The Media Bias Chart

JMR said:

Did I say that? I didn't realize it was confusing. If a journalist reveals the source who is giving them otherwise unknown information, that source might be cut off from said information. Then the journalist wouldn't have a source.....

Don't ya think so?

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The again, how can anyone judge the integrity (or bias) of an unknown source "close to the White House"? BTW, is that not just the description of any random person in DC?

JMR said:

Did I say that? I didn't realize it was confusing. If a journalist reveals the source who is giving them otherwise unknown information, that source might be cut off from said information. Then the journalist wouldn't have a source.....

Don't ya think so?

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To some degree, yes.

JMR said:

No still sucks. You've got NYT Washington Post & CNN wrong. They lean left. Reuters, AP, CBS are definitely center. Keep working on it

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Sorry, but I call them as I see them...

After a year of solid Trump bashing and several bogus hit pieces on the president, I find it hard to believe you think CNN's position on that chart isn't correct.

The NY Times news definitely skews left, while their editorial pages are dominated by leftist opinion.
The WP news is center-left and their editorial pages have a leftist bias, but not to the same degree as the NY Times.
As for the other 3 you mentioned, they are all left leaning and have been for decades.

Grim17 said:

Sorry, but I call them as I see them...

After a year of solid Trump bashing and several bogus hit pieces on the president, I find it hard to believe you think CNN's position on that chart isn't correct.

The NY Times news definitely skews left, while their editorial pages are dominated by leftist opinion.
The WP news is center-left and their editorial pages have a leftist bias, but not to the same degree as the NY Times.
As for the other 3 you mentioned, they are all left leaning and have been for decades.

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The Washington Post, NYT and CNN lean left...they do not report with a liberal bias.
The AP and Reuters are definitely center....they have both been judged "least biased" of all media.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/reuters/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/

I know the right loves to feel that the mean media does not represent them. Maybe that's the fault of the right and not the media? You got a tilted view, jmo So I stand with my statement your chart needs more work.

But I appreciate you're taking the time to make a chart, and express a coherent thought...unlike some other things I see posted here.

Rogue Valley said:

The Chart, Version 3.0: What, Exactly, Are We Reading?

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Came across a page with chart-modeling of media bias by patent attorney Vanessa Otero (@vlotero). At the link above, she explains her chart methodology.

Related: The Viral Media Graphic (with special thanks to Vanessa Otero)

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Id say overall not bad at all. Of course I dont agree with all of it but its "OK"

the one issue I have is the yellow block seems to contradict itself. As far as what it covers left to right shouldint it stop at the "hyper-partisan" lines the same the green black does? if it did that I think it would be even better.

CNN should move a half block left

MSNBC should move a half block left and a block down
Daily KOS should move a block down

and of course there are quite a few I dont know


If I was gonna make my own GENERAL chart for "MAIN STREAM" I put Fox on the furthest right block and MSNBC on the furthest left Block and figure out where the rest fit inbewtween. LOL

The onlt dispute I have of this chart is the placing of CNN only slightly left. I would have agreed with the positioning before Trump became POTUS. But ever since, they've been on a rampage that has sickened me. They've declared war on Trump and are attempting to destroy him and his presidency. The reporting is so biased that I refuse to turn to their channel anymore.

Buzz62 said:

The onlt dispute I have of this chart is the placing of CNN only slightly left. I would have agreed with the positioning before Trump became POTUS. But ever since, they've been on a rampage that has sickened me. They've declared war on Trump and are attempting to destroy him and his presidency. The reporting is so biased that I refuse to turn to their channel anymore.

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That's because you moved to the right. Not because CNN moved to the left.

Gaea said:

That's because you moved to the right. Not because CNN moved to the left.

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No its not. Its because I don't like CNN's blatant bias and use of half-truths.
I don't watch or give any credence to FOX either, since they spent 8 years roasting Obama unfairly.
You people can, and likely will, continue with your polarized identity politics, but its end result will be chaos.

Buzz62 said:

No its not. Its because I don't like CNN's blatant bias and use of half-truths.
I don't watch or give any credence to FOX either, since they spent 8 years roasting Obama unfairly.
You people can, and likely will, continue with your polarized identity politics, but its end result will be chaos.

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OK - I'll bite:

Give me a quote from this article which demonstrates CNN's "blatant bias":
Paul Ryan backed Nunes in spat with Justice Department over Russia documents, sources say - CNNPolitics

faithful_servant said:

Just the fact that MSNBC fell into the "Fair interpretations of the news" category should throw up a red flag for anyone with even an ounce objectivity. MSNBC has been shown over and over again to be horrifically biased.

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AGAIN - the worst mistake you can make is to look at what they say that you don't like or don't agree with, and then apply that to everything they say. MSNBC's not going to be right with everything...and yes, they have some bias. However, any reputable fact-checking organization is going to show that Fox gets MUCH more wrong, if for no other reason than that they find themselves having to defend Trump's daily dump of inaccuracies and outright lies. Look at Shep Smith - when he points out that Trump lied about this or that, he gets excoriated by many on the far right for essentially doing his job.

BUT just because Fox gets so much wrong and is every bit as biased as MSNBC ever was, I do not assume that everything they say is biased or false...because - like MSNBC - Fox does do some good, quality reporting. No one should make broad-brush assumptions about either one.

But in the interest of full disclosure, there is one right-wing media organization that I do assume is false and maliciously biased in pretty much everything it puts online or on the air: Infowars. Come to think of it, Trump did speak glowingly of Alex Jones' journalistic reputation....

Rogue Valley said:

I do agree about Natural News tough. A combo rightist-CT site. Don't know how that got placed where it is.

But one misplaced item doesn't nullify every placement (the association fallacy). I think overall, it's pretty fair and mostly spot-on.

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I agree with most of it as well. The only thing that I saw that seemed way off was how the National Enquirer was dead center between Right and Left. Anybody who has ever stood in line at the supermarket, and saw the covers from the Enquirer would know that they slant hard to the right. At least while Trump is in office. Once, I even wondered if he might own it, because it was so pro-Trump, anti-Obama and anti-Hillary. But then I realized I truly didn't care enough to do the research. :shrug:

Mycroft said:

Tough.

Without sources, nobody believes you.

Heck, how many people here at DP post something...without a source..."I heard on TV...", only to get shot down by their fellow forum members. WE don't believe each other when we do this. Why would anyone believe the Mainstream Media when THEY do it?

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Because we wouldn't be fired, blackballed and ostracized if we posted bull****. We'd just be made fun of.

Jetboogieman said:

Isn't that a bit of a strange thing for a birther to say?

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:lol: :lol:

Buzz62 said:

The onlt dispute I have of this chart is the placing of CNN only slightly left. I would have agreed with the positioning before Trump became POTUS. But ever since, they've been on a rampage that has sickened me. They've declared war on Trump and are attempting to destroy him and his presidency. The reporting is so biased that I refuse to turn to their channel anymore.

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Trump is doing a good job of destroying himself and his presidency. He doesn't need the media to do it for him.

All they do is report what he is doing.

You can't shoot the messenger, no matter how much you dislike the message.

Superfly said:

Because we wouldn't be fired, blackballed and ostracized if we posted bull****. We'd just be made fun of.

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Nobody in the Mainstream Media has any of that happening to them when THEY post BS (and they post a LOT of BS)...and they don't care if people make fun of them. They just keep doing it.