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Gun control? London’s Muslim Mayor Sadiq Khan bans knives[W:58]

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soylentgreen said:
Of course american do believe they have a right to kill.

I have seen posts in other thread of people saying they will kill a person merely for walking on their property. Regardless of whether the person is walking towards or away from them.

Your police certainly have demonstrated that they believe it is their right to kill any who they think is an offender.

Your pro gun group here often argue the right to kill with a gun. They claim self defense of course but are very indistinct as to what constitutes self defense.
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Melodrama much? Must go with the sheeple mentality.
 
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How many would-be knife assailants will suddenly throw away their lives to adhere to this law? As if they adhered to the "don't stab anybody" law already on the books.

Liberal logic is astonishing.
 
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Feels like trying to explain sex to a virgin.


Oh well... "may your chains rest lightly" and so forth...
 
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soylentgreen said:
It seems sensible to me.
I see no reason for people to carry what are obviously weapons. I use to carry a small pocket knife which came in handy when i lived in the country. Now i live in a town and have no need to carry such a device.
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Would that include car keys? First thing I taught my daughter when she started driving was how to take out a attackers eye with the car key..

There are not many things that can't be made into a weapon. pencil, pen, hell, a butter knife can do a lot of damage when used properly.

Since England is the location, Do some research of the crime they have. Watch the netflix series "caught on Camera". they basically have 1 cctv camera per every 4 people to monitor the streets, etc..

djl
 
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bmr528 said:
Would that include car keys? First thing I taught my daughter when she started driving was how to take out a attackers eye with the car key..

There are not many things that can't be made into a weapon. pencil, pen, hell, a butter knife can do a lot of damage when used properly.

Since England is the location, Do some research of the crime they have. Watch the netflix series "caught on Camera". they basically have 1 cctv camera per every 4 people to monitor the streets, etc..

djl
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That's a good documentary. The amount and types of crime are shocking. Me thinks they have a wee bit of a problem with alcohol and immigrants.
 
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Well, I guess these guys have to start their caliphate in a major city somewhere, so why not London? Soon, it'll be word control, probably in the form of Sharia Law (or something similar to it).
 
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Moderator's Warning:
There is some baiting going on, it needs to stop now. Stick to the topic and leave each other out of it.
 
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notquiteright said:
For starters the title lists the religion of the Mayor... :roll:
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So?

notquiteright said:
Apparently no shortage to you are a few people, it would be like me claiming there is no shortage of people ready to end same sex marriage- the teeny tiny few do more FOR the rabid 'gun' rubbers than anything against them.... :roll:
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Again, there is a huge difference between "a few people" which is three and a majority. As for this "gun rubbers" childishness, what is wrong with you?

notquiteright said:
Oh there are numerous reports and quotes about the right wing being in desperate search mode for anything to drive up the fear before the mid terms.
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Your failure to quote them is noted.

notquiteright said:
Point to where I defended any such law??? :roll:
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Point to where I claimed you did, I said that all you have are childish insults BECAUSE these laws are indefensible. That said:

notquiteright said:
You comment on a country you don't have any real knowledge of, their murder rate is far below ours so there's that... ;)

What you don't know could fill a canyon but that's off topic....

What I've seen is most I work/shop/hang out with DON'T carry pocket knives- I'm a real minority in that... a 15 year old clip Gerber.

I didn't know there needed to be a 'massive problem' with stabbings before something needs to be done. But that dodges the biggest difference between the UK and here- firearms are soooo much easier to get in the good ol' USofA and we tend to go the easiest route and stabbing can be sooo much work... :peace
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Too easy.

notquiteright said:
The well was a poisonous sulfur well before I got here...
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Wrong, but whatever you have to tell yourself to justify your toxic, childish, insulting hatred. You're not even denying mindfully being a ****, you're actually justifying it. There is no helping someone who aims to be malicious.
 
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JoeTrumps said:
if you allow your own government to disarm you to the point you can't have anything more dangerous than a fork or butter knife then there are two possibilities:

1. you have faith in that government to an almost terrifying degree(presuming you have ever picked up a history book).
2. you are a total idiot.

there can be no other conclusions to make.
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Huh. Those are the same things that make people support the death penalty.
 
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JacksinPA said:
I carry a gravity knife & a center punch in my car, not for defense or offense, but for emergency escape after an accident when things like power windows no longer work.
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What's the centre punch for? Can you break auto glass with one?
 
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Spartacus FPV said:
Perhaps he is a consumer who often opens boxes? Most people don't realize how useful a knife can be until they start to carry one, then they find themselves using it all the time.

Shopping and have to tie something to the roof but can't cut the cordage? Bam. Got a letter? Letteropener, bam. Got into a fender bender and your old bumber is interfering with the wheel and you need to cut part of it off? Bam.



You have no need for some tool, so you have no problem with banning it for the people who do?

A bit like banning free speech because you have nothing to say, no?

Now a knife is a "device"?
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This is nothing more than bull**** exaggeration. No one is asking a letter opener to banned or saying that a useful tool should be banned.

You are the waste of time and effort that stops any sensible discussion of guns because all you will ever do is make up really stupid ways of doing things and then patting yourself on the back for pointing how stupid they are.

Yours is nothing more than creating absurdum fallacies and wasting our time with them.
 
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notquiteright said:
You comment on a country you don't have any real knowledge of, their murder rate is far below ours so there's that... ;)

What you don't know could fill a canyon but that's off topic....

What I've seen is most I work/shop/hang out with DON'T carry pocket knives- I'm a real minority in that... a 15 year old clip Gerber.

