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    Re: CNN still relying on that debunked Puerto Rican death toll

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Backing up Vern on the "honesty" thing?

    Not a bright move.
    He's not "backing me up on anything". He's simply agreeing with my clear and straight forward point. and fled, my point is my clear and straight forward right there for all to read and (this is key) its there for you to dissect, dispute, rebut, add context, spell check or whatever your heart desires. I didn't assure you I was right and the OP was wrong. I didn't say I don't have to back up my point. I didn't claim others have already backed up my point. I didn't post "nuh uh" over and over. I made a clear and straight forward point and posted the relevant links. How crazy is that?
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    Re: CNN still relying on that debunked Puerto Rican death toll

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    He's not "backing me up on anything". He's simply agreeing with my clear and straight forward point. and fled, my point is my clear and straight forward right there for all to read and (this is key) its there for you to dissect, dispute, rebut, add context, spell check or whatever your heart desires. I didn't assure you I was right and the OP was wrong. I didn't say I don't have to back up my point. I didn't claim others have already backed up my point. I didn't post "nuh uh" over and over. I made a clear and straight forward point and posted the relevant links. How crazy is that?
    Blah blah Vernbabble blah blah...
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    Re: CNN still relying on that debunked Puerto Rican death toll

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    See fled, you are capable of making honest and intelligent points. And this is not the first time I've seen it. Why are you afraid to be honest and intelligent all the time?
    Why are you not addressing Mizzy's post? Probably because you agree with her ridiculous allegation.
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    Re: CNN still relying on that debunked Puerto Rican death toll

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizzy22 View Post
    Every one who died,that could have lived,because Trump denied aid,their blood is on Trump!
    More people could be alive if Puerto Rico had managed itself properly. The electric grid has been caveman for years. Clearly they are corrupt. Building standards are outdated. They have been in the hurricane zone for centuries, they need to get a ****ing clue.
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    Re: CNN still relying on that debunked Puerto Rican death toll

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    More people could be alive if Puerto Rico had managed itself properly. The electric grid has been caveman for years. Clearly they are corrupt. Building standards are outdated. They have been in the hurricane zone for centuries, they need to get a ****ing clue.
    Is that your excuse for letting Trump ignore PR?

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    Re: CNN still relying on that debunked Puerto Rican death toll

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why are you not addressing Mizzy's post? Probably because you agree with her ridiculous allegation.
    er uh American. Fled addressed it. I complimented Fled addressing it. Trump has blood on his hands just not every death and mizzy restated it with less hyperbole. But now that I know you think every poster should deal with over the top comments you should address HT's falsehoods. You should also tell her when someone asks her to back up a point she should do it. Now that she has attempted to back up her point, its easy to see why she was hesitant. do you want me to direct to you other threads where she refuses to back up her claims?
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    Re: CNN still relying on that debunked Puerto Rican death toll

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Blah blah Vernbabble blah blah...
    there, that's the fled that afraid to make honest and intelligent points. I made a clear straight forward point and you post some juvenile deflection. Since your fear manifests itself when I'm involved I have to conclude VDS.
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    Re: CNN still relying on that debunked Puerto Rican death toll

    Quote Originally Posted by KLATTU View Post
    Note the *HEADLINE* in this article.

    Hurricane Maria death toll may be more than 4,600 in Puerto Rico

    this point will sail right over Vern's head, but normies get it.
    I read the story. A legitimate source says anywhere from 800 to 8000 people may have died. Why not address your falsehood that "without explaining how fuzzy the number really is". They clearly explained it. Remember, you're accusing me of partisanship.

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    Re: CNN still relying on that debunked Puerto Rican death toll

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    there, that's the fled that afraid to make honest and intelligent points. I made a clear straight forward point and you post some juvenile deflection. Since your fear manifests itself when I'm involved I have to conclude VDS.
    More Vernbabble...
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    Re: CNN still relying on that debunked Puerto Rican death toll

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    I posted the information orginally on May 30th -- you can read about it -- and the source here:
    https://www.debatepolitics.com/break...post1068579179 (Study: Puerto Rico death toll 4,600 higher post-Maria)
    HT, this is a debate forum. When you are asked to back up a point, you should just do it. But I see why you were so hesitant to re-post it. I knew your "calendar year" point was flawed but I just didn't know how much. Now I know: completely. First off, even if the death toll in calendar year 2017 was lower, it wouldn't change the fact that 1400 more people died in the 2.5 months following Maria. That alone should have had you "pumping the brakes" on your narrative. Had you made the image you posted in the other thread just a little bigger we would have gotten this nugget

    Source: CIA World Factbook - Unless otherwise noted, information in this page is accurate as of June 30, 2015


    Had you gone to the CIA World Factbook site, the source of that data, you would have clearly seen that 2017 was an estimate.

    8.6 deaths/1,000 population (2017 est.)

    And its not a big deal but PR lost about 10% of its population after Maria. So now that you understand that you didn't post actual data but an estimate (and probably from before Maria) don't you think you should reconsider your point?
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