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If Nice Guys Finish Last, Why Not Elect a Big Meanie?

RAMOSS said:
On the other hand, he was an idiot. That worthless subway cost much money ,and did nothing for the economy, shut down businesses up and down main street, and generally is stupid.
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First of all, the subway was in the works during the Makowski admin. And I agree, it was a colossal waste. but the business exodus started when the Kensington and the I-190 opened up.
 
SoulFire77 said:
God forbid we stop emasculating the American male, and give him a "roll model" that knows how to take charge of things.
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Trump is not a take-charge leader, he is a manipulative salesman. Trump tells stupid people what they want to hear, but he is disastrously bad at taking charge of things. He has no idea how to solve problems he just has enough money to higher people that do no how to solve problems and hopes they'll do it for him. But since he doesn't know how to actually solve the problem he doesn't know who to hire.

SoulFire77 said:
Trump has 150 business partners in 25 countries. He was having meals with dignitaries long before January of this year.
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Donald Trump was handed a million dollars by his daddy. If I was given a million dollars back in the 70's, I guarentee you I'd be a billionaire by now with a lot more influence than Trump, and no bankruptcies.

SoulFire77 said:
The idea that he "lacks people skills" is a Lefty daydream - one that you seem to be having.

Wake up.
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Nobody is saying he lacks people skills. What we're telling you is that his only real talent is his ability to manipulate stupid people with lies. Manipulating people with lies is classic sociopathic behavior. Many sociopaths have enjoyed great success in life despite not being actually compitant at anything other than confidentally projecting compitance long enough to convince stupid people they can back up their lies. By the time you figure out how full of **** they are it's too late.
 
MrWonka said:
He has no idea how to solve problems he just has enough money to (hire) people that do (know) how to solve problems and hopes they'll do it for him.
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Dude, you just described every single CEO of every corporation on the planet, not to mention every leader of every country on Earth since the beginning of time.
 
SoulFire77 said:
Why is there such an insistence that the POTUS be "nice," or act "politically correct." Does anyone really care about that, when you risk breaking an ankle every time you go outside... from tripping over all of the "Now Hiring" signs?
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I agree with you, people in politics sugarcoat their meanings so they can overreact when they get a warranted response in an attempt to bring people to their side. It didn't work for Clinton because people like the bluntness of Trump. Not everyone has the ability to understand political jargon nor the reasons situations are tense even though both people are talking "politely" to each other. At least with the president, his intentions are immediately known and he keeps us updated more than any other president.
 
SoulFire77 said:
Why is there such an insistence that the POTUS be "nice," or act "politically correct." Does anyone really care about that, when you risk breaking an ankle every time you go outside... from tripping over all of the "Now Hiring" signs?
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Do you actually believe that anyone can win the presidency without being incredibly ambitious and ruthless? The politicians at that level have a superhuman ability to appear to be relating to you... just you.. all 300 million of just you.

Nice? Hardly. I'd prefer competence.
 
Soopairik said:
Good example would be Switzerland, one of the few direct democracies out there. In the US, it's a representative democracy, and unfortunately those "reps" do not actually represent all of America's ideas. Not to mention the huge flaws of the Electoral College.
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Please explain the flaws of the electoral college.

My State would have no voice with out it. You wish to deny the relevance of my state, and frankly my vote as well.

So you understand that?
 
Soopairik said:
Andrew Jackson won the popular vote and more electoral votes than the other candidates. But because nobody reached a majority in the EC, the election for President is decided in the House of Representatives, with each state delegation having one vote. You tell me if that's fair or not. Jackson ended up losing the election.
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Tis is quite fair. Each state has a say in whom is elected... just as with the EC btw..

Popular vote is very UN fair, to the states and the people with in them. Small states would have no say. How American is that? :roll:
 
SoulFire77 said:
Why is there such an insistence that the POTUS be "nice," or act "politically correct." Does anyone really care about that, when you risk breaking an ankle every time you go outside... from tripping over all of the "Now Hiring" signs?
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Just wait til a Dem is back as POTUS. You'll find alot of the people agreeing with you on how they don't care about having a "nice" potus all of a sudden having tantrums if the president dares to say that they cling to their bibles and guns or that someone acted stupidly. They'll completely forget how they rooted on a man that issued threats of nuclear war on twitter while taking a dump.
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Please explain the flaws of the electoral college.

My State would have no voice with out it. You wish to deny the relevance of my state, and frankly my vote as well.

So you understand that?
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1 vote for 1 person. That's how it should work. It's not unfair if every person gets one vote. What do you have to say to those Republicans living in California or Democrats in Texas who are also getting their votes wasted?
 
Soopairik said:
1 vote for 1 person. That's how it should work. It's not unfair if every person gets one vote. What do you have to say to those Republicans living in California or Democrats in Texas who are also getting their votes wasted?
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California deserves all of the crap it gets for all of the Leftwing silliness it enacts. Second, we were never meant to be a direct democracy. Otherwise your wet dream of Liberal ****holes like LA, NYC, Chicago would get 100% of the say as to the Presidential elections and the country's agenda. Effectively disenfranchising voters in the Heartland. Sorry, but the Founders were wise to enact the Electoral College.
 
