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Hannity post-Rudy interview

haymarket said:
Very well stated. Thank you for the link.

What Hannity and most on the far right (and I include Republican members of Congress and the FOX media) who enable Trump are really saying is this: okay - Trump may not always tell the truth...... Trump might outright lie at times .... the people that work for Trump might outright lie at times ...... maybe they did conspire with the Russians ...... maybe they did violate some laws in doing that ...... maybe they did buy off women to keep them quiet after Trump had sex with them ..... maybe he made election promises he cannot make good on..... and maybe he even is disgracing the office of the President with his tweets and behavior and comments....

BUT

Trump had to do this because of HILLARY CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clinton made him do it!!!!!!!!!

You see folks, in the eyes of the right wing, Clinton is the Great SATAN who must be opposed by any means necessary and Trump only did what he had to do in order to defeat the Great SATAN and so its okay in their eyes.

That is what all this comes down to so in the end, nothing that Mueller or any court reveals about the crimes of Trump and his people will matter an iota to any of the Trumpkins.
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Yeah that's why he hired her husband's lawyer. Hillary made him do it.
 
haymarket said:
Very well stated. Thank you for the link.

What Hannity and most on the far right (and I include Republican members of Congress and the FOX media) who enable Trump are really saying is this: okay - Trump may not always tell the truth...... Trump might outright lie at times .... the people that work for Trump might outright lie at times ...... maybe they did conspire with the Russians ...... maybe they did violate some laws in doing that ...... maybe they did buy off women to keep them quiet after Trump had sex with them ..... maybe he made election promises he cannot make good on..... and maybe he even is disgracing the office of the President with his tweets and behavior and comments....

BUT

Trump had to do this because of HILLARY CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clinton made him do it!!!!!!!!!

You see folks, in the eyes of the right wing, Clinton is the Great SATAN who must be opposed by any means necessary and Trump only did what he had to do in order to defeat the Great SATAN and so its okay in their eyes.

That is what all this comes down to so in the end, nothing that Mueller or any court reveals about the crimes of Trump and his people will matter an iota to any of the Trumpkins.
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It makes my day when someone reads one of my posts and actually gets it. Thank you. You hit every nail on every head.

By the way, there is one man I miss, who knew what a piece of crap Trump was, and wasn't afraid to say it. Andrew Breitbart - who is probably rolling in his grave at what happened to the people he associated with, and especially to his once respectable media outlet:

 
Anthony60 said:
I don't mind if that's your opinion, but then you need to acknowledge that those on the other side are at least as clownish, if you want any credibility at all.
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:shrug: "citizenry in general and the electorate in particular", I thought, indicated that general nature of the problem. Yes - people prefer to live in the clown tent; tribalism was previously dominant on the Left; the Right has recently begun to ape and expand on their idiocies. Except where the Left tends to put their worst displays of foolishness on College Campuses, the Right tends to have them on places like Hannity.

And you need to back it up.
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...Did you miss the 2016 election?
 
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NeverTrumpGOP said:
The fact that he is proud to announce everyday to his listeners that he is reporting to them from an underground bunker (even though not really?) tells you all you need to know about Levin, but this thread is not about levin. It's about Hannity and Rudy.
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Wow, fantastic point! You are right, the opening of the show, and hourly, does say that. Completely negates all his books, comments, research, and all television appearances. Good God. You can pick up your participation trophy on your way out.
 
Anthony60 said:
Who are you talking about? Trump? Hannity? Giuliani?
As I posted before, I took your post the wrong way, I thought you were looking to debate something about the interview. I see you were just ripping on people. Go ahead, rip away.
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I'm talking about Trump.

Debate something about what interview? The one with Gorka? Digenova? Sure. Let's debate them. Go on ahead and tell me what was good about those interviews.

or perhaps you can fill me in on the "explosive" news from Rudy about Hillary that the MSM ignored all day yesterday while focusing on the 30 second comment about Trump paying Cohen back for the Daniels payment (which he had denied doing).
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: "citizenry in general and the electorate in particular", I thought, indicated that general nature of the problem. Yes - people prefer to live in the clown tent; tribalism was previously dominant on the Left; the Right has recently begun to ape and expand on their idiocies.



...Did you miss the 2016 election?
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Listen, unfortunately, it's pretty much all these clowns and low info types that put these people in office. I guess it makes sense that the networks will mostly put more clowns on the air then.
 
Anthony60 said:
Wow, fantastic point! You are right, the opening of the show, and hourly, does say that. Completely negates all his books, comments, research, and all television appearances. Good God. You can pick up your participation trophy on your way out.
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Well imo if someone is proud of that fact, nothing he says holds much merit. You have posted no evidence that Mark Levin, Hannity, or Rudy, even knows what they are talking about.
 
