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    Re: Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?

    Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?
    yes.

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    Re: Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Then you have changed the goal posts from the OP which is titled: "Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?"

    I address issues which I agree are "fake news" reports, and explain why in any such post.

    I have no need to address issues which aren't "fake news," including personal opinions critical of his actions unless I see an issue I factually agree or disagree with.

    For example, I disagree with his tweeting so much and have pointed that out in a few posts.

    I also disagree with the FCC stance on net neutrality, and argued why I'd prefer that be taken out of the hands of the FCC (i.e. Executive Branch discretion) by Congress amending the law.

    I could list more, but in truth I am not answerable to either of you. Especially in an attempted red herring derailment.

    Suffice it to say, I choose not to join those incessant trolling threads which start out as an echo-chamber of Anti-Trump sentiments, following by a gang assault of ad hominin's towards anyone foolish enough to enter in dispute.
    A "red herring derailment" which was completely on the topic of the thread? I don't think you know the meanings of words.


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    Re: Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    If I may butt in here, I know Trumps faults but I excuse them because he does what he promised to do. Illegal immigration is slowing, citizens are getting back to work, and the economy is improving.

    The left just cannot come to terms with the idea that an outsider, a businessman no less, can work the rigged system and become president. And what does he get for it? Constant criticism, and lies made up when nothing else derogatory is readily available.

    Why? Trump is blamed because the democrats chose to run an entitled criminal and an over the hill socialist for president, and for that, the MSM hates Trump.

    What a depraved party the “Party of the Workingman” has become!
    Such verbal fellation of Trump...I gotta hand it to you, I didn't think you were capable of it.


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    Re: Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes_Minister View Post
    Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news
    Yes.

    and will his supporters believe it?
    Probably.

    If so, do Trump supporters create an environment of zero accountability for him?
    No.

    Whether Trump supporters give him "zero accountability" or not has nothing to do with whether claims that the Media pushes floods of fake news, spin, innuendo, outright lies...or even stuff that's truthful. His supporters WILL look at that flood and determine it's fakeness, truthfulness, believability, etc. Actually, EVERYONE...Trump supporter or not...should be doing that instead of blindly believing everything the Media pushes.

    But your question can also be turned around and asked of the Media and the people who believe what THEY say without question: Do those people create an environment of assigning accountability to Trump that he doesn't deserve?
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    Re: Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Such verbal fellation of Trump...I gotta hand it to you, I didn't think you were capable of it.
    Pleeeeze. I doubt you even believe what you post.
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    Re: Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes_Minister View Post
    Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it? If so, do Trump supporters create an environment of zero accountability for him?
    Precisely. Trump directs his supporters to the "Trump Truth"....

    @DonaldTrump, Breitbart, Fox News, Sean Hannity, etc.


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    Re: Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Yes.



    Probably.



    No.

    Whether Trump supporters give him "zero accountability" or not has nothing to do with whether claims that the Media pushes floods of fake news, spin, innuendo, outright lies...or even stuff that's truthful. His supporters WILL look at that flood and determine it's fakeness, truthfulness, believability, etc. Actually, EVERYONE...Trump supporter or not...should be doing that instead of blindly believing everything the Media pushes.

    But your question can also be turned around and asked of the Media and the people who believe what THEY say without question: Do those people create an environment of assigning accountability to Trump that he doesn't deserve?
    But Trump is the President of the US, not some guy, if his supporters take everything he says at face value and decide every time he says something is fake news, without doing any research of their own, is correct, they have given away their freedom to him. If Trump does make a real big mistake and declares it fake news and supporters just buy it, then the US will suffer a huge decline and they would have Trump permission to make mistakes and never be held accountable, thus he would have no reason to change of course if one of his ideas doesn't work out.

    It seems like this "fake news" stuff means he never has learn from a mistake, he can mistake, call the consequences "fake news" and then make it again and again, his supporters put him in a position where he never has to learn anything and really that is a dangerous place to put the most powerful man in the world. That's a huge gamble, unless you think Trump is perfect, he will make a mistake, you just hope his mistakes will not devastating.

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    Re: Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes_Minister View Post
    Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it? If so, do Trump supporters create an environment of zero accountability for him?
    Answer: yes.

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    Re: Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    LMAO!!

    CNN has 7 false or misleading stories in a year but the question is can Trump call anything he wants fake news?
    If Trump had made 7 false or misleading statements in a year he would be considered the most honest President that ever lived.

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    Re: Can Trump just declare anything he wants to be fake news and will his supporters believe it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes_Minister View Post
    But Trump is the President of the US, not some guy, if his supporters take everything he says at face value and decide every time he says something is fake news, without doing any research of their own, is correct, they have given away their freedom to him. If Trump does make a real big mistake and declares it fake news and supporters just buy it, then the US will suffer a huge decline and they would have Trump permission to make mistakes and never be held accountable, thus he would have no reason to change of course if one of his ideas doesn't work out.

    It seems like this "fake news" stuff means he never has learn from a mistake, he can mistake, call the consequences "fake news" and then make it again and again, his supporters put him in a position where he never has to learn anything and really that is a dangerous place to put the most powerful man in the world. That's a huge gamble, unless you think Trump is perfect, he will make a mistake, you just hope his mistakes will not devastating.
    Wow...you got it bad...

    "they have given away their freedom"!!

    "If Trump does make a real big mistake..."!!

    "then the US will suffer a huge decline..."!!

    The hyperbole here is rampant and noxious.

    Look...if Trump makes a "big mistake", then he'll deal with it. This stuff he's calling fake news is just that...fake news. Furthermore, we've seen lots of Presidents make lots of mistakes. The world didn't end. It won't end if Trump makes a mistake.
    Last edited by Mycroft; 12-10-17 at 08:47 PM.
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