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New York Times: America Belongs to Immigrants, Israel Belongs to Jews

truthatallcost said:
I was referring to Germany. Do you know anything about where you live?
You are. It's a trademark of white liberals from America.
That's a lie. You can't produce any such statement.
My god...i look at the fact that you have more likes than comments, and scratch my head in confusion of why. Tell me how its anti-American to call Germany, or ANY European country for that matter, a white society.
Then explain how it's not anti-American for you to say that white Americans should be deported, based on ideology differences you have with them.
Germany's society is white. It always has been. When and if it ceases to be, you'll move to another society that happens to be white. Maybe Israel will be the only one left by that point, and you can mozaltov.
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White society doesn't exist, especially in Germany or the USA. Just society. No amount of you crying is going to make the brown people in both societies disappear. If that burns you up, grab a torch and whine aloud.
 
Why even invoke Israel at all with regard to a fact so obvious it doesn't need an add-on to be true? Seems like it is just trying to piss people off, opinion piece or not.
 
wellwisher said:
In the Old Testament, Jacob, who was also called Israel, had twelve sons and heirs, from two wives and two concubines. These sons would become the patriarchs of the twelve tribes of Israel. Joseph was the patriarch of the Jews, which is one of the twelve tribes. There are eleven other tribes who share the inheritance, called Israel. These other tribes have not yet been fully differentiated, so they can accept their share of the land promised by Jacob.



Genetic testing of Jews and Arabs show they both have common ancestors. Jacob is not just a prophet of the Jews and Christians, but he is also a prophet in Islam. Peace in the Middle East will require finding the lost tribes, and restoring the original twelve tribe inheritance.



As far as white supremacy and white guilt in America, there is math problem that the Democrats are trying to cover up with deception. If you recall, President Lincoln and the Republican party were against slavery. The Democrats were the party of slaves. The Civil War was not just a war to maintain the Union, but it was also a war to end slavery. The net affect was the white Republicans, from the time of Lincoln, paid it forward, with hundreds of thousands of white Republican deaths, fighting the war to end slavery. If we wish to do a calculation, what is the value of a human life and then multiply that by 200,000. The white Republicans at the time of Lincoln, paid their dues, in advance. White Republicans are paid up to the tunes of $trillions.

The white Democrats, during the civil war, doubled down for slavery. They sacrificed hundreds of thousands of fellow Democrats, but to maintain slavery. The never paid for their shady past, but doubled the debt for their fellow Democrats of the future. The white Democrats own white guilt, since they never paid anything forward, but doubled down on slavery, then doubled down on segregation and then on discrimination.

The northern Democrats did pay down some of the Democrat debt, starting in the 1950's and 1960's; Civil Rights. This was sort of cancelled by souther Democrats, with a slight net payment. This was a start, but it was small change compared to 200,000 Republican lives offered to end slavery during the Civil War. The comparison is, we have the price of a human life, versus part time work.

The modern Democrats, the party of fake news, is trying to pull a sleaze play. They are in denial for their own inherited guilt and are trying to spread Democrat guilt to all whites, including Republicans who are already paid up due to the generosity of their past. This sleaze play means they are adding debt, again. They never learn. What I would do is create laws that will start the Democrat on a restitution path, for their exclusive white guilt, until they catch up to the Republicans.
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Since the Southern Democrats joined the Republican Party after Johnson signed the voting rights act they brought their part of the debt with them, leaving the Northern Democrats in positive territory. Interesting how you assign party membership by geography. I always enjoy creative bull****. :mrgreen:
 
HowardBThiname said:
That's different than the immigrants/foreigners who come to the US. Well, for the most part -- we have seen some come with the specific intent to harm us (911 hijackers, San Bernadino terrorists, etc.).
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Why are Americans seemingly so comfortable with bearing false witness against people when they have zero evidence to support their lies. The lies their lying governments feed the gullible.
 
truthatallcost said:
NYT writer Bret Stephens authored an opinion piece dated April 20, 2018...
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Everything about this thread is right there. This debate area is "bias in media." By their nature, opinion pieces are biased. That's why they're on the opinion pages.
 
MTAtech said:
Everything about this thread is right there. This debate area is "bias in media." By their nature, opinion pieces are biased. That's why they're on the opinion pages.
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Worth noting nonetheless.
 
