What the Right Wing media has begat

A very short clip, with a huge message. I thought I had fallen into a DP thread with 5 of the locals.

Trump supporters' claim stuns CNN anchor

California as far as I know has the tools to prevent illegal voting by preventing illegals for registering. After they register they can vote even if they spoofed the system. Having said hat, I asked one of Alex Padilla's staffers last quarter at a business round table meeting to publish a paper or get out on talk shows and settle the issue once and for all. He told me "not a chance".

Go figure. I don't know why politicians let disinformation fester when it is not necessary.

The woman's concerns are anecdotal, but no one is interested in proving her wrong so it's pretty hard to call her crazy, and CNN certainly doesn't have the market cornered on proof one way or the other. Only California can do that.

camlok said:

A very short clip, with a huge message. I thought I had fallen into a DP thread with 5 of the locals.

Trump supporters' claim stuns CNN anchor

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It's not hard to find ignorant Americans.

chuckiechan said:

The woman's concerns are anecdotal, but no one is interested in proving her wrong so it's pretty hard to call her crazy, and CNN certainly doesn't have the market cornered on proof one way or the other. Only California can do that.

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It's literally impossible to prove someone wrong when they believe in fantasies stemming from racist fantasies.

CMPancake said:

It's literally impossible to prove someone wrong when they believe in fantasies stemming from racist fantasies.

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Yes. Call everyone a racist. The default argument for everything they can's understand.

chuckiechan said:

Yes. Call everyone a racist. The default argument for everything they can's understand.

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Sorry, there's just no other way to refute someone who refuses to believe the reality that there's no systemic voting fraud in California. A false narrative they undoubtedly choose to believe in because Mexicans have the audacity to live in California.

Utility Man said:

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The best media meltdowns to Donald Trump winning the 2016 presidential election.
What happened when Trump won!!



Remember this left loon?





And good old Madonna spoke about blowing up the White House!

chuckiechan said:

California as far as I know has the tools to prevent illegal voting by preventing illegals for registering. After they register they can vote even if they spoofed the system. Having said hat, I asked one of Alex Padilla's staffers last quarter at a business round table meeting to publish a paper or get out on talk shows and settle the issue once and for all. He told me "not a chance".

Go figure. I don't know why politicians let disinformation fester when it is not necessary.

The woman's concerns are anecdotal, but no one is interested in proving her wrong so it's pretty hard to call her crazy, and CNN certainly doesn't have the market cornered on proof one way or the other. Only California can do that.

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Last time I voted in California they asked my name and address. Period. No ID.

And as I looked down on the voting roles I could have picked any name not already marked as voted.

It is easy to spoof the system.

Fledermaus said:

Last time I voted in California they asked my name and address. Period. No ID.

And as I looked down on the voting roles I could have picked any name not already marked as voted.

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Pretty much the same here in Illinois.

Fledermaus said:

Last time I voted in California they asked my name and address. Period. No ID.

And as I looked down on the voting roles I could have picked any name not already marked as voted.

It is easy to spoof the system.

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If this were widely done do you not think there would be an outcry from all those citizens who found someone had voted in their place? I certainly would cause a commotion if I was told I had already voted.

Just a rational thought for a moment....weigh the penalties for being found voting illegally vs. the benefit of casting ONE vote in a national election, and then hypothesize about the scale of illegal voting.

Now actual voter fraud...like culling the registration rolls (Florida, etc), or delivering malfunctioning machines to high population districts causing lines that go 4 or 5 hours (many urban areas)...that doesn't seem to bother the people who spend time complaining about illegalities at the polls.

Fledermaus said:

Last time I voted in California they asked my name and address. Period. No ID.

And as I looked down on the voting roles I could have picked any name not already marked as voted.

It is easy to spoof the system.

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How about when you registered. We’re you truthful? They take the information on your registration and check your address. But the “I certify I am a citizen” was weakened by Obama’s to require proof of intent.

JMR said:

If this were widely done do you not think there would be an outcry from all those citizens who found someone had voted in their place? I certainly would cause a commotion if I was told I had already voted.

Just a rational thought for a moment....weigh the penalties for being found voting illegally vs. the benefit of casting ONE vote in a national election, and then hypothesize about the scale of illegal voting.

Now actual voter fraud...like culling the registration rolls (Florida, etc), or delivering malfunctioning machines to high population districts causing lines that go 4 or 5 hours (many urban areas)...that doesn't seem to bother the people who spend time complaining about illegalities at the polls.

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Actual voting numbers were in the 20-30% rate. Go late in the day the chances of being found out are pretty much nill.

chuckiechan said:

How about when you registered. We’re you truthful? They take the information on your registration and check your address. But the “I certify I am a citizen” was weakened by Obama’s to require proof of intent.