Maybe this fiasco will get more of the Hannity followers to start thinking about how much of a joke he is. But, typically, they only get their "news" from one source, so they rarely question anything. There needs to be deprogramming for the fanatic Fox viewer. For the rest of us....we know Hannity is a propagandist, and a complete hypocrite.
 
Anthony60 said:
Listen, unfortunately, it's pretty much all these clowns and low info types that put these people in office. I guess it makes sense that the networks will mostly put more clowns on the air then.
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Oh, the media is absolutely responding to market demand when they put clowns like Hannity on the air.

And, I continue my lonely call for requiring people to pass the Citizenship Exam as part of registering to vote.
 
tres borrachos said:
I set my Tivo and watched his show when I got home last night from a soccer game. For anyone who missed it, you need to watch it.



Okay, here are many things that concern me about this clown.

He has the President's ear, and apparently he is helping Trump do his job. He has loyal fans (who are also citizens of Trump Fan Nation) who watch and listen to this crap and actually go through their days thinking this is what's really going on.

Hannity was raging constantly about how the "liberal media" focused on a 30 second clip (about the payment) and not about all of the other massive revelations Rudy made, including about - you guessed it - Hillary! If anyone saw the show, or feels like watching that clip, please let me know what big revelations did Rudy make about Hillary? About Mueller? About anything - other than telling the world that the President lied?

And is it just me or does he always have the same useless guests - Sebastian Gorka (that man is nuts), Joe Digenova (that man is nuts), Sara Carter (get your head out of Trump's lap, Sara), and Mark Levin, who I used to listen to in my car on Sirius radio and who is now even more pathetic than Hannity?

This is Trump Fan Nation, and it's the scariest place in the world these days.
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STOP listening to these guys....not good for your mind, or soul

the only guy that used to be worth listening to was Levin, and i cant even stomach him anymore

It is all propaganda...

the left uses MSNBC and CNN

the right uses Hannity, Rush, and others

Very little is really news worthy, or worth listening to....

I read what i want to know....and source a LOT of sites, to try and get a reasonable view

Cant stand what is on TV news shows these days
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Well imo if someone is proud of that fact, nothing he says holds much merit. You have posted no evidence that Mark Levin, Hannity, or Rudy, even knows what they are talking about.
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You are the one calling Levin crazy, but you didn't back it up at all. I don't need to post anything at all. I at least posted that he is well spoken and well researched. The best you could counter with was that the opening of the show says something about an underground bunker. You seem to not quite get the tongue-in-cheek aspect of that.

Hey, if it's just your opinion, fine. I just wanted to know why.
 
cpwill said:
Oh, the media is absolutely responding to market demand when they put clowns like Hannity on the air.

And, I continue my lonely call for requiring people to pass the Citizenship Exam as part of registering to vote.
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We would then have Presidential elections where the vote counts resemble a baseball game. Trump wins, 5-4 over Hillary!
 
cpwill said:
Oh, the media is absolutely responding to market demand when they put clowns like Hannity on the air.

And, I continue my lonely call for requiring people to pass the Citizenship Exam as part of registering to vote.
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It speaks volumes that Hannity is number one in prime time cable "news," right now.
 
Anthony60 said:
You are the one calling Levin crazy, but you didn't back it up at all. I don't need to post anything at all. I at least posted that he is well spoken and well researched. The best you could counter with was that the opening of the show says something about an underground bunker. You seem to not quite get the tongue-in-cheek aspect of that.

Hey, if it's just your opinion, fine. I just wanted to know why.
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Here are some reasons for believing Mark Levin is a nutball:

- Claimed the FBI colluded with Russia during the 2016 election campaign.
- Characterized Senator Bernie Sanders as being “a radical Marxist who believes in violence."
- Called Jon Stewart a "self-hating Jew".
- Called Mitch McConnell a "RINO".
- Claimed Sarah Palin was "absolutely right" that the ACA included "death panels".
- Called President Obama a Muslim Brotherhood "sympathizer", and said the US federal government was "infiltrated" by the group.
- Stated that President Obama was "seeking to destroy Israel".
- Characterized supporters of the Affordable Care Act as NAZI "Brownshirts".
- Claimed that Barack Obama "wiretapped Trump Tower".
- Claimed that Robert Mueller and his investigation is a "coup attempt" aimed at destroying the "Constitutional system".
- Denies climate change.
- Claimed that evolutionary biology is "not a science" and "leads to tyranny".
- Still believes that Saddam Hussein was actually hiding WMD's before the Iraqi invasion, and that he employed them against US soldiers.