Chomsky said:
Last I looked, the Constitution doesn't call a culture, race, or religion, "American". It defines an American as one that takes an oath & swears allegiance to it. If it's good enough for the Constitution, it's good enough for me!
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I think a mockery has been made of that argument!
 
RabidAlpaca said:
White society doesn't exist, especially in Germany or the USA. Just society. No amount of you crying is going to make the brown people in both societies disappear. If that burns you up, grab a torch and whine aloud.
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Truthatallcost appears to relate to the cabal of white Americans who are seriously scared ****less that when the US population becomes a non-white majority nation Truthatallcost will be treated by non-white people the same way he treats them today in a "white society." Payback being a mother****er and all.
 
jews actually do not belong anywhere; fo realz ........
God can take them to his fairy land ............. let the Palis have the land ............
 
wellwisher said:
In the Old Testament, Jacob, who was also called Israel, had twelve sons and heirs, from two wives and two concubines. These sons would become the patriarchs of the twelve tribes of Israel. Joseph was the patriarch of the Jews, which is one of the twelve tribes. There are eleven other tribes who share the inheritance, called Israel. These other tribes have not yet been fully differentiated, so they can accept their share of the land promised by Jacob.



Genetic testing of Jews and Arabs show they both have common ancestors. Jacob is not just a prophet of the Jews and Christians, but he is also a prophet in Islam. Peace in the Middle East will require finding the lost tribes, and restoring the original twelve tribe inheritance.



As far as white supremacy and white guilt in America, there is math problem that the Democrats are trying to cover up with deception. If you recall, President Lincoln and the Republican party were against slavery. The Democrats were the party of slaves. The Civil War was not just a war to maintain the Union, but it was also a war to end slavery. The net affect was the white Republicans, from the time of Lincoln, paid it forward, with hundreds of thousands of white Republican deaths, fighting the war to end slavery. If we wish to do a calculation, what is the value of a human life and then multiply that by 200,000. The white Republicans at the time of Lincoln, paid their dues, in advance. White Republicans are paid up to the tunes of $trillions.

The white Democrats, during the civil war, doubled down for slavery. They sacrificed hundreds of thousands of fellow Democrats, but to maintain slavery. The never paid for their shady past, but doubled the debt for their fellow Democrats of the future. The white Democrats own white guilt, since they never paid anything forward, but doubled down on slavery, then doubled down on segregation and then on discrimination.

The northern Democrats did pay down some of the Democrat debt, starting in the 1950's and 1960's; Civil Rights. This was sort of cancelled by souther Democrats, with a slight net payment. This was a start, but it was small change compared to 200,000 Republican lives offered to end slavery during the Civil War. The comparison is, we have the price of a human life, versus part time work.

The modern Democrats, the party of fake news, is trying to pull a sleaze play. They are in denial for their own inherited guilt and are trying to spread Democrat guilt to all whites, including Republicans who are already paid up due to the generosity of their past. This sleaze play means they are adding debt, again. They never learn. What I would do is create laws that will start the Democrat on a restitution path, for their exclusive white guilt, until they catch up to the Republicans.
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what a complete ****ing bull**** post .............
 
so, the jews get to displace the palis, take THEIR land, & kill them off at will, for decades, just because the jews were in a bit of bad luck?

No, not so fast Dagwood .........
 
truthatallcost said:
Ah, spoken like a true expat living in a non-Pluralistic, white society. Enjoy that freshly squeezed hypocrisy this morning! ‎Abschied!
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He singled out the WHINER faction specifically.
Sorry but I might have to agree. Whiny Christians in America? Whiny WHITE Christians in America? Whiny WHITE Christians in America who pretend that they are under attack?

Reminds me of this cartoon that depicts another aspect of class warfare:

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Whiny billionaires who pretend that THEY are under attack by vicious leftists.

The editorial on the other hand, is bull****.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Jews can be any color.
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True, but 80% of Jews today are Askenazi Jews, which is a Jew of central or eastern European descent. Or plain old white, as you and I are referred to. Israel prefers these European Jews for aliyah, the migration to Israel from so called diaspora countries, and rejects primarily black Jews from being allowed to migrate to Israel.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
He singled out the WHINER faction specifically.
Sorry but I might have to agree. Whiny Christians in America? Whiny WHITE Christians in America? Whiny WHITE Christians in America who pretend that they are under attack?
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You're white too. Hell, I thought you were Italian the other day when you posted your picture in a thread.

