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Fox News Host Suggests “We Have a Coup on Our Hands in America”

Superfly said:
:lol:

What do each of these links have in common?

Link #1:

A member of President Donald Trump's legal team said Tuesday that it's time to create a second special counsel to start investigating the FBI and Department of Justice.

Link #2:

Trump lawyer calls for new special counsel to investigate the Department of Justice and FBI

Link #3:

Trump's lawyer wants a special counsel to investigate DOJ official with Fusion GPS ties

Link #4:

Trump attorney says FBI, DOJ ‘conflicts’ require second special counsel
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So, you give me four links that all say that Trump's lawyers are saying that they need a special prosecutor to investigate the special prosecutor. :lol:

Those same lawyers who are trying to discredit Mueller?

I'd ask if you were serious, but clearly, you are.
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Mueller has other problems related to this. A wide array of legislators in both the Senate and the House are now aware Mueller evaded oversight on Strozk. No matter who Mueller thinks he is and what he thinks he's doing he is still answerable to oversight. Ignoring it will make his recommendations have little to no force if and when it comes to a Congressional vote.

Due to recent retractions and findings from Mueller's investigation, it appears that Sessions should have never recused himself, in light of the fact that his Russian contacts were indeed legitimate and he was told by the FBI advisors to leave them off the disclosure form as they were directly related to his Congressional duties (hint: McCaskill was there as well).

Sessions is also inquiring into whether the DOJ should carefully monitor and direct Mueller's investigation due to rank partisanship on display from Strozk, most of the investigators, McCabe, and Mueller himself. He may yet launch a second investigation into the FBI itself to find out more about the Steele dossier and how it shaped the FBI investigation and whether it was used as the basis for FISA warrants.

In the same vein, the unmasking under authority belonging to Samantha Powers, but not by her personally (she claims) means the Obama team played around with rules to protect US citizens by expanding the number of people that could leak this information 10-fold, from 50 to 500.

Its apparent the FBI was hopelessly partisan and compromised in both its investigation of Hillary and Trump lending more credence to the firing of Comey as a legitimate option. This may well play out but if Mueller doesn't pull the trigger on his investigation, expect Trump and Sessions to clean house at the FBI and even if Mueller gets his scalp, expect Pence to protect himself from partisan sniping from the Bureau by demoting and promoting personnel that put their mission ahead of politics.
 
Mach said:
LOL. How can anyone have missed the ****-show charade of obvious attacks of the Mueller investigation the past year, it's been a source of comedy and tears for the past year, not just on DP and the news, but all the comedy shows too.

It's been shown how Russia colluded already? The investigation is over!?! Mueller's done!? Holy ****! You guys went from denying Russian meddling, to "can't prove it", and now you say it's proven!? And the investigation is just heating up?

Oh my.
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You're babbling.
Focus, baby, focus.
Maybe you can summarize what you know.
It won't take too long, will it?
It might help to explain your confusion.
Let's start here ... since the infamous dossier appears to be how this whole thing started, what do you know about how it came to be?
 
Dittohead not! said:
The facts:




But sure, it's really the Chilean investigation, and that's what got Comey fired, investigating Chile. Sure, that's it.
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Let's qualify it a bit more, if possible: according to our own CIA it happened as you quoted. Pardon my skepticism, but I found out about our CIA and its shenanigans, crimes and lack of veracity in 1970. That it would still be lying in 1973, 1980, and all the way through to 2017 comports with what I learned in 1970.

Sorry for the off topic, I'm done, and I think you get my point.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Let's qualify it a bit more, if possible: according to our own CIA it happened as you quoted. Pardon my skepticism, but I found out about our CIA and its shenanigans, crimes and lack of veracity in 1970. That it would still be lying in 1973, 1980, and all the way through to 2017 comports with what I learned in 1970.

Sorry for the off topic, I'm done, and I think you get my point.
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If the point is that we messed with Chilean elections, so it's OK that Russia messed with ours, then I do get your point.

Yes, the US messed with internal politics in Chile and a lot of other places. Does that mean we need to just lay down and let Russia pay us back for having done so?
 
Was it a coup when the Republican Ken Starr went after Clinton on land grants in Arkansas only to find nothing but get him about lying about a extra-martial affair. Please you Conservatives are Whiny little B's
 
Superfly said:
So... a dossier was released that said, basically, that Trump and Co., along with Russian counterparts, tried to steal the election, by hook or by crook. I mean, that's not all the dossier says :lol: but the part we need to discuss is that Russia infiltrated our election, with the Trump campaign's help. So... the FBI gets this information, and you are surprised that they want to investigate further? That's your issue? Evidence uncovered by investigations are allowed to be used by said investigators. I have said this many times on here, but you guys keep denying it.



