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Trump is Going Off On A Washington Post Reporter on Twitter

trouble13 said:
He goes after them too when they are hostile toward him. Look at how he went after mean kelly in the debate. The media is generally openly hostile toward him. If someone was openly hostile to you wouldn't you fight back? I know I would. It's pretty obvious the media is pisses that they did not get who they wanted and now they are doing everything within their power to try and convince everyone that we put the wrong person in office. I applaud Trump for standing up to them. They are nothing but a bunch of sore losers. It's incredible watching them commit mass suicide like they are. It's as stupid as the suicide thd nfl is committing with their fan base. I have put both of them on ignore.
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What the media is hostile to is a president who is so loose with facts that he spews lies. It's not an attack reporting that the tax-bill that he said was for the middle-class and taxed the rich, does the opposite. It's not an attack to report that his health bill, that he said would be 'terrific,' would cover more for less cost, actually was more expensive and would have thrown 24 million people off insurance. That is the media's job -- but this president is a snowflake that just can't take the heat of scrutiny.

So, what does Trump complain about? The fact that his crowd size wasn't as big as Obama's. A real president would care about policy, not unimportant minutia like the size of his crowd and wouldn't care about a comment about that minutia.
 
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MTAtech said:
What the media is hostile to is a president who is so loose with facts that he spews lies. It's not an attack reporting that the tax-bill that he said was for the middle-class and taxed the rich, does the opposite. It's not an attack to report that his health bill, that he said would be 'terrific,' would cover more for less cost, actually was more expensive and would have thrown 24 million people off insurance. That is the media's job -- but this president is a snowflake that just can't take the heat of scrutiny.

So, what does Trump complain about? The fact that his crowd size wasn't as big as Obama's.
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The guy lied about the crowd size and Trump called him out. Trump isn't the one who did something wrong here. It was the dishonest reporter. Like it or not DJT is the leader of the free world and in order to lead effectively you have to protect your reputation. This reporter attacked his credibility and Trump rightly defended himself.

I have no sympathy for the media or its cheerleaders. These attacks are beyond stupid and to have the audacity to be offended by the fact that Trump is fighting back is even dumber if it's possible to be any dumber than they already are. Let me clue you in onsomething. This game they are playing isn't working. Nobody is fooled by it. Everyone knows what's going on. Nobody is judging Trump based on the opinions of the sore sports in the media. Some people like Trump, some dont. The medias opinion are irrelivent. They have no credibility left.

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MTAtech said:
The dignity of the Office of the President of the United States requires that he (or she) not respond to every minor comment. Moreover, it is quite noticeable that it's always about Trump -- not issues. He's the most narcissistic man (or woman)
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Oh, he’s a man. Certainly you don’t question that, right? ;)

I’ve said any number of times, if I thought I could get a Christmas gift to him, it would be a pair of down filled mittens and a heavy-duty stapler so they could be fastened at his wrist.
 
MaggieD said:
Oh, he’s a man. Certainly you don’t question that, right? ;)

I’ve said any number of times, if I thought I could get a Christmas gift to him, it would be a pair of down filled mittens and a heavy-duty stapler so they could be fastened at his wrist.
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What I was trying (I guess unsuccessfully) to write, was that Mr. Trump is not only the most narcissistic man, he's the most narcissistic in the set of men and women.
 
trouble13 said:
The guy lied about the crowd size and Trump called him out. Trump isn't the one who did something wrong here. It was the dishonest reporter. Like it or not DJT is the leader of the free world and in order to lead effectively you have to protect your reputation. This reporter attacked his credibility and Trump rightly defended himself.

I have no sympathy for the media or its cheerleaders. These attacks are beyond stupid and to have the audacity to be offended by the fact that Trump is fighting back is even dumber if it's possible to be any dumber than they already are. Let me clue you in on something. This game they are playing isn't working. Nobody is fooled by it. Everyone knows what's going on. Nobody is judging Trump based on the opinions of the sore sports in the media. Some people like Trump, some dont. The medias opinion are irrelivent. They have no credibility left.
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A couple of points, if one wants to be taken seriously, deal with serious matters. When a president comments on such a minor story, he degrades himself and the office that he holds. People rightly come to the conclusion that this is the crap he's paying attention to, instead of important matters. These responses do nothing to improve Trump's reputation. They correctly make him seem petty -- only interested in ego feeding, self-aggrandizing. Perhaps that's why his poll numbers suck.
 
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MTAtech said:
A couple of points, if one wants to be taken seriously, deal with serious matters. When a president comments on such a minor story, he degrades himself and the office that he holds. People rightly come to the conclusion that this is the crap he's paying attention to, instead of important matters. These responses do nothing to improve Trump's reputation. They correctly make him seem petty -- only interested in ego feeding, self-aggrandizing. Perhaps that's why his poll numbers suck.
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I would say countering an openly hostile press is a serious matter.

