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Trump's Anti-Media Agenda is Imploding

I never really thought the meddling thing could go as high as Trump, and didn't really think it would hit inside his campaign either. I thought that Mueller would likely find some dirt though, like campaign or finance violations.

Then around the time the Trump Towers' meeting became exposed, I realized there was the possibility that Trump's team was reaching-out improperly. Then whenTrump composed the B.S. excuse letter on AF-1, I realized he likely was aware of the meeting. Still though, I figured this was possibly a one-off mistake.

But now with this last round of indictments giving the details of the scope of all of this, seeing it was a well coordinated & funded military attack by Putin, and in addition seeing Roger Stone tied to it, for the first time I'm entertaining the idea that Trump's campaign may indeed have been involved in coordination or some form of accepting assistance. I'm open to this last possibility, though I don't make a claim either. This thing is now too big, too real, for me to have a legit legal opinion. So, I am leaving it up to Mueller. I'm going with whatever he claims, unless hard evidence or common sense comes to the contrary.

Yeah. It seems Mueller is telling a story here through the indictments. They're legit, I'm sure. But he's using them to tell a story. I severely doubt there will be more indictments until after November. I'm sure everyone learned a lesson from the Comey fiasco.

Didn't even notice the timestamp.


No problem buddy, I know you're good.
Your being fair and that's all anyone should ask for from anyone they disagree with. I look forward to future conversations as we learn more

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So Chomsky - you are bright and astute and experienced - so tell me, what will be the Trump October surprise (because there will be one) that saves the House and Senate for the GOP and screws us all royally for the next two years (at least)?
Thanks for the kind words!

But if I really were bright, astute, and experienced, I would never considering predicting an October Surprise!

If anything were to come-up to help Trump-GOP, it might be something involving the FBI-Mueller, even if fake, and tying it to the Dems. Perhaps something found by Nunes or a GOP investigatory committee, and likely involving Hillary, Obama, or both. But God only knows what that could be.

You got any ideas?
 
Your being fair and that's all anyone should ask for from anyone they disagree with. I look forward to future conversations as we learn more

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Thanks! Same here.
 
Thanks for the kind words!

But if I really were bright, astute, and experienced, I would never considering predicting an October Surprise!

If anything were to come-up to help Trump-GOP, it might be something involving the FBI-Mueller, even if fake, and tying it to the Dems. Perhaps something found by Nunes or a GOP investigatory committee, and likely involving Hillary, Obama, or both. But God only knows what that could be.

You got any ideas?

I suspect you are on the right track and we will see more of the same effort to delegitimize the Mueller investigation.

As to my ideas other than that - I expect something big and dirty and false to be floated as right now it looks like the Dems will take at least one part of Congress and Trump knows if that happens - its going to be a very bumpy ride for the next two years as there will be all manner of investigations against him.
 
It sounds like he is setting a new trap for all of those resistance children out there... bwa ha ha..
 
I suspect you are on the right track and we will see more of the same effort to delegitimize the Mueller investigation.

As to my ideas other than that - I expect something big and dirty and false to be floated as right now it looks like the Dems will take at least one part of Congress and Trump knows if that happens - its going to be a very bumpy ride for the next two years as there will be all manner of investigations against him.
Yep, agreed.

As you can see, yesterday the GOP - save for those leaving office - all kept their cowardly silence. Then today they've come out defending Trump, and resuming their attacks on Law Enforcement, Intel, Dems, Obama, Hillary, and anything not Trump. Nothing has changed with the GOP and Trumpers, despite Trump having allied with Putin while eschewing America, with his supporters and enablers now gladly jumping on the Putin-Trump bandwagon.

Now they want Mueller to share his intel with the GRU! Do you believe it? Trump calls it "an amazing opportunity", and is thanking Putin for his interjecting himself into Mueller's investigation.
 
Yep, agreed.

As you can see, yesterday the GOP - save for those leaving office - all kept their cowardly silence. Then today they've come out defending Trump, and resuming their attacks on Law Enforcement, Intel, Dems, Obama, Hillary, and anything not Trump. Nothing has changed with the GOP and Trumpers, despite Trump having allied with Putin while eschewing America, with his supporters and enablers now gladly jumping on the Putin-Trump bandwagon.

exactly - and lets see how many of those GOP'ers will swallow hard and accept the utter BS that Trump just tried to float today?

The vast majority is the correct answer.
 
Considering one is his campaign manager and the other his first pick for national security advisor, you can answer that yourself, if you are honest.

I am honest. The FBI is not.
 