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I was truthful about my information. AND I present ID whether or not they check.

I never heard the narrative about 3 million...she's crazy! I'm positive that cnn went through vetting to find crazy people.

Fledermaus said:

Actual voting numbers were in the 20-30% rate. Go late in the day the chances of being found out are pretty much nill.

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Could you please indicate how many people you believe are willing to risk the penalty of being caught for the "extreme" advantage of casting ONE vote in a national election? This is just plain silly. I understand you think it is easy to do, but do you have any proof at all that it is done?

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Could you please indicate how many people you believe are willing to risk the penalty of being caught for the "extreme" advantage of casting ONE vote in a national election? This is just plain silly. I understand you think it is easy to do, but do you have any proof at all that it is done?

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If you get mailed an absentee ballot, you throw it away when someone picks it up with 500 others and fills it out. No you didn’t do it, you threw it away.

The bottom line is like the census fight no one knows how many illegals there are, and if you know you might start wondering about vote totals. The last thing California wants is for it’s citizens to know how many illegals are in the state.

chuckiechan said:

If you get mailed an absentee ballot, you throw it away when someone picks it up with 500 others and fills it out. No you didn’t do it, you threw it away.

The bottom line is like the census fight no one knows how many illegals there are, and if you know you might start wondering about vote totals. The last thing California wants is for it’s citizens to know how many illegals are in the state.

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Why would someone get mailed an absentee ballot? This is really crazy stuff here.

JMR said:

Could you please indicate how many people you believe are willing to risk the penalty of being caught for the "extreme" advantage of casting ONE vote in a national election? This is just plain silly. I understand you think it is easy to do, but do you have any proof at all that it is done?

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It can be done. That is the point I make. Can be.

Fledermaus said:

It can be done. That is the point I make. Can be.

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And it is possible to rob a cash register. Both have penalties. The cash register might have a bigger profit motive.

Trump has claimed that 3 million people did this. Do you find that credible?

itsforthekids said:

I never heard the narrative about 3 million...she's crazy! I'm positive that cnn went through vetting to find crazy people.

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She's parroting claims by our current POTUS. I think you know this so I assume that was sarcasm...

JMR said:

And it is possible to rob a cash register. Both have penalties. The cash register might have a bigger profit motive.

Trump has claimed that 3 million people did this. Do you find that credible?

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3 million? No.

Fledermaus said:

3 million? No.

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How about 3?

Just kidding.

camlok said:

A very short clip, with a huge message. I thought I had fallen into a DP thread with 5 of the locals.

Trump supporters' claim stuns CNN anchor

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I loved the CNN Anchor's quick reference to the false FAUX News article. She pulled that up in about 5 seconds. These people are so brainwashed by FOX lies, that they have no concept of Truth. Reminiscent of the documentary, "The Brainwashing of my Dad".

Here is a brief transcript from the Gina Rodriguez and Obama interview:

Gina Rodriguez: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens - and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country - are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

Obama: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself and there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have and even greater reason to vote.

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Now if you just hear those two paragraphs that I transcribed form the video what do you think the thoughts are going to be? In the context of those two paragraphs Gina is specifically asking about "undocumented citizens" who she calls citizens, not because they are actual citizens but simply because they live and work here in the US. She is asking if immigration officials will find out if they voted and go to their homes and deport them. And then Obama goes "not true" and then explains essentially that such things are not investigated. What are you going to think?

Funny thing is that such things actually AREN'T investigated. No one checks whether someone that voted is a citizen or not. There is no system in place to discover such. Particularly when there are roughly 7 million illegal aliens that use fake or stolen SS numbers. And more often than not those stolen SSN's aren't used in the same state with which they came from. Which means even less of a chance of being found out as being false in State Records. The ONLY place to find out if identical SSN's are being used across the country is from the IRS, and by law they're not allowed to share that information due to privacy.

So, do I think its possible that 3 million illegal immigrants voted nationwide? Yes, I do. And the reason for that is because the chances of them being found out is extremely low. Even Obama said that such is not investigated. Sure, state officials can find fraud when it comes to someone padding the voting machine or voting in multiple locations. But determining whether someone that is here in the US illegally voted? That is a different story. The fact that millions of illegal immigrants live in the US, and many have for decades, is proof that our system is not designed too well to keep illegals out of our systems. And you can't tell me that they're worried about consequences when many illegals file tax returns for children that don't even live in the country. Often getting more in their tax returns than my family makes in a year because they're falsely claiming dependents/children that don't live with them and never have.