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trouble13 said:
I would say countering an openly hostile press is a serious matter.
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Nixon also thought the press was hostile to him. They were just telling the truth and he interpreted it as hostility.

Trump thinks the same way. He expects the press to report his words are the honest truth. So, when Trump tells the public that his tax-plan taxes the rich and helps the middle class and “This is not good for me. Me, it’s not so — I have some very wealthy friends. Not so happy with me, but that’s OK.” and “We’re also going to eliminate tax breaks and complex loopholes taken advantage by the wealthy” and instead, the press reports that he actually benefits by a billion dollars for his tax plan that has goodies for golf course owners, those in the real estate business and private jet owners, he interprets that “hostility.”

Apart from the press being hostile to Trump, Trump is hostile to the notion of a free press.
 
MTAtech said:
Nixon also thought the press was hostile to him. They were just telling the truth and he interpreted it as hostility.

Trump thinks the same way. He expects the press to report his words are the honest truth. So, when Trump tells the public that his tax-plan taxes the rich and helps the middle class and “This is not good for me. Me, it’s not so — I have some very wealthy friends. Not so happy with me, but that’s OK.” and “We’re also going to eliminate tax breaks and complex loopholes taken advantage by the wealthy” and instead, the press reports that he actually benefits by a billion dollars for his tax plan that has goodies for golf course owners, those in the real estate business and private jet owners, he interprets that “hostility.”

Apart from the press being hostile to Trump, Trump is hostile to the notion of a free press.
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The press has been abundantly dishonest in how they portray him and his policies. Everyone knows it, some cheer it on and some dont. You sound like your part of the cheerleaders.

Trump is off to the best start of any president in my life time despite the constant negative coverage. As long as he continues on the trajectory he is on, he will have my support.

As far as the tax reform goes i hope he does benefit from it. I hope everyone benefits from it. I think its absurd to complain that the rich are getting a bigger return than everyone else when you have no problem asking them to pay a bigger precentage of the total tax burden. Taxes are disproportionate because that is exactly how the left wants them.



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trouble13 said:
The press has been abundantly dishonest in how they portray him and his policies. Everyone knows it, some cheer it on and some dont. You sound like your part of the cheerleaders.

Trump is off to the best start of any president in my life time despite the constant negative coverage. As long as he continues on the trajectory he is on, he will have my support.

As far as the tax reform goes i hope he does benefit from it. I hope everyone benefits from it. I think its absurd to complain that the rich are getting a bigger return than everyone else when you have no problem asking them to pay a bigger precentage of the total tax burden. Taxes are disproportionate because that is exactly how the left wants them.



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Everyone doesn't know it. People use the "Everyone knows it," so as to improve the validity of an argument, by proclaiming unanimity for a position when none exist.

While you said, "The press has been abundantly dishonest in how they portray him and his policies," what specific portrayal and what specific policies?

On what you said on taxes, is that the rich deserve a huge tax-cut. Fine. Just remember that tax-cuts aren't free. The revenue needs to either be made up by taxing others, or added to the debt, that has to be paid in the future. But the tax-cut in this bill are being paid by raising taxes on the middle class. (The GOP tax plan on the cusp of becoming law diverges wildly from the promises President Trump and top advisers said they would deliver for the middle class) I guess you are fine with subsidizing the rich from those disaffected Americans you mentioned in a previous post.

I'd really like to read how you rationalize that Trump has done a 180 degree turn on every policy he promised during the campaign. The swamp is murkier; Wall St. is far more in control of policy; taxes on the rich will decrease -- paid by working America; Medicare cuts are not off the table; health care under Trump is not "terrific," etc.
 
I love the term fake news and this whiney butt horn continually crying about it. Hmm I seem to remember a person putting forth the notion for 2 years that Obama lied about his place of birth and just before the election he decided that Obama was born here. Now he is saying he wasn't again. Not to mention him calling newspapers acting as someone else in order to promote himself like the Ho of attention he is. Sorry let me shed some crocodile tears for the original purveyor fake news.
 
PleasantValley said:
My statement was completely true, and right here in this thread for all to see.
Post number 10 WAS and IS invoking Godwin's Law
and...
(yawn) this is another "look what Trump did now " thread.

Tell me what is not true about either one of these?

Look I voted for Trump, but I sure as heck do not like him, or his unprofessional tweets.
That being said, it also does not mean I will also side with the rabid Trump hate and foolishness I see on here either.
I saw the same exact foolish hate toward Obama, but never let myself get caught up in it.
It does not really affect my daily life very much at all.

