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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I believe these kinds of meetings with Russia have been happening regularly since the 80s by everybody in Congress and certainly incoming administrations.

    This is a big ruse to distract from the horrible corruption those emails exposed.
    Indeed. It says quite a lot about our system. Both liberals and conservatives should be appalled at the content of the e-mails.

    Anyway, we need a President that can mend relations with countries such as Russia. No more "enemies." We need allies more than we need enemies. We need to mend relations with countries such as Russia, Syria, North Korea, and China, which are constantly vilified in the mainstream media.

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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    Indeed. It says quite a lot about our system. Both liberals and conservatives should be appalled at the content of the e-mails.

    Anyway, we need a President that can mend relations with countries such as Russia. No more "enemies." We need allies more than we need enemies. We need to mend relations with countries such as Russia, Syria, North Korea, and China, which are constantly vilified in the mainstream media.
    It's really simple. The Military Industrial Corporate Complex is the biggest business in the Nation. It dwarfs the Auto Industry. The MIC has industries in every state and politicians are always trying to keep Military Offense contracts flowing in their jurisdictions. First, you need to create a demand for the products. That'd be marketing. Create chaos, instability, insurrection, revolution and wars wherever possible. Manufacture bogeymen as "devils in the flesh," or in the MSM a/k/a Putin/Russia, China/Xi, etc. That creates more demand for weapons. Without wars, you don't have replacement orders, so concentrate on those wars. Just Business, don't ya' know? "The business of America is business." "War is good business, and business is good." Those are not homilies, but credos. That's what America is about, but the taxpayers don't know it, and don't want to believe it, because it is un-American. Could it's success be caused by a manipulable MSM that supports the war-making agenda? Of course, only five owners. That's where mind bending begins and ends. Written and managed by the CIA, etc. Now, we have a retrosaur president that thinks if the laws are adjusted to the successful (for Corporations) early 1900s without regulation and no acknowledgement of long term liability, then we will be great again. The rich will get richer and if the "business of America is business," then Trump is correct and willing to sacrifice the Planet to prove it. Keeeerissst, we need help.

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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    It's really simple. The Military Industrial Corporate Complex is the biggest business in the Nation. It dwarfs the Auto Industry. The MIC has industries in every state and politicians are always trying to keep Military Offense contracts flowing in their jurisdictions. First, you need to create a demand for the products. That'd be marketing. Create chaos, instability, insurrection, revolution and wars wherever possible. Manufacture bogeymen as "devils in the flesh," or in the MSM a/k/a Putin/Russia, China/Xi, etc. That creates more demand for weapons. Without wars, you don't have replacement orders, so concentrate on those wars. Just Business, don't ya' know? "The business of America is business." "War is good business, and business is good." Those are not homilies, but credos. That's what America is about, but the taxpayers don't know it, and don't want to believe it, because it is un-American. Could it's success be caused by a manipulable MSM that supports the war-making agenda? Of course, only five owners. That's where mind bending begins and ends. Written and managed by the CIA, etc. Now, we have a retrosaur president that thinks if the laws are adjusted to the successful (for Corporations) early 1900s without regulation and no acknowledgement of long term liability, then we will be great again. The rich will get richer and if the "business of America is business," then Trump is correct and willing to sacrifice the Planet to prove it. Keeeerissst, we need help.
    It's a machine, that's for damn sure.

    Ever heard about Operation Gladio? I've heard about it before, but I never knew what it was until now. The fact that the elites in this country and in NATO are capable of that means that we live under a power that doesn't care for morality.

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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    It's a machine, that's for damn sure.

    Ever heard about Operation Gladio? I've heard about it before, but I never knew what it was until now. The fact that the elites in this country and in NATO are capable of that means that we live under a power that doesn't care for morality.
    Making up for lost time on your post count, I see.

    If I read correctly, Operation Gladio was a plan for organized resistance if the Soviets ever took control of territory in Italy or elsewhere. That seems perfectly valid and moral to me, but I only lightly covered the subject. Am I missing anything critical?
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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    Making up for lost time on your post count, I see.

    If I read correctly, Operation Gladio was a plan for organized resistance if the Soviets ever took control of territory in Italy or elsewhere. That seems perfectly valid and moral to me, but I only lightly covered the subject. Am I missing anything critical?
    Read this:

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...tatorship.html

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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    Making up for lost time on your post count, I see.

    If I read correctly, Operation Gladio was a plan for organized resistance if the Soviets ever took control of territory in Italy or elsewhere. That seems perfectly valid and moral to me, but I only lightly covered the subject. Am I missing anything critical?
    Nice to meet you, BTW.

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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    Nice to meet you, BTW.
    Nice to meet you too, Lurker.

    The inevitable trend of legislation makes sense, and I had suspected that such was the case. I was aware of the suggestion of false flag operations against our own forces, although I was under the impression that it had a different name. Operation Gladio seems like the most benign aspect of that article, although I didn't watch the 50-minute video.

    Overall, I fully agree that our government engages in shady activities that few outside of it could tolerate, but I was curious about Operation Gladio's significance. It appears that besides drastically outliving it's purpose, it isn't that bad.

    Have you seen the video? If so, what was were/are the Gladio operations like?
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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    Nice to meet you too, Lurker.

    The inevitable trend of legislation makes sense, and I had suspected that such was the case. I was aware of the suggestion of false flag operations against our own forces, although I was under the impression that it had a different name. Operation Gladio seems like the most benign aspect of that article, although I didn't watch the 50-minute video.

    Overall, I fully agree that our government engages in shady activities that few outside of it could tolerate, but I was curious about Operation Gladio's significance. It appears that besides drastically outliving it's purpose, it isn't that bad.

    Have you seen the video? If so, what was were/are the Gladio operations like?
    I'm going by the descriptions that the article gives us. It essentially killed or hurt people in the name of anti-Soviet propaganda.

    The point I was trying to make is that the elites have been shown to stoop to some pretty low levels in terms of morality.

    Glad that we got on the right foot by the way.

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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lurker View Post
    I'm going by the descriptions that the article gives us. It essentially killed or hurt people in the name of anti-Soviet propaganda.

    The point I was trying to make is that the elites have been shown to stoop to some pretty low levels in terms of morality.

    Glad that we got on the right foot by the way.
    You don't have to convince me that the government is dangerous to it's citizens, I know that's true. It was interesting to learn about Operation Gladio, I'll have to do some more research on it tomorrow.

    It's been good talking with you, Lurker. I'll see you later - it's been a long day for me, and I'm calling it quits for now.
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    Re: What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Russian hacking (everyone should read this)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    You don't have to convince me that the government is dangerous to it's citizens, I know that's true. It was interesting to learn about Operation Gladio, I'll have to do some more research on it tomorrow.

    It's been good talking with you, Lurker. I'll see you later - it's been a long day for me, and I'm calling it quits for now.
    Yeah, you too. I'm glad that you took the time to read my article.

    I hope to see you tomorrow.

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