I didn't know there needed to be a 'massive problem' with stabbings before something needs to be done. But that dodges the biggest difference between the UK and here- firearms are soooo much easier to get in the good ol' USofA and we tend to go the easiest route and stabbing can be sooo much work... :peace
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True enough...Ive only spent around 4 years in the UK and dont pretend to be an expert on all things England. I DO know what is going on in London and I know why its happening, and I know their idiotic measures to ban knives is stupid as ****, just as I know the ****ing morons that support such measures are the same types of people that willingly and willfully sell out their rights like good little subjects. Some do it just because they are stupid ****ers and cant see how it can possibly come back to bite them in the ass. Some do it because they are cowards and appeasers. Frankly, I dont have much time for stupid ****s like that. And lord knows, its not just a problem the UK has. We have plenty of those worthless ****s in this country.
 
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JoeTrumps said:
if you allow your own government to disarm you to the point you can't have anything more dangerous than a fork or butter knife then there are two possibilities:

1. you have faith in that government to an almost terrifying degree(presuming you have ever picked up a history book).
2. you are a total idiot.

there can be no other conclusions to make.
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I am not arguing for disarmament. In fact i would argue that the gun has no part in this discussion at all. This is about social issues not about owing guns.

But once again i am faced with someone who will probably do nothing more than keep shouting your trying to ban guns.
 
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Gaius46 said:
Based on one of the earlier posts it looks mostly like switchblades, gravity knives, balisongs and the like. Personally I don't think any of those should be illegal - they are in NY mostly because 50s gang hysteria - but it doesn't look like they're talking about pocket knives and multitools
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There is literally an effort ongoing in the UK to ban knives with points.
 
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VanceMack said:
:lamo I dont need to justify anything. Thats the difference between us. You feel like a subject HAVING to justify your rights and freedoms. Thats...sad.

I quite agree. There ARE Social issues causing problems, not guns and knives. And yet, there you are, stomping about like a tough wee man doing your best to insult Americans over guns.

You have a wee problem.
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I do not have to do my best to insult americans they do that themselves with their ridiculous arguments.

And yes when americans think that a right to a gun is also a right to kill with that gun then you do need to start justifying what your rights really are.
 
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Spartacus FPV said:
Yet you've utterly failed to do so. If you need a justification to exercise a right, its not a right its a privilege at best.

The only desperate justifications I see are yours in defense of these senseless prohibitions. You're so bass ackwards you actually think the right to keep and bear arms = a right to kill, guess what, it isn't. Also, no one is justifying guns, we defend the right to own one, which implies so much more than mere ownership of one type of tool. But you being a subject, to your core, rather than a free person, will likely never understand that.
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Care to point out where i have said anything about prohibition on guns.

That is the pro gun whinging not anything i have said.

I do understand that a right to own a gun is not a right to kill. But many americans obviously do not. That point i have already made quite clear.

And again care to point out where i have ever questioned the right to own a gun. I have questioned the americans belief that stupidity is a right and that some are determined to push that right to its fullest extent with a gun.

In all just another post where nothing more is done but some american whinging that they want to take his gun away from him.
 
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soylentgreen said:
I do not have to do my best to insult americans they do that themselves with their ridiculous arguments.

And yes when americans think that a right to a gun is also a right to kill with that gun then you do need to start justifying what your rights really are.
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I'm sorry...who are you and what country that I LITERALLY dont give a **** about are you from and why do you think I or anyone from this country needs to justify ANYTHING?

Again...the difference between living as a free man and a subject is something you and I wont ever agree on.
 
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soylentgreen said:
I do not have to do my best to insult americans they do that themselves with their ridiculous arguments.

And yes when americans think that a right to a gun is also a right to kill with that gun then you do need to start justifying what your rights really are.
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The right to self defense is pretty widely recognized. I suppose you can call killing someone with a firearm in a legitimate of self defense "the right to kill" but that's incredibly simplistic.
 
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VanceMack said:
There is literally an effort ongoing in the UK to ban knives with points.
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Stupidity.

As if slashing wasn't an effective way to use a knife. And besides points are hugely useful for prying things open.
 
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Gaius46 said:
Based on one of the earlier posts it looks mostly like switchblades, gravity knives, balisongs and the like. Personally I don't think any of those should be illegal - they are in NY mostly because 50s gang hysteria - but it doesn't look like they're talking about pocket knives and multitools
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Ive seen some silly and ridiculous looking knives in the US. The Post Exchanges usually has some guy selling them, along with knock off 'Samurai swords'. DOnt know that I see too many people running around stabbing each other with them.

They are changing their definitions of 'flick blades (switchblades) to an open description that can literally include ANY assisted open knife.
 
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Erod said:
Then why does London have more violent crime than New York City now?
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Cause england is a really ****ed up place at the moment. The disparity between the rich and the poor which is one of the main causes of crime is greater now than at most other times.
There hospitals are falling apart . There prisons are maxed out and offer nothing more than an opportunity to join a gang. The police are underpaid and over worked. Social welfare is breaking down because the staff are all stressed from abuse.
Kids are dropping out of school without an education or any job opportunities.

It has nothing to do with guns or knives except that they are a means to violence, not a cause.

The banning is nothing more than a desperate government trying to look tough and making appeasement. Because they lack the means to fix any of these real problems.
 
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NonoBadDog said:
Where is this "right to kill" in the Constitution? I wanna see it. I have a neighbor that just pisses me of and I have Constitutional rights. Show me where this right is.
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Nowhere. Yet that does not stop anyone from acting as if they have that right. A right to act stupidly is also not in the constitution but stupidity with a gun still happens anyway.

After all look at your comment here. A right to say something stupid is definitely being enacted.
 
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NonoBadDog said:
Melodrama much? Must go with the sheeple mentality.
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Pointing out what actually occurs is melodrama?

Yuor really pushing the stupidity is a right thing.
 
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