I will read nothing from Fox News, as it has turned into nothing more than propaganda. If you can find this information from a reputable website, I'll be glad to take the time to read it. Otherwise...
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The dossier was just a list of unproven anti-Trump allegations, or " opposition research " funded by the Hillary campaign and the DNC

Remeber, after it was revealed that Hillary and the DNC funded it, we were told everyone did this sort oppo research.

Do you think the Obama DOJ would have responded the same way to a GOP funded list of unverified anti-Hillary allegations ? Started a huge investigation that led to FISA warrants and covert surveillance prior to a election ?

Of-course they wouldnt have. And attacking the messenger isnt going to make this issue go away.
Multiple news outlets have reported on Bruce Ohr's demotion and his contacts with Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson
 
Only in the Conservative media is the dossier fake news. "The infamous and "life-changing" dossier that’s central to allegations of collusion between the U.S. president and Russia during the 2016 election is 70 to 90 percent accurate, according to the former British spy who collected the information, including an allegation that Donald Trump once cavorted with hookers in a Moscow hotel.

Ex-British intelligence officer Christopher Steele has been telling friends of his 70- to 90-percent confidence and that he believes much of the dossier will be proven correct by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team, according to Luke Hardin's new book, “Collusion: How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win," The Guardian reported Wednesday. Hardin is a reporter for the news outlet.

“I’ve been dealing with this country for 30 years. Why would I invent this stuff?” Steele said according to the book, adding that Steele said that reading the dossier "is a life-changing experience.” Taken from a Newsweek article.

Trumps own loyal assistance states that Hookers were offered to Trump in Russia but that he turned them down. He left the hotel room shortly thereafter and went to sleep....hmmmm very convenient. Just a coincidence that the Dossier had hookers offered by the Russians and Trumps own loyal aide said that they were offered.....but he went to another room and fell asleep. Nothing to see here Steele just pulled it out of his arse right. More dribble from the right.
 
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I wonder with all the bull crap coming from the right wing media. When will Conservatives call it fake news. Not ever because it fits into their view of the World....and to say it fakes means all their assertions and beliefs are fake as well. The right wing propaganda machine is the foundation of the all the bull crap ideas they sprout.
 
bubbabgone said:
Let's start here ... since the infamous dossier appears to be how this whole thing started, what do you know about how it came to be?
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Why are you still trying to justify Republican attacks on Mueller, who was appointed by Trump's hand-picked deputy AJ as a direct result of Trump's choice to fire Comey? (in a blatant attempt to obstruct justice)

The CIA picked up on Russian meddling before all that, presumably so did the FBI after tipped off by the CIA.
They already watched as the Ukraine election was meddled in by Russia in 2014, it was not some big conspiracy, good ****ing Christ.
Ali Watkins recounted that, around the same time as "the dramatic Russian attempt to hack Ukrainian elections in 2014," the Obama administration "received a report that quoted a well-connected Russian source as saying that the Kremlin was building a disinformation arm that could be used to interfere in Western democracies."[64]
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Dossier? LOL. That was started in 2015 by ****ING CONSERVATIVES for opposition research on the Republican primaries! Steele was hired almost a year later in June 2016 AS A DIRECT RESULT of Russia hacking the DNC. You don't think the DNC would be interested in who hacked them? What are you, simple?

So Steele starts in June 2016, but he's the source of the Russian intelligence that we know of that IN THE PUBLIC unclassified, goes back to 2014!?

You better go back to Fox/Brietbart/DailyCaller for some more talking points, those are ****.
 
Fraggle Rock said:
Only in the Conservative media is the dossier fake news. "The infamous and "life-changing" dossier that’s central to allegations of collusion between the U.S. president and Russia during the 2016 election is 70 to 90 percent accurate, according to the former British spy who collected the information, including an allegation that Donald Trump once cavorted with hookers in a Moscow hotel.

Ex-British intelligence officer Christopher Steele has been telling friends of his 70- to 90-percent confidence and that he believes much of the dossier will be proven correct by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team, according to Luke Hardin's new book, “Collusion: How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win," The Guardian reported Wednesday. Hardin is a reporter for the news outlet.

