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Religious Bigotry at the New Yorker?

Harshaw said:
This article came right out and said that "traditional Christianity" isn't welcome in New York, that it's a "creepy infiltration," and called upon New Yorkers to stand against it so that it doesn't go any further.
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Muslims have been subjected to worse, and I have been told by numerous Trump supporters, including ones in this forum, that it's on me to fight for my own rights and place America, so why should I feel obligated to assist them? I wouldnt vote for somebody to president who wanted to register a religious group. I am above that, but I really don't think the average right wing Christian is willing to defend Muslims.
 
trblmkr said:
No, they do not discriminate against their employees or their customers. That would affect the cash flow. They just fund those who do.
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Actually, I think those they fund advocate rather than discriminate.
 
jghiretire said:
Except they want you to believe what they believe because hey if you don't?? You're going to hell. Not exactly freedom of religion.
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No. It is exactly freedom of religion. No one is required to believe other religions are going to heaven. We're only required to respect each others' paths to hell.
 
vesper said:
I could post a story like this every week where Christians are being targeted. Heck just a few weeks ago look what VP Pence went through in the media because of his faith being ridiculed and mocked.

Well let me school you all. Keep it up because folks are taking notice and taking names. Between these continuous jabs at those of faith so prominent in the media on a weekly basis and the new poster child for the left, David Hogg calling for gun bans are reminiscent to how Obama describe them in 2008, "cling to their guns and their religion". The left is doing a fine job of motivating those on the right to make darn good and sure Pelosi nor Chucky Schumer never gets leadership in 2018. Those who normally skip the midterms will be dragging their butts to the polls. You can take that to the bank.
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That would make a difference. At this point the right suffers from an enthusiasm deficit.
 
Vadinho said:
I refuse to eat there. I have no interest in supporting a family that tries to discriminate against gays. Sorry, there are other places to eat fast food junk.
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Do you know a good Jewish restaurant where I can get a pork chop sandwhich on rye?
 
SheWolf said:
Muslims have been subjected to worse, and I have been told by numerous Trump supporters, including ones in this forum, that it's on me to fight for my own rights and place America, so why should I feel obligated to assist them? I wouldnt vote for somebody to president who wanted to register a religious group. I am above that, but I really don't think the average right wing Christian is willing to defend Muslims.
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No one asked you to do anything.
 
Harshaw said:
This article came right out and said that "traditional Christianity" isn't welcome in New York, that it's a "creepy infiltration," and called upon New Yorkers to stand against it so that it doesn't go any further.
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That's one person's opinion, nothing more. If that were a generally accepted position, there would be a lot fewer Christian churches there.
 
Dittohead not! said:
That's one person's opinion, nothing more. If that were a generally accepted position, there would be a lot fewer Christian churches there.
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Well, I doubt he's the only one who holds the opinion, but regardless, I didn't say it was anything other than that. But it is what it is, and what it is is an article which says that "traditional Christianity" isn't welcome in New York, that it's "creepy infiltration, and a call to New Yorkers to stand against it so it doesn't go any further, which is perfectly germane to the post I was quoting.
 
Yeah I brought this up in another thread.. Why do Conservatives excuse Limbaugh, Fox and Hannity's controversial stances as only opinions and entertainment, but they look at other media outlets opinion pieces as fact and 'hard news'?

This was ONE guys opinion piece? Why with Conservatives does it carry more weight than the million stupid, bigoted, hateful things the Limbaughs, Hannitys and Ingrams say daily?
 
Jack Hays said:
That would make a difference. At this point the right suffers from an enthusiasm deficit.
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Trust me, the thought of Pelosi or Schumer in flyover country is enough to motivate the masses. The talk of gun bans and hits on people's religious beliefs just solidifies it.
 
Jack Hays said:
Then what in the world are you going on about?
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When a religious faith, sect, group, or whatever you want to define them as, has complete control of the government. They are fair game for non-violent attacks. And, they have no standing when pretending to be victims.
 
vesper said:
Trust me, the thought of Pelosi or Schumer in flyover country is enough to motivate the masses. The talk of gun bans and hits on people's religious beliefs just solidifies it.
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Yeah, not too many thinkers live between the Appalachians and Rockies.
 
