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Senator: Trump colluded with Putin deliberately

TurtleDude said:
The TDS crowd engages in a Pavlovian rant about Trump no matter what he does but they have been unable to tell us why Russia is better off with Trump and a pro military, pro well armed America over Hillary with an anti military, disarmed population in place
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Gee...maybe because he goes in front of the world and defends Russia at the expense of our intelligence agencies? I think having a dupe like that would be pretty beneficial.
 
Here is what collusion actually looks/sounds like (verbatim):


Obama: This is my last election…After my election I have more flexibility.

Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.

Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it's important for him to give me space.

Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you...

Obama: This is my last election… After my election I have more flexibility.

Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.
 
Oh fer chrissakes.
 
cuban smokes said:
for Trump to throw the US intelligence services under the bus & to blame the US for Russia's ****ty aggressions & unacceptable behavior

oh, wait ..............
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Well, there is 144 million more Russians Mueller can indict. Talk about boosting his stats!
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
I don't think Trump's bending over for Putin is because of a Pee tape, it's got to be something worse. I have no idea what, but it's obvious Trump's base and the hypocritical religious right wouldn't care about Trump being a sexual deviant.

No, Putin has something on Trump that even most of his brainwashed cult base would abandon him over. There has to be some 'line' that if Trump crosses his base would say 'enough'. IDK, but it's obvious after this week of Trump's embarrassing and treacherous performance in Europe and his supporters are still defending and supporting him that a pee tape isn't enough to break the spell.
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Money laundering seems a good guess. As for his cult, they'll do the usual cycle, ending up at "so what" as they always do.
 
WCH said:
This could be a good thing. In America we have the right to face our accusers.
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Putin's offer was disingenuous because Russian intelligence doesn't have a right to interrogate our intelligence services about how they got the information on Russian hackers.

Yes, those accused in the Mueller indictment have a right to face their accusers -- in a court of law. So, unless they are going to surrender to American authorities, they have no special rights.

The fact that you take the Russian attacker's side says much about your loyalty. Did you also defend Osama bin Laden?
 
hanger4 said:
I think the public demanding of extradition of those indicted Russians, especially the GRU agents.

The discovery portion of the trial/s would be interesting.
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Mueller would **** himself if he had to actually try these dudes.
 
hanger4 said:
True dat,, which is why, IMO Mueller indicted these Rusaians knowing they'll never stand trial plus right before the Helsinki meeting, it's Team Mueller PR.
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Mueller set the treason trap. The Russian military hacked the U.S. and disrupted the election. That means that a state of hostility (war) exists between Russia and the U.S. As such, giving 'aid and comfort' to Russia is treason. IMO Trump gave aid and comfort yesterday.
 
WCH said:
Yea, "oh wait".... exactly what I thought.

How about a deal on nonproliferation of nuclear weapons? How about a Syria resolution? How about some sort of agreement that didn't involve MAD?

Naw, y'all just wanted another talking point.
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Your support of a traitor is noted.
 
hanger4 said:
I think the public demanding of extradition of those indicted Russians, especially the GRU agents.

The discovery portion of the trial/s would be interesting.
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And when Russia indicts our spies and wants them extradited to Russia to stand trial are we going to turn them over? You people need to grow up.
 
TurtleDude said:
The TDS crowd engages in a Pavlovian rant about Trump no matter what he does but they have been unable to tell us why Russia is better off with Trump and a pro military, pro well armed America over Hillary with an anti military, disarmed population in place
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Nice rant, irrelevant concerning my post, but nice.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
And when Russia indicts our spies and wants them extradited to Russia to stand trial are we going to turn them over?
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Sealed indictments until one or all these GRU agents were somewhere they could be detained and or extradited would have been more in tune with justice, assuming that's what's actually desired.
 
apdst said:
He's afraid to prove his case in court, where the public can see.
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There's nothing in his background that says he might be ruled by fear. To the contrary, he's shown himself to be pretty immune to fear.
This is just wishful thinking on your part.
 
Grand Mal said:
There's nothing in his background that says he might be ruled by fear. To the contrary, he's shown himself to be pretty immune to fear.
This is just wishful thinking on your part.
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Kiss his ass all you want, but he's glad he'll never have to prove his case.
 
apdst said:
Kiss his ass all you want, but he's glad he'll never have to prove his case.
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You too. You can beak off all you want about him and never have to back up a word of it, so have at it.
 
Grand Mal said:
You too. You can beak off all you want about him and never have to back up a word of it, so have at it.
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Has Mueller made his evidence public? He hasn't? Why not?
 
cuban smokes said:
for Trump to throw the US intelligence services under the bus & to blame the US for Russia's ****ty aggressions & unacceptable behavior

oh, wait ..............
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Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr & especially Brennan as top guns of our US justice
system are not the type to 'erect a cathedral' around because of there continual embarrassing
evaluations.

Many of Putin actions that we condemn were reactions to what we did.

It was U.S. complicity in the Kiev coup that ousted the elected pro-Russian regime that caused Putin to
seize Crimea to hold onto Russia’s Black Sea naval base at Sevastopol?
 
haymarket said:
Putin announcing he is permanently recalling his loyal agent Trump to Moscow, Trump resigns and vacates the office sending the plane home without him.
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At your age you will be the saddest of them all when that doesn't happen.
 
notquiteright said:
We're passed that stage, they have been indicted, now they can come over and face their accusers in a court of law. Mueller doesn't need to interview the GRU agents, he apparently has enough evidence to indict. Like Trump says you don't need a 'Perry Mason' type confession to try someone for a crime...

Nice try though... :peace
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I believe Mueller indicted them to distract from the fact he has nothing and hopes the info they have is never let loose. They may have the goods on Obama, Hillary etc.
 
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