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Fox News disables comments for all YouTube videos about McCain’s death after followers ruthlessly sm

Remember how many years Republicans danced on the graves of the Benghazi Four, and now Mollie Tibbetts, but not the 5,000 in Iraq.

eohrnberger said:
Meh. It's a link to an article that substantiates that assertion by the author, if you care to read it.

If it is classless to speak ill of the dead, wouldn't be equally classless to use the death of someone to attack someone else?

Celebrities Use John McCain’s Death to Trash President Donald Trump

Would seem to be to me, especially when all Trump did was express condolences, which would be quite appropriate.

Which raises the question: Who's being inappropriate in this instance?
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Logician Man said:
Looks like all opinions...especially the last one. The only people I've seen hating on McCain here are from the right. ( see McCain thread for verification)
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Sorry, I have to defend eohrnberger on this one. I don't agree with much of anything he posts, but I believe that he is being sincere here. In fact, there are MANY Republicans who can't stand people smearing John McCain, even people in their own party doing it.
 
danarhea said:
Sorry, I have to defend eohrnberger on this one. I don't agree with much of anything he posts, but I believe that he is being sincere here. In fact, there are MANY Republicans who can't stand people smearing John McCain, even people in their own party doing it.
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No apology necessary.I too agree he was being sincere,There were 2 points of contention.1) the fact he didn't qualify 'military service' when serving the nation, which was addressed and clarified,and 2) the 3 areas of his 'signature.' We both agreed the discourse was civil,shook hands when discourse ceased,and wished each other well.We need much more of this type of civil discourse IMHO. He and I found some common ground.I consider that to be a good thing.
 
I went over to Townhall.com yesterday to see the reactions. It was disgraceful. The right wing is a cult, anyone who strays is exiled. It is a sad day indeed when socalled conservatives besmirch the honor and character of John McCain. It says more about them then they care to admit.
 
Moot said:
What the author in your sig went through doesn't even begin to compare to what the Sandy Hook families have been going through.

Did Trump personally call the parents of Mollie Tibbits to give his condolences? Or did he (and FoxNews) start using her murder as political fodder the first chance he got?

Would seem to me, he did the later.

To answer your question: Trump doesn't know how to be appropriate.
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That'd be exactly the same as the political hay the left tries to make after each school shooting before the bodies are even cold. But I suppose that IS appropriate in your book.

Nothing on the badly behaving celebrities? Oh of course not.

Meh. Perhaps my expectations were too high.
 
I have no doubt that McCain had honor and character in his Naval career.

His legislative career is far more, shall we say 'colored'.

Judicial Watch Obtains IRS Documents Revealing McCain's ...
https://www.judicialwatch.org/.../judicial-watch-obtains-irs-documents-revealing-mcca...
Jun 21, 2018 - McCain minority staff director Henry Kerner to IRS official Lois Lerner ... “The ObamaIRS scandal is bipartisan – McCain and Democrats who ...

McCain's office urged IRS to use audits as weapons to destroy political ...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/.../mccains-office-urged-irs-use-audits-weapons-des...
Jun 22, 2018 - John McCain's office to urge the IRS under Lois Lerner to strike out against political advocacy groups, including tea party organizations.

Report: McCain Staffer Urged IRS To Conduct ... - The Federalist
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Jun 22, 2018 - An IRS employee's version of a meeting with Lois Lerner says a top staffer for Sen. ... John McCain urged Internal Revenue Service officials to conduct ... The Trump sex payoff scandallooks just like 1998, except that the two ...

McCain Staffer Urged IRS to Target Conservative Groups with Audits ...
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Jun 24, 2018 - “The Obama IRS scandal is bipartisan — McCain and Democrats who wanted to regulate political speech lost at the Supreme Court, so they ...

McCain Office Involved In IRS Targeting Scandal; Pushed "Financially ...
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Jun 22, 2018 - Internal IRS documents obtained by Judicial Watch through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) reveal that in 2013, John McCain's former ...
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I strongly disagree that the IRS, a federal government agency, be used as a political weapon. That's not its intended purpose.
 
eohrnberger said:
That'd be exactly the same as the political hay the left tries to make after each school shooting before the bodies are even cold. But I suppose that IS appropriate in your book.

