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Trump To Announce Most Corrupt & Dishonest Media Award Next Week

And yet you object to the president using the bully pulpit calling out that bias. Hmm.
Trump is only attacking the media because he doesnt like what they have to say about him. It is a personal thing for him. Not something that president should be doing at all.



Is it your position or opinion that the media isn't working on a daily basis to marginalize and de-legitimize a legitimately elected president?

That is a very broad assertion. How can anyone with an ounce of intelligence agree or disagree with something so broad?
 
Trump is only attacking the media because he doesnt like what they have to say about him. It is a personal thing for him. Not something that president should be doing at all.





That is a very broad assertion. How can anyone with an ounce of intelligence agree or disagree with something so broad?

Observing the media's behavior in the last 48 hours its hard to imagine that they aren't.

The media needs to be reigned in, as per my previous comments. Trump, I think, it calling out the obvious, and little more.
Not sure that it matters all that much what his motivation to do so is.
 
The media needs to be reigned in.

A disturbing thing for an average citizen to believe needs to be done because the President doesn't like what's being said about him.

The fact is, the President made perfectly clear during the campaign, that anything negative about him should be considered fake by his supporters, anything and everything and you want to have that media "reigned in".

Dangerous sentiment for average citizens to be having.
 
A disturbing thing for an average citizen to believe needs to be done because the President doesn't like what's being said about him.

The fact is, the President made perfectly clear during the campaign, that anything negative about him should be considered fake by his supporters, anything and everything and you want to have that media "reigned in".

Dangerous sentiment for average citizens to be having.

I think that many in the electorate can identify which is legitimate criticism of Trump, and that which isn't.
Why else would the media's credibility and trust poll results go down, continue to go down?

There's good Trump, when he advances the agenda that elected him.
And there's bad Trump, when he fails to advance, or retards, the agenda that elected him, such as stupid twitter slap fights, or when he shoots his own administration's message in the feet with something stupid.

When Trump is being good Trump, he deserves accolades.
When Trump is being bad Trump, he deserves criticism.

Criticism of the public policy agenda that elected him is separate from Trump and his administration and their performance.

The media appears to be ignoring when Trump is good, or when there is something positive to report about the Trump administration, and have instead decided to only focus on the bad Trump, and, at times, make **** up (spin, worst possible interpretation, anonymous single source leaks without even basic verification, fauxrage, etc. etc.) if they don't have enough negative stories to report.

That which is labeled 'fake news' isn't the legitimate criticism, it is the spin, worst possible interpretation, anonymous single source leaks without even basic verification type coverage. Those who take offense at Trump calling out the 'fake news' seem to get the two mixed up, legitimate criticism and the other. Perhaps its politically convenient for them, or serves their confirmation bias.

Suffice it to say that this extreme version of media bias could easily and legitimately be called journalistic malpractice, as it doesn't serve inform the electorate, it misleads them and manipulates them, it doesn't serve to speak truth to power, nor does it hold elected officials and the government accountable. Instead, all it serves is to de-legitimize and marginalize a legitimately elected president and his administration.

This should give you as much, or even more, pause concern than your observation of the average citizen holding the opinion that the media needs to be reigned in.

The media needs to get out of the business of 'fake news', as defined above, and back into the real news.

I seem to recall when Trump had that hour long press conference, fielding every question, where he stated that he was willing to take legitimate criticism. The only question that I have, has legitimate criticism from the press been attacked by Trump as 'fake news'? (Of course it would depend on what one would consider legitimate criticism, I suppose).
 
There is a difference between legitimate criticism (of the government) and the political propaganda currently being delivered by the 'news' media outlets.

Who gets to decide that difference? :)
 
People who agree with your views, of course.

I was hoping he'd say something like 'I do'. Which would have segwayed into a long exchange with him trying to justify why the populace shouldn't be presented with views of all kinds, including propaganda he says exists, and then decide for itself what is true or no. However, given my history of pummeling young eohrnberger's political views in the arena of free speech, I don't think he'll be returning.
 
Who gets to decide that difference? :)

Pretty easy, really.

Single source, anonymous reports without independent validation and without independent verification need to be validated and verified before being reported or shared on social media as 'news'.

You have to ask yourself, did Woodward and Bernstein go to press with the first installment of information from deep throat? Don't think they did.
 
Pretty easy, really.

Single source, anonymous reports without independent validation and without independent verification need to be validated and verified before being reported or shared on social media as 'news'.

You have to ask yourself, did Woodward and Bernstein go to press with the first installment of information from deep throat? Don't think they did.

Neither did they reveal the identity of their anonymous source either.
 
Neither did they reveal the identity of their anonymous source either.

Nice try, but I did not specify that journalists were required to reveal their sources.

Woodward and Bernstein did their validations and verifications, to make sure their story was true and accurate.
Something that the current journalists seem to be skipping over, especially if its a salacious negative story about Trump.

Remember, Trump feeding the Koi in Japan? What a joke that was, or rather, what a joke the 'news' outlet made of itself.
 