“I’ve been dealing with this country for 30 years. Why would I invent this stuff?” Steele said according to the book, adding that Steele said that reading the dossier "is a life-changing experience.” Taken from a Newsweek article.

Trumps own loyal assistance states that Hookers were offered to Trump in Russia but that he turned them down. He left the hotel room shortly thereafter and went to sleep....hmmmm very convenient. Just a coincidence that the Dossier had hookers offered by the Russians and Trumps own loyal aide said that they were offered.....but he went to another room and fell asleep. Nothing to see here Steele just pulled it out of his arse right. More dribble from the right.
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Because that guy doesn't need it to be truthful at all amirite?

Talk about a completely biased source!
 
Mach said:
Why are you still trying to justify Republican attacks on Mueller, who was appointed by Trump's hand-picked deputy AJ as a direct result of Trump's choice to fire Comey? (in a blatant attempt to obstruct justice)

The CIA picked up on Russian meddling before all that, presumably so did the FBI after tipped off by the CIA.
They already watched as the Ukraine election was meddled in by Russia in 2014, it was not some big conspiracy, good ****ing Christ.


Dossier? LOL. That was started in 2015 by ****ING CONSERVATIVES for opposition research on the Republican primaries! Steele was hired almost a year later in June 2016 AS A DIRECT RESULT of Russia hacking the DNC. You don't think the DNC would be interested in who hacked them? What are you, simple?

So Steele starts in June 2016, but he's the source of the Russian intelligence that we know of that IN THE PUBLIC unclassified, goes back to 2014!?

You better go back to Fox/Brietbart/DailyCaller for some more talking points, those are ****.
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We won't ever know who hacked the DNC, they never let any law enforcement agency examine their database. You have your timeline screwed up as well. Steele didn't produce the dossier until hired by Fusion GPS. There is no evidence it was seen by anyone before that. Jeb Bush hired Steele to get financial information about overseas dealings by Trump and wasn't impressed with the results so he dropped the matter. When Fusion GPS and Steele got together was when the dossier was produced and shopped to try to get it to hit the news before the election.

No press agency would touch it except for BuzzFeed and that should tell all you need to know about it reliability.
 
OpportunityCost said:
We won't ever know who hacked the DNC, they never let any law enforcement agency examine their database.
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Do you have a source that evidences that "we will never know"? I guess you better update Wikipedia.
The 2016 Democratic National Committee email leak is a collection of Democratic National Committee (DNC) emails stolen by Russian intelligence agency hackers and subsequently published (leaked) by WikiLeaks on July 22, 2016.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak

You have your timeline screwed up as well. Steele didn't produce the dossier until hired by Fusion GPS. There is no evidence it was seen by anyone before that. Jeb Bush hired Steele to get financial information about overseas dealings by Trump and wasn't impressed with the results so he dropped the matter. When Fusion GPS and Steele got together was when the dossier was produced and shopped to try to get it to hit the news before the election.
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Where are your dates, that you are contrasting my dates with? Why can't you please just use the same standard if you're going to refute it, unless you're an apdst troll-type. In which case, don't bother replying at all.

Mine come straight from wikipedia, and it too contradicts what you are claiming:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump–Russia_dossier

In October 2015, during the Republican primary campaign, The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website primarily funded by Republican donor Paul Singer, hired the American research firm Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research on Trump and other Republican presidential candidates.
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Dates, sources, clearly logical information....is that too hard? I would *really* like to know if that's all incorrect, but if you were someone giving me a report, I'd tell you that's not your best work and send you back.
 
Mach said:
Do you have a source that evidences that "we will never know"? I guess you better update Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak


Where are your dates, that you are contrasting my dates with? Why can't you please just use the same standard if you're going to refute it, unless you're an apdst troll-type. In which case, don't bother replying at all.

Mine come straight from wikipedia, and it too contradicts what you are claiming:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump–Russia_dossier



Dates, sources, clearly logical information....is that too hard? I would *really* like to know if that's all incorrect, but if you were someone giving me a report, I'd tell you that's not your best work and send you back.
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1. Citing Wikipedia as to who hacked the DNC server is dependent on whoever wants to present the information. The DNC server has never been turned over to a law enforcement agency for validation of who hacked, how it was hacked, and what was hacked. Citing Wikipedia is stupid in light of that fact, we have the word of the DNC after they refused to allow its examination.

2. Steele was hired shortly before Fusion GPS hired Steele, at the time the Washington Free Beacon may or may not have had them under contract, Steele was not with Fusion GPS. The dossier was produced by Steele shortly after Clinton hired Fusion GPS.