Perhaps white Christians are just now beginning to get in on the racial/religious extortion industry that other groups like the ADL and others perfected decades ago? Hell, CAIR was once tied to 9/11, and you don't see anyone cutting their funding or accusing them of being whiners. They're quite protected and doing well these days.

Reminds me of this cartoon that depicts another aspect of class warfare:

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Whiny billionaires who pretend that THEY are under attack by vicious leftists.

The editorial on the other hand, is bull****.
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Many are as you describe, from Hillary Clinton to neoconservatives to Rush Limbaugh to etc, etc.

I think it's quite known that the white WASP billionaire set in this country prefer establishment DNC/GOP to any real change. Which is why Bernie Sanders was clubbed over the head during the primaries, and Donald Trump was the last person they wanted to see elected.
 
truthatallcost said:
You're white too. Hell, I thought you were Italian the other day when you posted your picture in a thread.

Perhaps white Christians are just now beginning to get in on the racial/religious extortion industry that other groups like the ADL and others perfected decades ago? Hell, CAIR was once tied to 9/11, and you don't see anyone cutting their funding or accusing them of being whiners. They're quite protected and doing well these days.



Many are as you describe, from Hillary Clinton to neoconservatives to Rush Limbaugh to etc, etc.

I think it's quite known that the white WASP billionaire set in this country prefer establishment DNC/GOP to any real change. Which is why Bernie Sanders was clubbed over the head during the primaries, and Donald Trump was the last person they wanted to see elected.
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What-the-****-ever dude, I'm just not going to gush with sympathy over a group that claims a staggering majority that crosses all racial and ethnic lines as somehow being under attack. The ones who ARE under attack are the ones running around attacking everyone else, even other Christians.
They're whining because people are fighting back and telling them to mind their own damn business. See Dominionists and Reconstructionists.

There IS no "ITALIAN" box on any forms I've ever seen, maybe back in the early turn of the century 1900's when Italians were classified as "dirty garlic eaters" by the WASP billionaire set, who at the time had a couple less zeroes but no lesser amount of wealth and power.

Thus Italians are WHITE.

Sanders clubbed over the head during the primaries? Why would YOU care about him? He's a communist, isn't that what you always say?
Bernie's mistake was Bernie's and he should own it. He insisted on not being a Democrat. So the Democratic Party did what they always do, they protected THEIR Democratic Party candidate. You and I might both disagree with the tactics, one or both of us might believe some of what they did was possibly even illegal.
Doesn't matter because even if their tactics had been 100% legal, none of it was surprising.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
What-the-****-ever dude, I'm just not going to gush with sympathy over a group that claims a staggering majority that crosses all racial and ethnic lines as somehow being under attack. The ones who ARE under attack are the ones running around attacking everyone else, even other Christians.
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Eh... No sane person or group of people belonging to the same demographic would rejoice at becoming a minority in a country where they've been the majority for 200 years. That would just fly in face of human biology, instinct, and self interest. I know why it's happening, for a complex variety of reasons, but I'm not going to celebrate it like some brain dead neo-Marxist without an ounce of foresight.

They're whining because people are fighting back and telling them to mind their own damn business. See Dominionists and Reconstructionists.
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Get real man. Where do you see a reconstructionist movement occurring today in America? Or anything remotely similar?

There IS no "ITALIAN" box on any forms I've ever seen, maybe back in the early turn of the century 1900's when Italians were classified as "dirty garlic eaters" by the WASP billionaire set, who at the time had a couple less zeroes but no lesser amount of wealth and power.

Thus Italians are WHITE.
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Sure Check, in your world there was no Italian box on the census, just a 'Dirty Garlic Eater' box. Alternative facts.

Italians were counted as white on the 1900 census.

BTW, this white Christan billionaire set works marvelously well with the white Jewish billionaire set to control about 99% of industry, government, media, finance, etc.

Sanders clubbed over the head during the primaries? Why would YOU care about him? He's a communist, isn't that what you always say?
Bernie's mistake was Bernie's and he should own it. He insisted on not being a Democrat. So the Democratic Party did what they always do, they protected THEIR Democratic Party candidate.
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I disagree with your analysis of why the DNC shafted the Bernster. They shafted him for what he represented- a threat to their control of the DNC, and it's future. They couldn't care less if he called himself a socialist for 40 years. If the Bern man had Wall Streets blessing, he would have had the DNCs as well.

