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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian Hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    What arms to ISIS?
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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    No thanks. Visited Russia many times. Stone tossed softballs.
    Stone puckered up and smooched, then tossed softballs.
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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian Hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
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    From the perspective of the US state and its military branches, Russia is very much a threat to the USA and the wider post-WWII US Grand Area doctrine. The Russian thermonuclear arsenal and ballistic missile capacity (both land-based and sub-based) is a very real threat to America. The Russian Navy and Submarine forces are a growing threat since Russia under Vladimir Putin began rebuilding its offensive and defensive capacity after the collapse of the USSR and the follow-on disaster of the Yeltsin years. The Russian Land forces have proved a threat to western interests in the Russian near-abroad and as the US is the dominant member of NATO and a key driver in its westward expansion, it still perceives Russia as a very credible military threat. Russia's involvement and Putin's leadership in the Syrian Civil War is seen as very threatening to US hegemony over the Middle Eastern region as is Russia's closer ties and flourishing business expansion with Iran, Afghanistan and Iraq.

    In the non-military world, Russia's participation and leadership in the creation and promotion of economic and financial mechanisms designed to weaken US domination over international commerce and finance is a threat to US commercial and financial hegemony. So, from the perspective of the US invisible empire and a mono-polar military global hegemon, Russia is most definitly a threat to US interests. The emergence of a grand, Eurasian, land-based, continental-wide, super-economy which the US cannot easily control, influence or interdict by naval or air power is perhaps the greatest emerging threat that Russia, in concert with China, India and the central Asian "Stan-states" along the Silk Road, poses to the US from an American POV. If you see world affairs as a zero-sum game (as the US leadership does), then all nations are a threat but some are more threatening than others. Russia falls into that latter category as far as the US leadership is concerned. It is selfish and xenophobic but it is also true.

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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian Hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by Waddy View Post
    The article would have more credibility if it wasn't full of adhominem attacks on Republican leaders. That our government is a threat or that the MIC is a powerful force, or that out intell agencies don't tell us the facts is nothing new. It is how the world operates, and these things could have been true in even back to the Greeks and Romans. And yet all of this is simply a "version" of events. And the Russians and others have their versions.
    The world has been operating that way since before the Iron Age, yes indeed. Thank you for that.
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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian Hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Trump was not the best we ever had, but he is getting there. He will go down as one of the best.
    And that addresses the question asked how?
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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian Hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    And that addresses the question asked how?
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    Oh, let me see. I'm a conservative who for years has waited for someone to and cut taxes, fund the military, get tough with The UN and so on. Not perfect, but nearly.
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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian Hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
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    Oh, let me see. I'm a conservative who for years has waited for someone to and cut taxes, fund the military, get tough with The UN and so on. Not perfect, but nearly.
    And this addresses the question I asked HOW?

    Reread the question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    What arms to ISIS?
    What arms to ISIS?

    If your answer neither discusses arms nor ISIS you are not addressing the question.
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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian Hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    And this addresses the question I asked HOW?

    Reread the question.



    What arms to ISIS?

    If your answer neither discusses arms nor ISIS you are not addressing the question.
    I never brought up the Isis issue.
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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian Hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    I never brought up the Isis issue.
    Who said you brought up ISIS? I brought up ISIS. In my question.

    You responded to MY question about ISIS with YOUR nonsense not about ISIS.

    If you don't wish to address my question please keep the non-sequitur nonsense to yourself.
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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    I like the post, thanks.

    It covered more then enough of the information that most of us that followed this whole fiasco already knew. However I was surprised to read and recall the same when the author mentioned comparing it to what we saw with "Bush's weapons of mass destruction brief" A very funny reminded to say the least.
    Days since a far-leftist has lied:0

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