Here: TIMELINE: What’s Known About Trump Dossier’s Creation And Dissemination – Talking Points Memo

September 2015: A still unknown Republican donor who opposed Donald Trump hires Fusion GPS to research the candidate, according to the New York Times.

April 2016: After it becomes clear that Trump will be the GOP nominee, the DNC and the Hillary Clinton campaign take over the funding of the research project, through the intermediary of Democratic power attorney Marc Elias’ law firm Perkins Coie, according to the Washington Post.

June 2016: Steele’s company Orbis is hired by Fusion GPS for the project, per his court filings in a British lawsuit against him. He goes on to produce 16 versions of the dossier before November’s election, according to his court filings.

Summer 2016: FBI begins investigation into Trump associates’ alleged Russia ties.

“Near the start of July” 2016: Steele sends “a report he had written for that firm to a contact at the FBI,” according to an account of his research by Mother Jones’ David Corn.
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and here: FBI says DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers - CNNPolitics

"The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI's Cyber Division and its Washington Field Office, the Department of Justice's National Security Division, and US Attorney's Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC's computer servers," Eric Walker, the DNC's deputy communications director, told BuzzFeed News.
The FBI instead relied on the assessment from a third-party security company called CrowdStrIke.
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My sources are actual news agencies and I picked left wing ones so you don't attack the messenger. Want to look credible? Don't ever depend on Wikipedia as a source but as a place to find a source.
 
Fraggle Rock said:
Only in the Conservative media is the dossier fake news. "The infamous and "life-changing" dossier that’s central to allegations of collusion between the U.S. president and Russia during the 2016 election is 70 to 90 percent accurate, according to the former British spy who collected the information, including an allegation that Donald Trump once cavorted with hookers in a Moscow hotel.

Ex-British intelligence officer Christopher Steele has been telling friends of his 70- to 90-percent confidence and that he believes much of the dossier will be proven correct by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team, according to Luke Hardin's new book, “Collusion: How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win," The Guardian reported Wednesday. Hardin is a reporter for the news outlet.

“I’ve been dealing with this country for 30 years. Why would I invent this stuff?” Steele said according to the book, adding that Steele said that reading the dossier "is a life-changing experience.” Taken from a Newsweek article.

Trumps own loyal assistance states that Hookers were offered to Trump in Russia but that he turned them down. He left the hotel room shortly thereafter and went to sleep....hmmmm very convenient. Just a coincidence that the Dossier had hookers offered by the Russians and Trumps own loyal aide said that they were offered.....but he went to another room and fell asleep. Nothing to see here Steele just pulled it out of his arse right. More dribble from the right.
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Wow what a bunch of lies and misconceptions. None of this is true or will ever be proven. Just Trump hate noise from those who wish to take down our nation, and make it 3rd world....
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
This is a feedback loop.

Trump is probably watching fox and hearing this nonsense right now.
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Come to think of it, with Trump watching it, he probably actually believes that there's efforts to conduct a coup against him. One can just imagine the hoops his Chief of Staff is going to have to jump through to keep Trump from going off the deep end and doing something really bad to "prevent the coup".
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Wow what a bunch of lies and misconceptions. None of this is true or will ever be proven. Just Trump hate noise from those who wish to take down our nation, and make it 3rd world....
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Yeah, it's all lies.

Just like the contacts and meetings with the Russians were all lies...until they weren't.
Just like Trump's NSA pick (for top spy, mind you) being a paid Turkish agent and having close ties to Russia was a lie...until it wasn't.
Just like Trump's longest-serving campaign manager being involved in money-laundering with money from a Kremlin-linked Ukrainian politician was a lie...until it wasn't.
Just like the meeting between Trump's team and the Kremlin-connected Russians was about anything but adoptions was a lie...until it wasn't.
Just like Trump firing Comey was because he wanted to stop Comey's investigation into Flynn was a lie...until it wasn't.

But wait - they're putting another glass of grape Kool-Aid right there in front of you - drink up!
 
OpportunityCost said:
1. Citing Wikipedia as to who hacked the DNC server is dependent on whoever wants to present the information.
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And yet Wikipedia makes extensive use of sources and peer review, it's never one source, it's multiple, all the links are included.