Nothing on the badly behaving celebrities? Oh of course not.

Meh. Perhaps my expectations were too high.
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Not the same. The Left doesn't have anything even remotely comparable to what Alex Jones and his minions have done to mass shooting victims and their families. The right just doesn't have respect or empathy for anything or anyone, anymore.

Meh, yourself.
 
JMR said:
I just did go read the comments at the NYTs, and they were generally respectful, and in some cases highly so.
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You have to go to the user comments. NYT has 3 sections, 1st and the default one is the NYT staff picked comments, which are the hand picked best comments by the staff which is probably what you saw, then the 2nd section is user upvoted comments and then the last one is the user unfiltered comments
 
Moot said:
Not the same. The Left doesn't have anything even remotely comparable to what Alex Jones and his minions have done to mass shooting victims and their families. The right just doesn't have respect or empathy for anything or anyone, anymore.

Meh, yourself.
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No, the left have their favored confused AntiFa thugs who use fascist tactics claiming to not be fascists. I guess they much be confused.

No, they have a whole raft of badly behaving and extremist Hollyweird Celebutards holding up severed heads, and any number of other poor examples of behavior.

Sorry, but no. The left is the side that more heavily traffics in hate. Always has and probably always will.
 
Crovax said:
You have to go to the user comments. NYT has 3 sections, 1st and the default one is the NYT staff picked comments, which are the hand picked best comments by the staff which is probably what you saw, then the 2nd section is user upvoted comments and then the last one is the user unfiltered comments
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Please spare me the instructions, I've been reading and contributing to the NYT comments for years. Even the "all" comment sections are respectful, even from those who did not agree or particularly admire John McCain. I suppose there might be a bad comment buried in among the 1500 or so there, but certainly not anything that would lead to the comments to be banned.
 
I give them half a pass....McCain was a very controversial man...Policing comments to modern New Dark Age standards would be a huge time/money suck.
 
Crovax said:
Literally none of that is true. You cant even use basic logic. The Fox News comment section is gone so I have never seen any of the Fox News comments, being a NYT subscriber I can see the comments there and they are pretty repugnant. So I can only say probably because I never saw the Fox comments

You couldnt even bother to take the 5 seconds to hash that out in your mind because you would rather attack a poster then try to figure out an actual argument.
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I'd like to see some examples of this.

The NYT has one of the most moderated and civil comment sections I've seen anywhere. In fact, I find the comment quality to be very high in terms of education, knowledgeability, and civility.
 
Mr Person said:
:lamo

What a stupid, dishonest, and did I say stupid, lie.




First of all, no they are not "repugnant" nor anything like it. (Anyone can check here: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/25/...uth=login-email&login=email#commentsContainer)

Second, you don't need to be a subscriber to see comments on NYT.

Third, and this might be the most hilarious part of how stupid your lie is, NYT pre-approves comments, so no, they do not let through the kind of repugnant comment that lead Fox to shut down its comments sections.

When you submit a comment, you get a message reading "Thank you for your submission. It will appear once it it is approved".




(Oh, and PS, I've actually seen plenty of Fox comments sections, which is a fourth if minor reason why your lie is so idiotic).

Oh, wait, and fifth, I didn't attack a "poster". I criticized the pathetic whattaboutism you felt the need to throw out there. If anyone attacked a "poster", it was you, when you typed this further swill:






So to recap, in the future you should (A) not tell such retarded and instantly disprovable lies, (B) not tell such retarded and instantly disprovable lies.
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Well done. :thumbs:

I have no idea what this poster was smoking!
 
eohrnberger said:
The signature:


Elect a Democrat, get a corrupt and ever more intrusive FBI, DOJ, IRS . . . . .
A true statement, as we have come to learn how Obama weaponized the FBI, DOJ and IRS as well as the intelligence agencies and other agencies political enemies, if not against the electorate as a whole.

Trump / Russian Collusion? 'All the crimes are on the part of the government"
Pretty clear in the setup of some in the Trump campaign with multiple baiting of 'dirty on Hillary', as well as the multiple paths the Steele Dossier being injected into those government agencies even after the FBI had concluded that Steele was as 'unsuitable source' of intelligence and information, as the basis for a FISA warrant as well as it's extension 4 times, not to mention the questionable decisions, actions and charges that have been taken by the Mueller investigation (what sense is it that someone pleads guilty to a non-crime, or a crime they didn't commit?)

