's white Christian men born right here in America that is the most likely to kill you out of the blue.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Are you trying to move the goal posts or just use selected info?
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I thought you wanted proof for the OP, not some other off-topic debate.
 
American said:
Who do you think is coming to the border?
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Immigrant Asylum seekers trying to escape violence and poverty. They aren't bringing the violence they're trying to escape it too.
 
American said:
"by political extremist"...................... you didn't chose this to pad your numbers did you? :lol:
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Just look at the data and it shows that Right Wing Terror is more than Left Wing and Islamic combined in recent years.
 
American said:
I don't need to, bud. He'll pay for that remark.
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hehe..he'll pay for it, huh. That's sounds a little spooky. Just keep your pipe bombs in your prepper bunker, k? ;)
 
joko104 said:
Statistics prove them wrong. Just 9-11 by itself proves them wrong.

As a percentage to their race or religion, the most likely terrorists, the most likely murderers and the most likely mass murderers all are NOT white. The highest percentage of terrorist deaths in the USA - and the highest number total - has been by Muslims - none of which were white.

While blacks are only 12% of the population, they account for nearly half of all murders.

Statistics and facts prove Don Lemon is a liar - and he knows it.
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Clue. He's not the liar. On the actual day of 911, you may be correct, but the ongoing day to day terror threat to life in the USA comes overwhemlingly from the far right, not a place inhabited by many non-whites.
 
Kal'Stang said:
If your link is wrong about the number of mass shootings in the US then anything else that they attempt to show is invalid.

There have been 297 mass shootings in the US so far in 2018 — here's the full list

And that is just for 2018. Your source is attempting to count between 1982 to 2018. Looks to me like your source is seriously lacking in data.
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The government also doesn't have an official definition. In 2013, a report from the Congressional Research Service, known as Congress's think tank, described mass shootings like those in which shooters "select victims somewhat indiscriminately" and kill four or more people — a higher bar than Gun Violence Archive's, as it doesn't take injuries into account.
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These aren't mass shootings. Most are not indiscriminate and don't kill 4 or more people. The key here is the indiscriminate nature of it. We're not talking about a husband who goes crazy and murders his family. That's a tragedy, but it's not a terrorist attack.
 
Kal'Stang said:
If your link is wrong about the number of mass shootings in the US then anything else that they attempt to show is invalid.

There have been 297 mass shootings in the US so far in 2018 — here's the full list

And that is just for 2018. Your source is attempting to count between 1982 to 2018. Looks to me like your source is seriously lacking in data.
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That would depend on not only their data, but also from whatever definition they're using.

From your own link: "There is no broadly accepted definition of a mass shooting. Gun Violence Archive defines a mass shooting as a single incident in which four or more people, not including the shooter, are "shot and/or killed" at "the same general time and location."

The government also doesn't have an official definition. In 2013, a report from the Congressional Research Service, known as Congress's think tank, described mass shootings as those in which shooters "select victims somewhat indiscriminately" and kill four or more people — a higher bar than Gun Violence Archive's, as it doesn't take injuries into account. "
 
Kal'Stang said:
When was the last time any of the big 5 media mention chicago's mass shootings?
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Ok, send me your inforwars link to one of these "chicago mass shootings" and I promise to check it out.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Proof for the OP? You mean proof for what Don Lemon said? Where did he talk about mass shootings?
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He talked about terrorism, no? I can't remember with all the wiggling around. Bottom line is in this moment, right winger terror is on the rise. If Islamic terror were on the rise, we would hear nothing but the sky is falling. Why aren't the conservatives in power principled enough to treat all acts of terror equally?
 
MrWonka said:
Yes, he's referring to outside groups of people. He's referring to this caravan of immigrants you've got your panties in a twist about. They're not the threat.


It is primarily white people, and the lion share of the mass hate based killings are being carried out by white men. That is exactly what he's saying and you know it.
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OK, you actually think he thinks of "America" as "white men." "Verbatim," indeed.
 
joko104 said:
Outsiders coming to our country are our problem.
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Not really. They're coming here because they like our country the way it is. They're trying to escape violence not trying to create it.

joko104 said:
So you admire those young men abandoning their children, wives, sisters, mothers, parents and grandparents
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Not even trying to be honest today huh?
 
Harshaw said:
OK, you actually think he thinks of "America" as "white men." "Verbatim," indeed.
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It is a country controlled almost entirely by white Christian men. Yet they fear everyone else when it is largely them that is to be truly feared the most.
 
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