A self-styled hacker going by the moniker "Guccifer 2.0" claimed to be the source of the leaks;[41][42] WikiLeaks did not reveal its source.[22] Cybersecurity experts and firms, including CrowdStrike, Fidelis Cybersecurity, Mandiant, SecureWorks, and ThreatConnect, and the editor for Ars Technica, stated the leak was part of a series of cyberattacks on the DNC committed by two Russian intelligence groups.[43][44][45][46][47][48] U.S. intelligence agencies also stated (with "high confidence"[49]) that the Russian government was behind the theft of emails and documents from the DNC, according to reports in the New York Times and the Washington Post.[49][50][51][52][53]
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Really we can stop there, if you refuse to believe such widely backed claims, and you have NO even plausible idea of an alternative, your claim is bust.
Keeping in mind, we have the official reports from the intelligence organizations, you can't really be denying them can you?!

2. Steele was hired shortly before Fusion GPS hired Steele, at the time the Washington Free Beacon may or may not have had them under contract, Steele was not with Fusion GPS. The dossier was produced by Steele shortly after Clinton hired Fusion GPS.
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Yes, as I stated, the work was started by a Republican before Steele got involved, your post confirms that. And you have not been able to refute anything I have stated.
What do you think raw intelligence from an intelligence officer specializing in Russian intelligence for decades, is? It's intelligence...that it was sent to the FBI is appropriate.

Once again, the Dossier, compiled by a credible former intelligence Russian specialist, you have not shown was the precipitating factor in the FBI investigating Russian meddling. It began based on the information I showed you, with routine CIA monitoring of Russia in Ukraine and predicted to be a problem for us, so it was being monitored. When it hit U.S. soil that I have shown you (That I know of) was the DNC being hacked.
WikiLeaks did not reveal its source. A self-styled hacker going by the moniker Guccifer 2.0 claimed responsibility for the attack. On July 25, 2016, the FBI announced that it would investigate the hack.[5][6][7][8][9][10][11]
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Looks like they were already on this well before Steele. Still.

I agree, your timeline looks skimpy:

Timeline of Russia Investigation - FactCheck.org

Try this one. It includes Trumps' attempted Trump World Tower Moscow that was going on around that time, and other Russian links that you seemed to have missed. Surely you didn't' leave them out.
 
Mach said:
Why are you still trying to justify Republican attacks on Mueller, who was appointed by Trump's hand-picked deputy AJ as a direct result of Trump's choice to fire Comey? (in a blatant attempt to obstruct justice)

The CIA picked up on Russian meddling before all that, presumably so did the FBI after tipped off by the CIA.
They already watched as the Ukraine election was meddled in by Russia in 2014, it was not some big conspiracy, good ****ing Christ.


Dossier? LOL. That was started in 2015 by ****ING CONSERVATIVES for opposition research on the Republican primaries! Steele was hired almost a year later in June 2016 AS A DIRECT RESULT of Russia hacking the DNC. You don't think the DNC would be interested in who hacked them? What are you, simple?

So Steele starts in June 2016, but he's the source of the Russian intelligence that we know of that IN THE PUBLIC unclassified, goes back to 2014!?

You better go back to Fox/Brietbart/DailyCaller for some more talking points, those are ****.
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You're still mistaken on key points.
I'm going to repeat this even though you've already extracted one line in an earlier comment.
Pay attention this time because I don't want to have to repeat it again.
It SHOULD clear things up for you.


You're confused.

You're thinking of a right-wing newspaper hiring FUSION to do oppo research on Trump and others but that ended by June 2016.
The cool stuff came from Steele using Russian sources to create the dossier after that.
Steele's firm was hired by FUSION who was hired by the Clinton campaign's law firm to create the dossier ... it used Russian sources.
Christopher Steele had been ex-MI6 for years by the time he birthed the dossier for FUSION/Democrat Party.

FUSION has quite a ubiquitous presence in DC politics.
- The wife of one FBI agent who was involved with Mueller's team works for FUSION.
- It's been speculated that the phony stuff from the dossier might have been used by the FBI to get FISA warrants.
The peculiar activities of some on Mueller's team (who have been reassigned) make that seem possible.
- Remember that Russian lawyer babe, Natalia Veselnitskaya? The one who had the meeting with Junior to feed him dirt on Hillary but had nothing to deliver?
Well, FUSION worked on something that involved her and one of FUSION's co-founders met with her before and after Junior's meeting.
It looks like her real purpose for the meeting had nothing to do with dirt on Hillary but rather to influence a Law Russia wanted changed that FUSION was helping with.
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You think it's a big revelation that Russia has been meddling in elections to create dissatisfaction among the electorate?
That was a surprise to you?
That's what they did this time.
What you haven't accepted, or maybe realize, yet is that the Democrat Party are their enablers.
But the best part is that you're apparently unaware you just acknowledged the Clinton Campaign colluded with Kremlin operatives.
All's well that ends well.
 
bubbabgone said:
You're still mistaken on key points.
I'm going to repeat this even though you've already extracted one line in an earlier comment.
Pay attention this time because I don't want to have to repeat it again.
It SHOULD clear things up for you.


