View Poll Results: How serious is fake or erroneous news

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    13 23.64%
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Thread: Fake News/Media Syndrome

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    Re: Fake News/Media Syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I hope it is possible at DP to have a serious, civil discussion re the serious business of media coverage that is:

    1. Biased to the point of dishonesty
    2. Erroneous to the point of incompetence
    3. Fake news in that it is information created or repeated or represented in a way that is deliberately false.

    Based on posts and people recruited to be talking heads on television, it seems obvious some think this syndrome doesn't exist at all or it is purely an invention of Fox News. Others are diligently pointing out that it does exist and is mean, cruel, hateful, and detrimental to us as a society whether in the mainstream media, on the internet, or on social media.

    So what do you think? This is the thread to express your opinions and impressions and also to post examples of fake/erroneous/misrepresented news that you run across and/or examples of news labeled 'fake' that turned out to be true.
    "Fake news" is mostly a phenomenon of the right. Nothing more fake than Fox, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Town Hall ...

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    Re: Fake News/Media Syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I hope it is possible at DP to have a serious, civil discussion re the serious business of media coverage that is:

    1. Biased to the point of dishonesty
    2. Erroneous to the point of incompetence
    3. Fake news in that it is information created or repeated or represented in a way that is deliberately false.

    Based on posts and people recruited to be talking heads on television, it seems obvious some think this syndrome doesn't exist at all or it is purely an invention of Fox News. Others are diligently pointing out that it does exist and is mean, cruel, hateful, and detrimental to us as a society whether in the mainstream media, on the internet, or on social media.

    So what do you think? This is the thread to express your opinions and impressions and also to post examples of fake/erroneous/misrepresented news that you run across and/or examples of news labeled 'fake' that turned out to be true.
    We know that Russians invaded Facebook & Twitter with thousands of adds designed to sway public opinion toward Trump. They weren't obvious--they didn't have a Russian label on them--and came with titles that were not easy to spot. Google & Youtube were also innundated by Russians.
    Facebook: Russian ads reached 10 million people - Oct. 2, 2017
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f5840b229ebf



    But what is really bothersome to me right now, (because I used to be a FOX NEWS watcher is this.) I have never seen such distortion and untruths coming out of any network to try and protect the truth from getting out. Sean Hannity and several others on this network might as well label themselves with the credibility of a Tabloid magazine. FOX NEWS has become nothing more than conspiracy theory central.

    So here is FOX NEWS where the importance of the placement of cheese on a cheeseburger was more important than 3 Federal Grand Jury indictments and 1 guilty plea.



    So YES fake news--or even distorted news is extremely serious to the well being of our Democracy.
    Last edited by Oreo; 12-09-17 at 03:26 PM.
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    Re: Fake News/Media Syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    So you would agree that fake news, false accusations, erroneous reporting is a serious problem? Is that how you marked the poll?
    For the right who do it and use it yes. To everyone else, it's just the news.
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    Re: Fake News/Media Syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    "Fake news" is mostly a phenomenon of the right. Nothing more fake than Fox, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Town Hall ...
    Quote Originally Posted by NeverTrumpGOP View Post
    Be careful. Your bias is showing too.
    . . . .



    This after the OP posted the las batch of erroneous news reports with a left bias.

    Erroneous news is a problem because its one of the sources with which the electorate is supposed to be making their voting decisions with.

    Would probably be best if the news were factual, non-biased, not opinion, and accurate far more often than it is not. of course, this doesn't describe the 'news' (political propaganda) media landscape we have at present.
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    Re: Fake News/Media Syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    "Fake news" is mostly a phenomenon of the right. Nothing more fake than Fox, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Town Hall ...
    Can you give me a specific example or two of those publications putting out fake news or inaccurate information?
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    Re: Fake News/Media Syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Oreo View Post
    We know that Russians invaded Facebook & Twitter with thousands of adds designed to sway public opinion toward Trump. They weren't obvious--they didn't have a Russian label on them--and came with titles that were not easy to spot. Google & Youtube were also innundated by Russians.
    Facebook: Russian ads reached 10 million people - Oct. 2, 2017
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f5840b229ebf



    But what is really bothersome to me right now, (because I used to be a FOX NEWS watcher is this.) I have never seen such distortion and untruths coming out of any network to try and protect the truth from getting out. Sean Hannity and several others on this network might as well label themselves with the credibility of a Tabloid magazine. FOX NEWS has become nothing more than conspiracy theory central.

    So here is FOX NEWS where the importance of the placement of cheese on a cheeseburger was more important than 3 Federal Grand Jury indictments and 1 guilty plea.



    So YES fake news--or even distorted news is extremely serious to the well being of our Democracy.
    Maybe you have a serious example of fake news or inaccurate reporting? Surely one lighthearted moment in a newscast does not constitute objectionable reporting. Fox is after all a 24/7 news station and they do break from the serious stuff now and then as ALL such news organizations do.
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    Re: Fake News/Media Syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Can you give me a specific example or two of those publications putting out fake news or inaccurate information?
    Fox
    Breitbart
    Daily Caller
    Town Hall -- who gives a crap? Just an example of a run-of-the-mill right-wing propaganda site

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    Re: Fake News/Media Syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverTrumpGOP View Post
    For the right who do it and use it yes. To everyone else, it's just the news.
    So if the right gets it wrong it is 'fake news'? But it is okay if anybody else does it and somebody believes it? Is that what you are arguing here? Please clarify because that is what I got from your post at first blush. And I fully realize I could be wrong re your intent so want to understand you correctly.
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    Re: Fake News/Media Syndrome

    Indiscretion on the part of any major news organization cannot be acceptable, they can and they must hold themselves to the very highest standards of journalistic integrity and have a fact based bedrock on which their organization is built.

    Anything less does a disservice to the public, to the democracy in which they are supposed to serve and inform and the many instances we have witnessed from across the American media are simply not acceptable.

    Having said that... Trump supporters have no right, no right whatsoever, to jump on some of these organizations the way they have, not because the news organizations don't deserve it, but because it's very odd that they support someone with not only absolutely no regard for the truth, but no regard for reality as we know it, not only does Trump lie at the speed of light, but he also has a tendency to make things up and buy into massive conspiracy theories.

    A Trump supporter is also far more likely to turn to the alternative media for news that routinely and willfully warps reality and truth from what cannot even be described as a bias point of view, but an almost fictional one.

    And the way in which the Extremist Far Right bogus videos were re-tweeted by Trump were excused by his supporters, just as an example, shows that these people have absolutely no basis in which to proclaim their disdain for major news organizations.

    They are throwing stones not from a glass house, but a scorched, open field.

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    Re: Fake News/Media Syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    So if the right gets it wrong it is 'fake news'? But it is okay if anybody else does it and somebody believes it? Is that what you are arguing here? Please clarify because that is what I got from your post at first blush. And I fully realize I could be wrong re your intent so want to understand you correctly.
    The attacks the the right uses against the MSM are misleading and blown way out of proportion. They should look at themselves first before acting all high and mighty. I'll admit I don't like how the left has handled sexual assault cases in the past, but the right doesn't do it any better!
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