You and I might both disagree with the tactics, one or both of us might believe some of what they did was possibly even illegal.
Doesn't matter because even if their tactics had been 100% legal, none of it was surprising.
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Younger voters, especially first timers, were very surprised by what happened there. That's why many of them didn't even bother to vote when it came time for the Main Event. By cheating Sanders of his chance to compete, they lost many 18-24 year olds who sat home on November 6.
 
truthatallcost said:
Eh... No sane person or group of people belonging to the same demographic would rejoice at becoming a minority in a country where they've been the majority for 200 years. That would just fly in face of human biology, instinct, and self interest. I know why it's happening, for a complex variety of reasons, but I'm not going to celebrate it like some brain dead neo-Marxist without an ounce of foresight.
Get real man. Where do you see a reconstructionist movement occurring today in America? Or anything remotely similar?
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Not celebrating, I just don't give two ****s.
Reconstructionist: I don't think this term means what YOU think it means.
Christian Reconstructionist Dominionism was founded by Rousas Rushdoony together with Gary North as a spinoff of the Chalcedon Foundation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousas_Rushdoony

The Institutes of Biblical Law, Rushdoony's most well known book, covers several themes that are now mainstream Republican thought.

1. Old Testament law should be applied to modern society and that there should be a Christian theonomy, a concept developed in his colleague Greg Bahnsen's controversial book Theonomy in Christian Ethics, which Rushdoony heartily endorsed. In the Institutes, Rushdoony supported the reinstatement of the Mosaic law's penal sanctions.

2. Although he supported the separation of church and state at the national level, Rushdoony also believed that both institutions were under the rule of God, and thus he conceived secularism as posing endless false dichotomies.

3. Rushdoony believed that a republic is a better form of civil government than a democracy.** According to Rushdoony, a republic avoided mob rule and the rule of the "51%" of society; in other words "might does not make right" in a republic. Rushdoony wrote that America's separation of powers between 3 branches of government is a far more neutral and better method of civil government than a direct democracy, stating "[t]he [American] Constitution was designed to perpetuate a Christian order".
**Of course the notion that democracy represents mob rule is a logical fallacy, as there has never been a pure and direct democracy, even in Ancient Greece, thus ALL democracies function in either a monarchy or a republic anyway. The monarchy is usually a constitutional monarchy with a parliament and a prime minister as head of state. In a constitutional republic, representatives are elected democratically.

But Rushdoony perpetuated the myth that "America is not a democracy" which is parroted by empty-headed yokels every single day now.
They are indeed empty-headed yokels for the simple reason that they do not understand how democracy functions inside a republican government.


truthatallcost said:
Sure Check, in your world there was no Italian box on the census, just a 'Dirty Garlic Eater' box. Alternative facts.

Italians were counted as white on the 1900 census.
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You're the one who tried to imply Italian was different than white, not me.

truthatallcost said:
BTW, this white Christan billionaire set works marvelously well with the white Jewish billionaire set to control about 99% of industry, government, media, finance, etc.
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Ahhh, I bet you lifted that straight out of Henry Ford's "The International Jew", didn't you?


truthatallcost said:
I disagree with your analysis of why the DNC shafted the Bernster. They shafted him for what he represented- a threat to their control of the DNC, and it's future. They couldn't care less if he called himself a socialist for 40 years. If the Bern man had Wall Streets blessing, he would have had the DNCs as well.

Younger voters, especially first timers, were very surprised by what happened there. That's why many of them didn't even bother to vote when it came time for the Main Event. By cheating Sanders of his chance to compete, they lost many 18-24 year olds who sat home on November 6.
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Yeah, a person who insists that they are NOT a Democrat running on the Democratic ticket, that IS a threat to their control of the DNC.
It's a textbook threat whenever ANYONE outside a party insists on running as a member while not being a member.
The party still has to field an official candidate.
And they DID care that he called himself a socialist, even though in REALITY he was just a New Deal liberal Democrat in the mold of FDR ever since he first showed up in Congress.
You just revealed how little you understand about Bernie. I loved the guy but he damaged his own chances.
He could have joined the party in 2010, reshaped it by using his famous crowdfunding and charisma and by 2016 he would have been DRAFTED by the DNC.