You're confused.

You're thinking of a right-wing newspaper hiring FUSION to do oppo research on Trump and others but that ended by June 2016.
The cool stuff came from Steele using Russian sources to create the dossier after that.
Steele's firm was hired by FUSION who was hired by the Clinton campaign's law firm to create the dossier ... it used Russian sources.
Christopher Steele had been ex-MI6 for years by the time he birthed the dossier for FUSION/Democrat Party.

FUSION has quite a ubiquitous presence in DC politics.
- The wife of one FBI agent who was involved with Mueller's team works for FUSION.
- It's been speculated that the phony stuff from the dossier might have been used by the FBI to get FISA warrants.
The peculiar activities of some on Mueller's team (who have been reassigned) make that seem possible.
- Remember that Russian lawyer babe, Natalia Veselnitskaya? The one who had the meeting with Junior to feed him dirt on Hillary but had nothing to deliver?
Well, FUSION worked on something that involved her and one of FUSION's co-founders met with her before and after Junior's meeting.
It looks like her real purpose for the meeting had nothing to do with dirt on Hillary but rather to influence a Law Russia wanted changed that FUSION was helping with.
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You think it's a big revelation that Russia has been meddling in elections to create dissatisfaction among the electorate?
That was a surprise to you?
That's what they did this time.
What you haven't accepted, or maybe realize, yet is that the Democrat Party are their enablers.
But the best part is that you're apparently unaware you just acknowledged the Clinton Campaign colluded with Kremlin operatives.
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All's well that ends well.
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It's ironic, isn't it? "We'll take the word of the FSB in an investigation into Russian influence in our elections." :doh
 
bubbabgone said:
You're still mistaken on key points.
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I've missed nothing, nor have I been shown to be mistaken on any point. You have also not added anything new of substance to the discussion. You have missed a lot though.

- The wife of one FBI agent who was involved with Mueller's team works for FUSION.
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And?
- It's been speculated that the phony stuff from the dossier might have been used by the FBI to get FISA warrants.
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Are you serious, this has been speculated on by someone?! Say it isn't so!
That explains everything! No wonder you are so confused.

The peculiar activities of some on Mueller's team (who have been reassigned) make that seem possible.
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I'm laughing. Peculiar...seems possible?

- Remember that Russian lawyer babe, Natalia Veselnitskaya? The one who had the meeting with Junior to feed him dirt on Hillary but had nothing to deliver?
Well, FUSION worked on something that involved her and one of FUSION's co-founders met with her before and after Junior's meeting.
It looks like her real purpose for the meeting had nothing to do with dirt on Hillary but rather to influence a Law Russia wanted changed that FUSION was helping with.
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Riiighht, they all went to that meeting to get dirt on Hillary, but turns out she only wanted them to do HER a favor? Yeah, that's how most such meetings work, are you really that daft?
She wanted movement on her issue, and gave them something for their issue. Why else were all those Trump guys there? Trump Jr., Kushner, Manafort.
Let's imagine she's an intelligent woman. Would you be so ****ING STUPID, to lie about the purpose of the meeting with Trumps top campaign folks, and actually have the audacity to say they needed to help HER (for free)? Wouldn't they be pissed off at her? How would that help her on her issue? It wouldn't.

You must think everyone is a ****ing moron like Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...96f25a-68aa-11e7-9928-22d00a47778f_story.html
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Yeah, it's all lies.

Just like the contacts and meetings with the Russians were all lies...until they weren't.
Just like Trump's NSA pick (for top spy, mind you) being a paid Turkish agent and having close ties to Russia was a lie...until it wasn't.
Just like Trump's longest-serving campaign manager being involved in money-laundering with money from a Kremlin-linked Ukrainian politician was a lie...until it wasn't.
Just like the meeting between Trump's team and the Kremlin-connected Russians was about anything but adoptions was a lie...until it wasn't.
Just like Trump firing Comey was because he wanted to stop Comey's investigation into Flynn was a lie...until it wasn't.

But wait - they're putting another glass of grape Kool-Aid right there in front of you - drink up!
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