Jack Hays said:
Actually, I think those they fund advocate rather than discriminate.
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You are splitting hairs Jack. They advocate for legislation that would, in some cases, allow them to discriminate. I understand they feel that their way of life is under attack. But it is not. They are always free to practice their religion in the home, in the church, in a park, pretty much everywhere but my house and in a public business.
 
calamity said:
When a religious faith, sect, group, or whatever you want to define them as, has complete control of the government. They are fair game for non-violent attacks. And, they have no standing when pretending to be victims.
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Sorry, but I think that's BS. Regardless of who holds what office, people are entitled to be treated with respect.
 
trblmkr said:
You are splitting hairs Jack. They advocate for legislation that would, in some cases, allow them to discriminate. I understand they feel that their way of life is under attack. But it is not. They are always free to practice their religion in the home, in the church, in a park, pretty much everywhere but my house and in a public business.
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It is the opposite of splitting hairs. Advocacy is the exercise of constitutionally protected freedom. Discrimination is the illegal denial of that freedom.
 
Jack Hays said:
It is the opposite of splitting hairs. Advocacy is the exercise of constitutionally protected freedom. Discrimination is the illegal denial of that freedom.
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Discrimination only applies to "protected" groups.
 
Vadinho said:
I refuse to eat there. I have no interest in supporting a family that tries to discriminate against gays. Sorry, there are other places to eat fast food junk.
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I've never eaten at Chick Fil A, and until this article had no idea they were controversial. A long long time ago I swore off ever eating pizza at Domino's because they supported Operation Rescue, refused to buy Coor's products because of their support of right wing causes and the Heritage Foundation, and don't shop at Walmart because they have put so many small businesses out of business. So we can all choose where to shop, and seeing this support for anti-gay legislation from Chick Fil A, they are on my list also. Nothing to do with being anti-Christian, just I see no reason to support companies that work against issues I feel strongly about.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
Absolutely, criticize Islam and you are automatically an "Islamaphobic bigot".
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Criticize Islam on their practices and you're considered a bigot not just on the religion but on the things they actually do.

So honestly what I take this as is anyone that tells you you're a bigot because you say something that's factual keep in mind it's because you're saying something that is factual and it goes against a narrative.
 
Jack Hays said:
I am a long time subscriber to New Yorker magazine. I have even entered their caption contest a couple of times. I was nonetheless troubled by a recent hit piece on Chick-Fil-A in the magazine. The author basically says the fast food chain is too Christian to be in New York. For the record, I'm religiously agnostic and I like a Chick-Fil-A sandwich now and then. Seems to me New Yorker has indulged bigotry in this case. Here is the article in question, along with a critique from the Washington Examiner.

Chick-Fil-A's Creepy Infiltration of New York City
Dan Piepenbring, The New Yorker

. . . New York has taken to Chick-fil-A. One of the Manhattan locations estimates that it sells a sandwich every six seconds, and the company has announced plans to open as many as a dozen more storefronts in the city. And yet the brand’s arrival here feels like an infiltration, in no small part because of its pervasive Christian traditionalism. Its headquarters, in Atlanta, are adorned with Bible verses and a statue of Jesus washing a disciple’s feet. Its stores close on Sundays. Its C.E.O., Dan Cathy, has been accused of bigotry for using the company's charitable wing to fund anti-gay causes, including groups that oppose same-sex marriage. “We’re inviting God’s judgment on our nation,” he once said, “when we shake our fist at him and say, ‘We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage.’ ” The company has since reaffirmed its intention to “treat every person with honor, dignity and respect,” but it has quietly continued to donate to anti-L.G.B.T. groups. When the first stand-alone New York location opened, in 2015, a throng of protesters appeared. When a location opened in a Queens mall, in 2016, Mayor Bill de Blasio proposed a boycott. No such controversy greeted the opening of this newest outpost. Chick-fil-A’s success here is a marketing coup. Its expansion raises questions about what we expect from our fast food, and to what extent a corporation can join a community. . . .


The New Yorker's Bigoted, Intolerant Attack
Jenna Ellis, Washington Examiner

I was honestly astounded the New Yorker actually printed Dan Piepenbring’s bigoted and downright ignorant attack piece Friday titled “Chick-Fil-A’s Creepy Infiltration of New York City.”
If we want to have a good-natured debate on Chick-fil-A versus Wendy’s based solely on personal preference, I’m all for that. That's capitalism at its finest. But Piepenbring’s piece objected to the supposed “infiltration” of Chick-fil-A on the basis of its owners' religious beliefs.
Consider the overt bigotry of this headline statement: Chick-fil-A’s “emphasis on community…suggests an ulterior motive. The restaurant’s corporate purpose begins with the words ‘to glorify God,’ and that proselytism thrums below the surface of its new Fulton Street restaurant, which has the ersatz homespun ambiance of a megachurch.”. . .
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What a standard liberal nonsense trope, here's an idea, a business can join any community it wants and if the community doesn't want them they won't spend dollars there and thusly the business will go out of business, if enough dollars are spent to keep them in business then they stay, end story.
 
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