To answer your question: The narrative.

As to the trial delay, both parties agreed 90 days to produced the additional discovery documents the defendant is calling for, and the judge signed-off on their agreement. Two Terabytes - 3,000 CDs - is a lot of data to enter into the record. I see no issue here.

I grew up as a Minnesota Vikings fan.

The Vikings were considered to be a pretty good team before they lost to the Chiefs in Super Bowl IV.

They had never played against the 3-4 defense and were not prepared to block the defensive schemes. They lost.

Mueller was not prepared. The issue I see in this is that he was showboating and when he was asked to present the goods he said he had, he could not.

You say he had "Two Terabytes - 3,000 CDs - is a lot of data to enter into the record." Obviously, he did NOT have this stuff or he would have presented it when it was demanded.

I imagine there's a whole lot of redacting going on. Those FBI incriminating entries aren't going to expunge themselves.
 
If...

But then again I famously said that Trump would be gone by now, he has astounded me with his stamina, so in a way every day he sticks is gravy.

How would he have been gone by now? That would mean the Republicans in congress would have totally turned on him. Did you really think that was going to happen (this soon anyway?)
 
You know, as this thing started building we always theorized this (Trump family involvement) could be possible, but most of us believed it would never come to it. Well now, all bets are off. I'm willing to concede anything's possible, and Trump's public display of appeasement while on the stage with Putin, only gives me further pause to doubt this could happen.

At this point, it's my belief that protecting the integrity of the Mueller investigation is the most critical current element in ensuring our fully-functional democracy as we know it. If anything, the investigation must remain integral to allow us to move forward in political terms - at the very least.
That is going to be hard to do if it turns out Mueller's investigation was never warranted in the first place. And it looks like we are getting even closer to proving such. This week Rosenstein said he would not end the Mueller probe UNLESS he was provided evidence to do so. Lisa Page this week was very revealing in her testimony before Congress.

It is no longer in dispute that they held animus for Donald Trump, who was a subject of their Russia probe, or that they openly discussed using the powers of their office to “stop” Trump from becoming president. The only question is whether any official acts they took in the Russia collusion probe were driven by those sentiments.
The Justice Department’s inspector general is endeavoring to answer that question.
For any American who wants an answer sooner, there are just five words, among the thousands of suggestive texts Page and Strzok exchanged, that you should read.
That passage was transmitted on May 19, 2017. “There’s no big there there,” Strzok texted.
The date of the text long has intrigued investigators: It is two days after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein named special counsel Robert Mueller to oversee an investigation into alleged collusion between Trump and the Russia campaign.
Since the text was turned over to Congress, investigators wondered whether it referred to the evidence against the Trump campaign.
This month, they finally got the chance to ask. Strzok declined to say — but Page, during a closed-door interview with lawmakers, confirmed in the most pained and contorted way that the message in fact referred to the quality of the Russia case, according to multiple eyewitnesses.
The admission is deeply consequential. It means Rosenstein unleashed the most awesome powers of a special counsel to investigate an allegation that the key FBI officials, driving the investigation for 10 months beforehand, did not think was “there.”
By the time of the text and Mueller’s appointment, the FBI’s best counterintelligence agents had had plenty of time to dig. They knowingly used a dossier funded by Hillary Clinton’s campaign — which contained uncorroborated allegations — to persuade the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court to issue a warrant to monitor Trump campaign adviser Carter Page (no relation to Lisa Page).
They sat on Carter Page’s phones and emails for nearly six months without getting evidence that would warrant prosecuting him. The evidence they had gathered was deemed so weak that their boss, then-FBI Director James Comey, was forced to admit to Congress after being fired by Trump that the core allegation remained substantially uncorroborated.

http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/39...e-in-russia-probe-should-alarm-every-american

With Lisa Page's admission under oath, it is one step closer to making the case that there was no there, there. So while Horowitz continues his investigation into FISA abuse, leaking abuse, abuse of unmasking of Americans and if the investigation was politically motivated at the FBI/DOJ, U.S. Attorney Huber can take any leads and investigate the actions taken by other intel agencies that are tied to this investigation and subpoena anyone he wants. The actions of Brennan, Clapper and Comey becoming openly political hacks themselves since resigning or in the case of Comey being fired sure reveals the political bias they held and was that bias what motivated them to do what they did? Inquiring minds want to know.

The only persons related to interfering with our elections that Mueller has indicted have been Russians. And every one of their names was already in the final report from the House Intel committee released months ago and whose names were redacted in the report issued to the public.
 
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