I had an equally difficult time trying to convince someone earlier that I just don't care about Climate Change.
Yet they persisted and just could not wrap their head around it.
Nor could they change the subject.
Fixating and obsessing on something you have no control over is not healthy.
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But we do have control over the situation, its called voting, and exercising our first amendment rights. Though at this point, Mr Mueller holds all the cards, so yes, it is out of ours.
 
Of all the moral outrages that a president can weigh in on, it's telling that he chooses the one that questions a crowd size at a rally as one to get bent out of shape about.
 
MTAtech said:
Everyone doesn't know it. People use the "Everyone knows it," so as to improve the validity of an argument, by proclaiming unanimity for a position when none exist.

While you said, "The press has been abundantly dishonest in how they portray him and his policies," what specific portrayal and what specific policies?

On what you said on taxes, is that the rich deserve a huge tax-cut. Fine. Just remember that tax-cuts aren't free. The revenue needs to either be made up by taxing others, or added to the debt, that has to be paid in the future. But the tax-cut in this bill are being paid by raising taxes on the middle class. (The GOP tax plan on the cusp of becoming law diverges wildly from the promises President Trump and top advisers said they would deliver for the middle class) I guess you are fine with subsidizing the rich from those disaffected Americans you mentioned in a previous post.

I'd really like to read how you rationalize that Trump has done a 180 degree turn on every policy he promised during the campaign. The swamp is murkier; Wall St. is far more in control of policy; taxes on the rich will decrease -- paid by working America; Medicare cuts are not off the table; health care under Trump is not "terrific," etc.
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Here is a list covering the 1st 3 months in office of dishonest reporting by the press:
Mainstream media errors in the Trump era: Your catalogue of the media's bias-fueled failure-fest

About taxes

I don't think anyone should be taxed on their income. I think a national sales tax would be a superior method. If we are going to use an income tax I think everyone should pay something except maybe the very poor and anyone not paying any taxes should not be receiving refunds. I see no ethical reason for people to demand that the rich pay other people's tax burden for them.

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NeverTrumpGOP said:
More high and mighty wisdom from Trump. We are back at square one. Does anybody remember what Trump focused on for the first two months of his Presidency? That's right crowd sizes!!!!!


Washington Post reporter apologizes for tweet on crowd size at Trump rally | TheHill

Raftergate: President Donald Trump Gets Apology From WaPo Reporter | Deadline

The reporter claims he thought it was the actual crowd size and not the size before the event. Yet Trump called it fake news.
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Gaslighting, pure and simple.
 
trouble13 said:
Here is a list covering the 1st 3 months in office of dishonest reporting by the press:
Mainstream media errors in the Trump era: Your catalogue of the media's bias-fueled failure-fest

About taxes

I don't think anyone should be taxed on their income. I think a national sales tax would be a superior method. If we are going to use an income tax I think everyone should pay something except maybe the very poor and anyone not paying any taxes should not be receiving refunds. I see no ethical reason for people to demand that the rich pay other people's tax burden for them.
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I read that Washington Examiner article. They seem to be scraping the bottom to find errors, which is something that every newspaper and human does. They didn't say how many of those sources later issued retractions or corrections -- something legitimate media does.

Meantime, Mr. Trump himself, has told over 1,300 lies (as of October 31, 2017) and has never retracted any of them. He has gone back to his claim that President Obama wasn't born in the U.S. and say last year that the ‘Access Hollywood’ tape was real. Now he questioned whether it is.

The narrative that the media is ganging up on Trump, is false. It is more clear that Trump, and his minions, are trying to undermine the credibility of the free press -- something fascists do to have a monopoly on the facts. Remember in February, Trump called The New York Times and other members of the free-press, enemies of the American people.

On "Meet the Press" Senator John McCain said, "Trump's attacks on the press are how dictators get started."
 
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MaggieD said:
Who said that?
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It's official.
It's unofficial.
You can't control what Trump tweets.
It's basically straight from the President unfiltered therefore it's official.
It's his ****ing personal lawyer, it wasn't even Trump (on any matter that could get Trump in legal trouble).

Point is MaggieD, the president Tweeting has been and always will be, absurd, unprofessional, dangerous, a bad idea, something he said he wouldn't do, etc., etc.

If you think Journalists should be fired for getting a story wrong and correcting, it, but you absolutely have no care that Trump gets 100x more wrong, on more important issues, and *never* issues any corrections whatsoever, I'd say I don't think it matters who said it....
 
MTAtech said:
Senator John McCain said, "Trump's attacks on the press are how dictators get started."
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John McCain know more about dictators than anyone. He's used his position to support dictators and genocide all over the world...but McCain complained about foreign censorship of the press.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Every trump supporter I've talked to after posting about something stupid Trump does on Twitter. You included.
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I haven't. That's a pretty broad brush you have there.

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