The Never Hillarys GOT their choice, it's name is Trump. Stupid is as stupid does.
 
truthatallcost said:
BTW, this white Christan billionaire set works marvelously well with the white Jewish billionaire set to control about 99% of industry, government, media, finance, etc.
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By the way, that same white Christian billionaire sect works equally well with goosestepping fascists, too.
And, they're ready and willing to work equally well with theocratic fascists, too.
Billionaires don't give two ****s what the label is because they are insulated from its effects.
All they know is, secular democracy is both a threat to their lock on power and a tremendous inconvenience, thus billionaires, both Christian, Jewish and otherwise, are frequently in search of alternatives to secular democracy. Secular democracy is difficult for them to control.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Not celebrating, I just don't give two ****s.
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But consider this; worse case scenario, America becomes like South Africa, where whites are openly marked for death for being white, and the government looks the other way. There is no New World for whites to flee to at this point. And while you may be allowed to migrate to Israel, they sure as hell aren't taking me.

Now, I know the worse case scenario I described above isn't going to be a reality in the next 5-10 years, but we're seeing growing hostility on the behalf of minorities against whites, solely based on race. This hostility is encouraged to foment on college campuses and by MSM sources. A declining white population coupled with race baiting Universities and media support is beginning to strike many white Americans as a concerted effort to enact punishment over some ancient bull**** that happened before many of us were alive.

Reconstructionist: I don't think this term means what YOU think it means.
Christian Reconstructionist Dominionism was founded by Rousas Rushdoony together with Gary North as a spinoff of the Chalcedon Foundation.
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Christian Sharia law, in other words. Again, outside of 12 members of the Westboro Baptist Chuch of Bumsville Yokeltown, WHO exactly is pressing for reconstructionism in modern day America? Name names- senators, congressman, think tanks, policy research groups, spokesmen... Anybody please who hasn't been dead for 17 years, like Rushdoony.

The Institutes of Biblical Law, Rushdoony's most well known book, covers several themes that are now mainstream Republican thought.

1. Old Testament law should be applied to modern society and that there should be a Christian theonomy, a concept developed in his colleague Greg Bahnsen's controversial book Theonomy in Christian Ethics, which Rushdoony heartily endorsed. In the Institutes, Rushdoony supported the reinstatement of the Mosaic law's penal sanctions.
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OK...but which legislation has passed and become law that mirrors Mosaic penal sanctions?

2. Although he supported the separation of church and state at the national level, Rushdoony also believed that both institutions were under the rule of God, and thus he conceived secularism as posing endless false dichotomies.
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Well, it does, doesn't it? I often hear from Europeans and Canadians who comment that they've never seen a more divisive First World country than the United States. The unity of spirit seems to be missing. But that's what happens when you cram 330 million people into one country, and tell them all to do their own thing, be individuals, and don't consider the greater society over your own interests.

American law states that government can't promote religion, or favor one religion over others, but the rest of the world doesn't quite work that way. Wherever there's a religious vacuum, it's going to be filled by the dominant religion of the day, and that's Islam in the 21st century. I believe we're seeing this happen in the UK currently, where several thousand Brits are converting to Islam every year, and have no historical or ancestral roots in Islam.

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truthatallcost said:
But consider this; worse case scenario, America becomes like South Africa, where whites are openly marked for death for being white, and the government looks the other way. There is no New World for whites to flee to at this point. And while you may be allowed to migrate to Israel, they sure as hell aren't taking me.

Now, I know the worse case scenario I described above isn't going to be a reality in the next 5-10 years, but we're seeing growing hostility on the behalf of minorities against whites, solely based on race.
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And you had the balls to accuse me of hyperbole.

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truthatallcost said:
So that's it, huh? Laughing cat emotes?
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No, me laughing about you accusing me of hyperbole, AND Felix X3.
I see you dropped your "Then we'll feed them your cooked remains" sig.
You'd have to...your hysterical off your meds post about a global war on white people beats it hands down.

Now, about the Dominionists, ever hear of a guy named Ted Cruz?
He WAS the tip of the spear. That's who the evil-gelicals really wanted.
Clearly they were told they'd better be happy with Trump, and now they believe Trump is going to bring about Armageddon, which they have a boner for.
You can't find any Dominionists?
That's because you haven't gotten off your ass and looked.
That's who leads the Christian Right today.
That's Mike Pence, or did you miss the memo?

The rest of Christendom, including the Vatican, thinks they're fruit loops, but that's who is behind American evangelicalism.
How about you type "dominionists in government" into Google?

Makes for interesting reading.

Oh yeah, PS: My membership in "international jewry" never came through.
One must be Jewish through the maternal side.
My mother was an Italian lady.
I'm a Jew-talian.
 
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