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Katrina Pierson's explanations of the alleged 'n-word' tape make no sense

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/politics/katrina-pierson-donald-trump-omarosa/index.html

"Which, if you're keeping score at home, is not the same thing as saying that Trump definitively never used the "n-word" but rather that a call ever happened in which it was verified that Luntz (or anyone else) had heard Trump say the word on a tape that Trump insists doesn't exist."

It's true that this story is biased against Trump and hand-picked so as to damage him. However, the larger story is that it seems racism is defined by which words we use to refer to certain races. I've never used "the N word", yet live in a 97% white town. There are lots of Hispanics and blacks 3 miles away in a neighboring city.

As long as I avoid PC-incorrect terms, I'm not called out for segregating myself. The left has made this pretty easy for me.
 
Don’t people generally “segregate” themselves economically, rather than racially?
 
Kobie said:
Don’t people generally “segregate” themselves economically, rather than racially?
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Generally yes, but some races are 'disadvantaged' in income and crime, and thus are overly represented as far as whites choosing to move away from them. The net effect is racial segregation, no N-word required.
 
Rickeroo said:
Generally yes, but some races are 'disadvantaged' in income and crime, and thus are overly represented as far as whites choosing to move away from them. The net effect is racial segregation, no N-word required.
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You bring up a very good point, but I have to wonder how this is a "Left" thing (referring to where you said "The left has made this pretty easy for me."), and not just a "rich white" thing...? Also, is the act of moving to an area that caters to a more wealthy crowd an act of racism on it's own, or is it simply buying what you can afford? I mean, if you're serious about consciously segregating yourself, then I'd say those were racist motivations to move...but is one racist simply because they can't find the million dollar home they want to buy in a poor neighborhood that happens to have a lot of black folks living there?

Not necessarily arguing with you, just trying to understand a little more where you're coming from.
 
OlNate said:
You bring up a very good point, but I have to wonder how this is a "Left" thing (referring to where you said "The left has made this pretty easy for me."), and not just a "rich white" thing...? Also, is the act of moving to an area that caters to a more wealthy crowd an act of racism on it's own, or is it simply buying what you can afford? I mean, if you're serious about consciously segregating yourself, then I'd say those were racist motivations to move...but is one racist simply because they can't find the million dollar home they want to buy in a poor neighborhood that happens to have a lot of black folks living there?

Not necessarily arguing with you, just trying to understand a little more where you're coming from.
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I'll gladly clarify. Personally, I apply the same standards to a neighborhood regardless of who lives there: I chose not to live with bad schools, gun violence, robberies, and drugs / meth. If my avoidance of those things happen to take me away from certain races, then I would be unintentionally segregating myself from those races. In effect, the left is allowing me to apply the same standards to both whites and blacks, to judge their living standards on an empirical level, and to pronounce their living standards as below mine. Whites and blacks judged equally based on their behavior and not race.

With the N-word, it's a diversionary and superficial tactic used by the press, though the press just delivers what the people want anyway - we are ripe for division. I liken it to the furor over the Redskins. People are upset over the name, yet have no issue with federally segregating Indians based on genetics. I think we may focus on the Redskins and the N-word primarily because the real issues are uncomfortable.
 
Rickeroo said:
I'll gladly clarify. Personally, I apply the same standards to a neighborhood regardless of who lives there: I chose not to live with bad schools, gun violence, robberies, and drugs / meth. If my avoidance of those things happen to take me away from certain races, then I would be unintentionally segregating myself from those races. In effect, the left is allowing me to apply the same standards to both whites and blacks, to judge their living standards on an empirical level, and to pronounce their living standards as below mine. Whites and blacks judged equally based on their behavior and not race.

With the N-word, it's a diversionary and superficial tactic used by the press, though the press just delivers what the people want anyway - we are ripe for division. I liken it to the furor over the Redskins. People are upset over the name, yet have no issue with federally segregating Indians based on genetics. I think we may focus on the Redskins and the N-word primarily because the real issues are uncomfortable.
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I think people as a general rule will always want to improve their living conditions if they have the financial means to do so, and in that process we find ourselves making decisions based on the various environments different class levels offer. When my wife and I shopped around for a place to live many of the criteria you cited were ones we focused on. While my wife grew up in the suburbs, I did so in NYC in a bad neighborhood during the city's not so good days. I wanted to be somewhere that would be an improvement from what I had known, but didn't want to be in a non racially diverse area either; NYC's diversity was a good experience for me and I want my daughter to have the same but without the crime and poverty.
 
Rickeroo said:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/politics/katrina-pierson-donald-trump-omarosa/index.html

"Which, if you're keeping score at home, is not the same thing as saying that Trump definitively never used the "n-word" but rather that a call ever happened in which it was verified that Luntz (or anyone else) had heard Trump say the word on a tape that Trump insists doesn't exist."

It's true that this story is biased against Trump and hand-picked so as to damage him. However, the larger story is that it seems racism is defined by which words we use to refer to certain races. I've never used "the N word", yet live in a 97% white town. There are lots of Hispanics and blacks 3 miles away in a neighboring city.

As long as I avoid PC-incorrect terms, I'm not called out for segregating myself. The left has made this pretty easy for me.
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This is why people are walking away from the Democratic party. This constant barrage of racially-charged fake outrage proves nothing more than the fake news media and swampy politicians couldn't give a crap about Americans and making their lives better.
 
I love the "verified by luntz" bit.


The same people who suddenly started pretending that journalists have used "anonymous sources" forever and in fact have to to find out about corruption have no problem taking a Republican messaging man with a massive motive to say things to protect the Republican president at his word.

Especially when people say things in private they'd deny in public.




You ought to wait for the tapes, and see how much of what this Omorosa woman claims is backed up by the tapes.
 
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