Nice try, but I did not specify that journalists were required to reveal their sources.

Woodward and Bernstein did their validations and verifications, to make sure their story was true and accurate.
Something that the current journalists seem to be skipping over, especially if its a salacious negative story about Trump.

Remember, Trump feeding the Koi in Japan? What a joke that was, or rather, what a joke the 'news' outlet made of itself.

I don’t see journalists failing to do their jobs.
 
I don’t see journalists failing to do their jobs.

So the single anonymous source stories that create great commotion and fauxrage and then turn out to be debunked, that's an example of journalists doing their jobs? Informing the electorate? Or rather manipulating the electorate?
 
Pretty easy, really.

Single source, anonymous reports without independent validation and without independent verification need to be validated and verified before being reported or shared on social media as 'news'.

So you get to decide the difference. What if I want to set up my own business and decide how news reports get to be put out?
 
Trump was tweeting all day today and this just popped up on my twitter feed. I mean, does anyone really care? We all know the ones he thinks are bad. Is it going to be any different than his petty attacks on CNN, Washington Post etc??? Doesn't he have real work to do?



This is not a freaking TV show you douche-bag!!!!

The "stay tuned" comment is just a teaser to keep his audience glued to the TV/internet awaiting the next instalment of his reality TV show, "The White House."
 
Weren’t we talking about the media.
I personally don’t think Trump lied.
We can agree to disagree, but shouldn’t we all want a unbiased media, we need to trust our news sources don’t we.


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You actually don't think Trump has lied. Have you seen the Hawaii evidence on Obama? Have you seen the news reports from Jersey about Muslims celebrating 9/11? Can you explain how Trumps electoral college victory was the greatest since whenever?
Didn't you see him shoot that guy on 5th Avenue?
 
Observing the media's behavior in the last 48 hours its hard to imagine that they aren't.

The media needs to be reigned in, as per my previous comments. Trump, I think, it calling out the obvious, and little more.
Not sure that it matters all that much what his motivation to do so is.

Being "reigned in" may be a Freudian slip....;)
 
So you get to decide the difference.

I didn't make that claim either.

What if I want to set up my own business and decide how news reports get to be put out?

You can chose the 'how' to put they out any which way you want. Ideally I'd prefer the news to be factual, validated and verified. Too much to ask?
 
Being "reigned in" may be a Freudian slip....;)

Hmm.

[h=3]Rein or reign? - OxfordWords blog[/h]https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2012/03/26/rein-or-reign/
Mar 26, 2012 - Similarly, the verb rein means 'control a horse by pulling on the reins': √ He reined his horse to a halt. and has an additional figurative sense, usually seen with the adverbs 'in' and 'back', of 'keep someone or something under control': √ He is one of those actors that need a strong director to rein him in.

I do believe the usage is correct. Or what were you thinking?
 
I hope he follows through by revoking press access to the White House. CNN's presence disgraces journalism.

See this is the problem - you want to get rid of free speech. But you don't want a dictator???
 
The fact that DJT is a lying jackass does not mean the media are virtuous and honest.

[h=2]Fake News Media: Would you like the hole truth or fake mud with that?[/h]
The decrepit legacy media is now so low there are competing stories in the same week discussing which form of decay is the worst.
Is it that the media suppresses the good news, or that it amplifies the bad — throwing fake mud that is never cleaned up? It’s two sides of the same corrupt, self serving coin. Pass on these links to friends who think the legacy media still has journalists with , a) a backbone or b) ethics.
[h=3]Suppressing the Good News is the media’s dirtiest tactic[/h]Steve Sheldon
Here are headlines you won’t read in almost any major American newspaper, hear on any of the evening news programs, or see in your Yahoo “news” feed:
Dow Hits 87 Record Closes Since Trump Elected
Texas Hero Was NRA Instructor
Dow Reaches Four 1,000 Point Milestones in One Year for the First Time Ever
ISIS on the Run, Almost Completely Destroyed
New Home Sales Highest in a Decade
Texas Hero Uses AR-15 to Save the Day
Dow Hits Two Streaks Lasting More Than Ten Days, First Time Since 1959
Trump Donates One Million Dollars of His Own Money to Hurricane Victims
U.S. Economy Gains Over Six Trillion in New Capital
U.S. Senator Viciously Attacked by Deranged Socialist Neighbor
U.S. Economy Grows at 3% for First Time Since Bush Administration
Unemployment Rate Lowest in 17 Years
h/t David E.
[h=2]Smear: Toss enough fake mud and make anything dirty[/h]Sharyl Attkinson describes the abject decay of journalistic ethics as opinions become fake facts, and mistakes are rarely corrected. A Prager video. Thanks to MichaelSmith news. “Why no one trusts the mainstream media anymore

A grateful nation thanks Obama for bringing this about.
 
Wouldn’t you like to know which MSM is the most dishonest,or will you bash Trump for pointing them out


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It's not like it's going to be an honest contest now is it?? Certainly not from the liar in chief.
 
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