Bassman said:
California deserves all of the crap it gets for all of the Leftwing silliness it enacts. Second, we were never meant to be a direct democracy. Otherwise your wet dream of Liberal ****holes like LA, NYC, Chicago would get 100% of the say as to the Presidential elections and the country's agenda. Effectively disenfranchising voters in the Heartland. Sorry, but the Founders were wise to enact the Electoral College.
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No, they wouldn't. Even if you were to combine CA, Texas, NY, and FL's populations, they'd still only amount to a third of the population.
 
slick said:
When I was young Nixon ran against Humphrey for president. I asked my dad why he was supporting Nixon.
He asked me 'If you got in trouble in school who would you want to dispense with your punishment Nixon or Humphrey?
That was an easy one Humphrey!
He then asked me 'If your country needed someone to handle an enemy who would you want Nixon or Humphrey?
That was an easy one Nixon!

That's my answer! Nixon was crafty & tough though not nice to be sure. I'd take that type to lead in tough times anyday!
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Nixon ended up as a stain on our republic and 21, 000 or our young men died for nothing in Vietnam while he was in office. You get the leaders you deserve I guess.
 
SoulFire77 said:
Why is there such an insistence that the POTUS be "nice," or act "politically correct." Does anyone really care about that, when you risk breaking an ankle every time you go outside... from tripping over all of the "Now Hiring" signs?
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No, I think a president should be morally correct, and Trump is certainly not that.
 
Bassman said:
Well thank the Sovereign God of Creation the US is not a direct democracy.
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Yeah, representative democracy is the best way to go. Too bad the US is a flawed representative democracy.
 
Soopairik said:
Yeah, representative democracy is the best way to go. Too bad the US is a flawed representative democracy.
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No, Constitutional Republic. The only reason you think it's "flawed" is because that lying skank Hillary didn't win. Boo freaking hoo.
 
Bassman said:
No, Constitutional Republic. The only reason you think it's "flawed" is because that lying skank Hillary didn't win. Boo freaking hoo.
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Actually, I've been wanting to fix the system long before Hillary came into office. Nice try at dissing though.
 
Soopairik said:
Actually, I've been wanting to fix the system long before Hillary came into office. Nice try at dissing though.
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We need to keep the Electoral College as is. This way, Liberal urban sh*tholes don't get all the say in who gets elected. We also need to return to senators being chosen by the STATES.
 
SoulFire77 said:
Why is there such an insistence that the POTUS be "nice," or act "politically correct." Does anyone really care about that, when you risk breaking an ankle every time you go outside... from tripping over all of the "Now Hiring" signs?
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Because character and integrity count in a leader if they are to be successful in the long term.

Amazon.com: Character Counts: Leadership Qualities in Washington, Wilberforce, Lincoln, and Solzhenitsyn (9780801058240): Os Guinness: Books
 
SoulFire77 said:
Dude, you just described every single CEO of every corporation on the planet, not to mention every leader of every country on Earth since the beginning of time.
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Which is why those CEO's don't deserve to be paid and or respected anywhere near as much as they are, and why most leaders throughout history have been corrupt manipulative self-interested pieces of ****. Business people make horrible presidents. Running a country is radically different than running a business, and when you try to apply the same type of thinking it results in disaster.

One other thing I would point out though is that there are quite a few Tech CEO's that have both the leadership skills and technical no how to solve problems. Guys like Musk, Gates, Jobs, even Cuban could be tolerable.
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
My State would have no voice with out it.
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There are plenty of states with no voice with it. Everybody knows who California, Illinois, Texas, and Mississippi are going to vote for, and they get little or no attention.

I would actually argue that a straight popular vote would force politicians to pay more attention to every state because even if they know they have a pretty good idea how the state is going to vote, squeezing a few more votes out of a losing state could actually benefit you.

I live in South Carolina, and Democrats barely even tried to win any of the elections here at all. Well, why are you so surprised the Southern States continue to move right, and the Northern States move left?

Another thing to think about is turn out. How many people in California don't bother voting because they know their one vote won't change the outcome of the state as a whole? The overall popular vote will be closer than the state vote so each individual voice will matter more. That's how a Democracy should work.

The whole concept of individual states being incredibly autonomous is kind of an antiquated and silly idea at this point anyway. Technology has made it such that radically different laws from one state to the next are almost unenforceable. More and more federal laws are necessary to prevent a race to the bottom among the states.
 
MrWonka said:
Which is why those CEO's don't deserve to be paid and or respected anywhere near as much as they are, and why most leaders throughout history have been corrupt manipulative self-interested pieces of ****. Business people make horrible presidents. Running a country is radically different than running a business, and when you try to apply the same type of thinking it results in disaster.

One other thing I would point out though is that there are quite a few Tech CEO's that have both the leadership skills and technical no how to solve problems. Guys like Musk, Gates, Jobs, even Cuban could be tolerable.
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Your choices are ridiculous. if you think Bill Gates would do anything except turn the management of the US over to the UN, then you don't know anything about Bill Gates. It's why I am glad that people of your persuasion are rarely persuaded to vote. Liberals are so hypnotized by television and social media that they are no longer capable of living in anything but an imaginary, childish version of "reality." In other words: You guys are so left, you ain't right no more...
 
SoulFire77 said:
Why is there such an insistence that the POTUS be "nice," or act "politically correct." Does anyone really care about that, when you risk breaking an ankle every time you go outside... from tripping over all of the "Now Hiring" signs?
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He doesn't have to be nice, he just has to act like a responsible adult.
 
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