When It Comes To Hate, The Left Beats The Right, Hands Down
That article, like your post,

None of which have any intended connection to the smearing of McCain by Internet trolls / idiots, nor that everyone should have some respect for the dead and their family who are presently suffering from the departed's loss.

Smearing someone who served the country is uncalled for.
Smearing the dearly departed is uncalled for.

Where's the my signature betray my post? You are going to have to elaborate your thinking on this.
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That article, like your post, has zero quantifiable evidence supporting the premise, and only anecdotal assertions.
 
danarhea said:
Thank you, FOX News. You have just shown yourself to be classier than many of those who watch your network.

Fox News disables comments for all YouTube videos about McCain's death after followers ruthlessly smear him
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Its sad that things have come to this. Personally I found McCain to be a good man and a great patriot. May he rest in peace. I think his soul deserves it.

However...I am forced to believe allot of the mud-slinging is a direct result of all the mud-slinging the far left does...on a ****ing daily basis.
 
Buzz62 said:
Its sad that things have come to this. Personally I found McCain to be a good man and a great patriot. May he rest in peace. I think his soul deserves it.

However...I am forced to believe allot of the mud-slinging is a direct result of all the mud-slinging the far left does...on a ****ing daily basis.
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Fair enough. It isn't just Republicans dividing the country, so you are making a good point.
 
JMR said:
I just did go read the comments at the NYTs, and they were generally respectful, and in some cases highly so.
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Crovax said:
You have to go to the user comments. NYT has 3 sections, 1st and the default one is the NYT staff picked comments, which are the hand picked best comments by the staff which is probably what you saw, then the 2nd section is user upvoted comments and then the last one is the user unfiltered comments
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Why were you telling more lies yesterday? I already explained this to you.


Mr Person said:
Crovax said:
Literally none of that is true. You cant even use basic logic. The Fox News comment section is gone so I have never seen any of the Fox News comments, being a NYT subscriber I can see the comments there and they are pretty repugnant. So I can only say probably because I never saw the Fox comments

You couldnt even bother to take the 5 seconds to hash that out in your mind because you would rather attack a poster then try to figure out an actual argument.
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:lamo

What a stupid, dishonest, and did I say stupid, lie.




First of all, no they are not "repugnant" nor anything like it. (Anyone can check here: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/25/...uth=login-email&login=email#commentsContainer)

Second, you don't need to be a subscriber to see comments on NYT.

Third, and this might be the most hilarious part of how stupid your lie is, NYT pre-approves comments, so no, they do not let through the kind of repugnant comment that lead Fox to shut down its comments sections.

When you submit a comment, you get a message reading "Thank you for your submission. It will appear once it it is approved".




(Oh, and PS, I've actually seen plenty of Fox comments sections, which is a fourth if minor reason why your lie is so idiotic).

Oh, wait, and fifth, I didn't attack a "poster". I criticized the pathetic whattaboutism you felt the need to throw out there. If anyone attacked a "poster", it was you, when you typed this further swill:

Crovax said:
your partisan hackery
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So to recap, in the future you should (A) not tell such retarded and instantly disprovable lies, (B) not tell such retarded and instantly disprovable lies.
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You didn't respond to that in an attempt to prove me wrong.

You ran away.

You ran away, then slinked back later to keep repeating your lies. You even added a new lie: that there are "unfiltered" comments. There aren't. There are NYT Picks, Reader Picks (heavily upvoted), and "All" - each and every one of these goes through the procedure I explained to you, which you are now lying about yet again.



Why would you do something so pathetic, so blatant, so dishonest?
 
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Chomsky said:
That article, like your post, has zero quantifiable evidence supporting the premise, and only anecdotal assertions.
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Well, I suppose that we could go off track of the thread and go on about sigs, but I stand by my earlier post:

None of which have any intended connection to the smearing of McCain by Internet trolls / idiots, nor that everyone should have some respect for the dead and their family who are presently suffering from the departed's loss.

Smearing someone who served the country is uncalled for.
Smearing the dearly departed is uncalled for.

Where's the my signature betray my post? You are going to have to elaborate your thinking on this.
 
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