Dude is INSANE. Anxiously anticipating your rebuttal! lol
 
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tres borrachos said:
What was most comical to me about last night's Hannity was how he and that lunatic Gorka were gigglng like schoolgirls about how Hannity owns space in the heads of the liberal media - right before launching into diatribe number 48957589475 about Hillary Clinton.
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some serious projection going on.

sometimes I wonder if they were half as smart as they think they are, you'd think they'd be self-aware. I guess pride and anger are a helluva bitch.
 
RickJames3000 said:
Here are some reasons for believing Mark Levin is a nutball:

- Claimed the FBI colluded with Russia during the 2016 election campaign.
- Characterized Senator Bernie Sanders as being “a radical Marxist who believes in violence."
- Called Jon Stewart a "self-hating Jew".
- Called Mitch McConnell a "RINO".
- Claimed Sarah Palin was "absolutely right" that the ACA included "death panels".
- Called President Obama a Muslim Brotherhood "sympathizer", and said the US federal government was "infiltrated" by the group.
- Stated that President Obama was "seeking to destroy Israel".
- Characterized supporters of the Affordable Care Act as NAZI "Brownshirts".
- Claimed that Barack Obama "wiretapped Trump Tower".
- Claimed that Robert Mueller and his investigation is a "coup attempt" aimed at destroying the "Constitutional system".
- Denies climate change.
- Claimed that evolutionary biology is "not a science" and "leads to tyranny".
- Still believes that Saddam Hussein was actually hiding WMD's before the Iraqi invasion, and that he employed them against US soldiers.

Dude is INSANE. Anxiously anticipating your rebuttal! lol
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wow thanks for doing that. I really, really didn't want to. I guess this is what happens when you live in a underground bunker.
 
RickJames3000 said:
Here are some reasons for believing Mark Levin is a nutball:

- Claimed the FBI colluded with Russia during the 2016 election campaign.
- Characterized Senator Bernie Sanders as being “a radical Marxist who believes in violence."
- Called Jon Stewart a "self-hating Jew".
- Called Mitch McConnell a "RINO".
- Claimed Sarah Palin was "absolutely right" that the ACA included "death panels".
- Called President Obama a Muslim Brotherhood "sympathizer", and said the US federal government was "infiltrated" by the group.
- Stated that President Obama was "seeking to destroy Israel".
- Characterized supporters of the Affordable Care Act as NAZI "Brownshirts".
- Claimed that Barack Obama "wiretapped Trump Tower".
- Claimed that Robert Mueller and his investigation is a "coup attempt" aimed at destroying the "Constitutional system".
- Denies climate change.
- Claimed that evolutionary biology is "not a science" and "leads to tyranny".
- Still believes that Saddam Hussein was actually hiding WMD's before the Iraqi invasion, and that he employed them against US soldiers.

Dude is INSANE. Anxiously anticipating your rebuttal! lol
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OMG. What the ****?

- Claimed Sarah Palin was "absolutely right" that the ACA included "death panels".
- Called President Obama a Muslim Brotherhood "sympathizer", and said the US federal government was "infiltrated" by the group.
- Stated that President Obama was "seeking to destroy Israel".
- Characterized supporters of the Affordable Care Act as NAZI "Brownshirts".
 
Anthony60 said:
We would then have Presidential elections where the vote counts resemble a baseball game. Trump wins, 5-4 over Hillary!
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Eh, I think you'd have a few more than that capable of passing, especially once it became the pathway to voting. But if it means we get rid of large numbers of those who had no idea what they were doing.... I'm generally okay with that.
 
RickJames3000 said:
Here are some reasons for believing Mark Levin is a nutball:

- Claimed the FBI colluded with Russia during the 2016 election campaign.
- Characterized Senator Bernie Sanders as being “a radical Marxist who believes in violence."
- Called Jon Stewart a "self-hating Jew".
- Called Mitch McConnell a "RINO".
- Claimed Sarah Palin was "absolutely right" that the ACA included "death panels".
- Called President Obama a Muslim Brotherhood "sympathizer", and said the US federal government was "infiltrated" by the group.
- Stated that President Obama was "seeking to destroy Israel".
- Characterized supporters of the Affordable Care Act as NAZI "Brownshirts".
- Claimed that Barack Obama "wiretapped Trump Tower".
- Claimed that Robert Mueller and his investigation is a "coup attempt" aimed at destroying the "Constitutional system".
- Denies climate change.
- Claimed that evolutionary biology is "not a science" and "leads to tyranny".
- Still believes that Saddam Hussein was actually hiding WMD's before the Iraqi invasion, and that he employed them against US soldiers.

Dude is INSANE. Anxiously anticipating your rebuttal! lol
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10-15 years ago, he was one of my favorite radio hosts

and his first books were amazing

but like so many others....he has gone way over the rails....
 
gdgyva said:
10-15 years ago, he was one of my favorite radio hosts

and his first books were amazing

but like so many others....he has gone way over the rails....
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I guess, to be fair, I'd have to wonder how much of this he actually believes... and how much of it is pandering to that segment of the GOP that makes up Trump's base.
If he isn't downright crazy... he is (generously speaking) a cynical opportunist.
 
tres borrachos said:
OMG. What the ****?

- Claimed Sarah Palin was "absolutely right" that the ACA included "death panels".
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Just to point out, the IPAB is indeed real. The House voted to repeal it, it's one of the many, many things that the GOP let slip once they actually had a chance of not getting vetoed :mad:.


- Called President Obama a Muslim Brotherhood "sympathizer", and said the US federal government was "infiltrated" by the group.
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I would say the former is likely accurate. We spent a lot of time and effort during the Bush and especially Obama Administrations convincing ourselves we could work with the "Moderate Islamists". As for "Infiltrated", we paid a lot of such folks to advise and give speeches (embarrassingly, Anwar al-Awlaki, who probably remains AQ's most powerful messenger, even after his later death, was one of them), but yeah, infiltrated is unlikely.

- Stated that President Obama was "seeking to destroy Israel".[/B]
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hyperbolic and clownish. Disliked, had strong distaste for, was willing to dramatically increase the risk to, actively opposed, wished to significantly curtail, etc., sure. But "seeking to destroy" is, like:

- Characterized supporters of the Affordable Care Act as NAZI "Brownshirts".
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Hyperbolic and childish. It's using the Left's tactics (everyone is Literally Hitler and committing, like, genocide, and stuff) against them, which might be how he defends it, but it's still hyperbolic and childish.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
wow thanks for doing that. I really, really didn't want to. I guess this is what happens when you live in a underground bunker.
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Interesting. I didn't even need all that. I just watched one of his videos and it became apparent he is an angry person; I don't trust angry people.
;)
 
Maybe it is pandering to the new GOP (Trump's people)...

Levin was/is brilliant...he was chief of staff for Edwin Meese in the Reagan cabinet...

And his show used to be informative, and very good listening

I cant stand it now....too much like Rush

Not sure if this is what he has to do to keep his ratings up, or if this is what he believes now
 
RickJames3000 said:
Here are some reasons for believing Mark Levin is a nutball:

- Claimed the FBI colluded with Russia during the 2016 election campaign.
- Characterized Senator Bernie Sanders as being “a radical Marxist who believes in violence."
- Called Jon Stewart a "self-hating Jew".
- Called Mitch McConnell a "RINO".
- Claimed Sarah Palin was "absolutely right" that the ACA included "death panels".
- Called President Obama a Muslim Brotherhood "sympathizer", and said the US federal government was "infiltrated" by the group.
- Stated that President Obama was "seeking to destroy Israel".
- Characterized supporters of the Affordable Care Act as NAZI "Brownshirts".
- Claimed that Barack Obama "wiretapped Trump Tower".
- Claimed that Robert Mueller and his investigation is a "coup attempt" aimed at destroying the "Constitutional system".
- Denies climate change.
- Claimed that evolutionary biology is "not a science" and "leads to tyranny".
- Still believes that Saddam Hussein was actually hiding WMD's before the Iraqi invasion, and that he employed them against US soldiers.

Dude is INSANE. Anxiously anticipating your rebuttal! lol
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Don't be to anxious, where did you get this list, Media Matters? "Denies climate change"? That makes you crazy? Plus, it's a false statement. He acknowledges that the climate is always changing. Oh, and good ol'e boy Mitch is as RINO as you can be. I could go on, but since there is no context at all, it really doesn't mean much. I know the context of a lot of them, which is why I know that this list is meaningless.
 
gdgyva said:
Maybe it is pandering to the new GOP (Trump's people)...

Levin was/is brilliant...he was chief of staff for Edwin Meese in the Reagan cabinet...

And his show used to be informative, and very good listening

I cant stand it now....too much like Rush

Not sure if this is what he has to do to keep his ratings up, or if this is what he believes now
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Anyone who relies on ratings has to give the people what they want so they can generate ad sales, which is why you take what the media reports with a grain of salt and verify across many different sources.
 
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