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Pretty much the worst take on the NFL kneeling issue

Thoreau72 said:
A venue approved by...who? Somebody in the government?

Perhaps Rosa Parks should have chosen a better venue too?
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Oh stop it. The players are at work.... Don't you see the difference. You don't have a right to protest at work!
Rosa Parks has nothing to do with this.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Oh stop it. The players are at work.... Don't you see the difference. You don't have a right to protest at work!
Rosa Parks has nothing to do with this.
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Show me the codicil in the First Amendment that says "but not at work."

Their employer is cool with it. Ergo, the snowflakes can go burn their jerseys. The vast majority will be back.
 
fmw said:
A venue determined by themselves that was not destructive to their cause, their team and themselves.



Rosa Parks did fine. She didn't choose a venue that would itself be destructive to her.
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A diminutive African/American woman sits where she is prohibited to sit in the Deep South during the civil rights movement. Yeah, she knew it would all “work out!”
 
fmw said:
A venue determined by themselves that was not destructive to their cause, their team and themselves.



Rosa Parks did fine. She didn't choose a venue that would itself be destructive to her.
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I guess the point is that one chooses one venue depending upon which opportunities are provided by life.
 
Thoreau72 said:
I guess the point is that one chooses one venue depending upon which opportunities are provided by life.
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No, it is possible to think things through. That is what most of us do.
 
Rexedgar said:
A diminutive African/American woman sits where she is prohibited to sit in the Deep South during the civil rights movement. Yeah, she knew it would all “work out!”
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I think you are confusing the action with the venue. That seems to be what this whole issue about.
 
fmw said:
Sure you can say hogwash if you like.
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I think you missed my point...I know I can say hogwash in general terms but I was wondering if I can say something like, "Dude, what you wrote is hogwash."
just trying to understand where they draw the line when addressing perceived stoopidity.
 
Here's my take since the son of a bitch historical horrible President and administration has change the point of this peaceful protest. And since you want to tell black Americans how to express their 1st amendment rights. I wish the response from the black players in the NBA and NFL was that we are pooling our dollars and acting on our 2nd amendment right.
The Second Amendment was adopted on December 15, 1791. It reads:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Oh how would the GOP and conservative Christian right whom loves guns and a good militia but I have a feeling their thinking would be different if rich black people united on this way to protect our community. But don't worry GOP unlike your party the left don't seem to want the confrontation.
 
AYSM said:
I think you missed my point...I know I can say hogwash in general terms but I was wondering if I can say something like, "Dude, what you wrote is hogwash."
just trying to understand where they draw the line when addressing perceived stoopidity.
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I think you can say that but my name isn't dude.
 
fmw said:
I think you can say that but my name isn't dude.
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I've been addressed by other than my name but was clear it was addressed to me...I doubt your name is fmw either so your "name" becomes a moot point...the fact that the quote contained "you" made it personal, not generalized...a distinction apparently...you know...attack the message, not the poster...just trying to understand the spirit of the issue, I suppose.

As to your original hogwash...for the most part...you somewhat accurately address the disconnect in arguments being made, imo...however, I believe the conclusion you draw is hogwash.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
No not different things to different people....honor and respect always.
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Honor and respect always for what? The military? Do you honor and respect all military personnel always?

Do you respect the concept of "liberty and justice for all"?

Do you respect the concept of "the land of the free and the home of the brave"?
 
Kobie said:
You don't pay them, any more than you pay the actor in a film. You pay to see the product they create. Someone else pays the talent.
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No we actually pay them through tax subsidies, tax exemptions, etc.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
No we actually pay them through tax subsidies, tax exemptions, etc.
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Therefore, that justifies government use of them as a propaganda tool to divide the country?

Religious groups are tax exempt and there is a "separation of church and state"...supposedly...how is this any different?
 
AYSM said:
Therefore, that justifies government use of them as a propaganda tool to divide the country?

Religious groups are tax exempt and there is a "separation of church and state"...supposedly...how is this any different?
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No, actually, what justifies that is the agreement the DOD and the NFL have where the former pays the latter for such displays. It's a contract and an agreement. the nfl can then dictate to it's employees behavior while being paid by them.
 
Kobie said:
Adriana Cohen of the Boston Herald:




She went from zero to ISIS pretty fast. For starters, taking A knee is not the same as getting on one's knees ... there's an extra knee involved in the latter. Secondly, football players take a knee all the time DURING PLAY. It's called a touchback, on a kickoff in the end zone. Or the victory formation, where the quarterback puts a team out of its misery.

People also take a knee when they're being knighted in the UK, the highest honor that can be bestowed in that country. Maybe that's a culture this ignorant twat has never heard of.



Wait, it gets better.



Name me one man NOT parting with his dignity who has ever proposed to a woman on both knees. That's not a proposal. That's begging.



Yes, it was just about his "poorly worded tweet." Not his speech in Alabama where he called anyone who kneeled a "son of a bitch" and urged NFL owners -- most of whom are rock-ribbed Republicans; hell, Roger Goodell himself is the son of a former GOP Congressman -- to just kick kneelers off the team. That had NOTHING to do with Sunday's display of solidarity against Trump.

Colin Kaepernick's original protest, one joined by players like Seattle star Michael Bennett, was to highlight injustices against black people. Last weekend was players giving a giant middle finger right back to Trump, and good on 'em for it. Donald Trump is an asshole, a worthless ****heel who has NO business in the nation's highest office. But back to the show ...
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Kobie said:
"I had a bad week at work, so screw your whole 'please don't shoot black people' thing." I love this entitled mentality from people that they demand freedom from being offended due to their blatant idolatry of Rock, Flag and Eagle when they want to chill for a few hours on Sunday. They've been sitting here telling us that the Snowflakes with their Safe Spaces aren't entitled to be free from offense, yet here they are, whining about needing an "escape" from their oh-so-difficult lives.

You know who doesn't have a difficult life, you insufferable assholes? Tamir Rice. Because he's dead. How about Philando Castile? He's dead too, thanks to some trigger happy asshole cop who blew a dude away for no reason.

I also find the idea that someone who wants to escape bitter, divisive politics introduced ISIS into the story in the third ****ing paragraph to be hilarious.



"Social Justice Warrior" is a snarl term that has no meaning anymore. It's just devolved into anyone who disputes the wingnut narrative.

Also, it's their game. As long as their employers let them, they can hijack it all they want. LeSean McCoy doesn't come to your work and tell you how to do your job. You don't get to come to his work and tell him how to do his job.



I've been to 70+ NFL games, just as a spectator (plus a few more as a member of the working media). 90% of the fans are too drunk to care.



We've been over your distinct lack of football knowledge.



The NFL will be just fine. Then it's on to the next Wingnut Welfare grift target.
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ISIS??? LMAO

Well Adriana Cohen just proved she is a tinfoil hat inbredtard loon of gargantuan proportions. Squeezing thats much dumb into one brain is impressive.
 
Again, to those of you complaining that you're there to be entertained...

The players took a knee during the national anthem,not during game time, or or you trying to say that watching the players stand during the national anthem is part of the entertainment?

Seriously?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
No, actually, what justifies that is the agreement the DOD and the NFL have where the former pays the latter for such displays. It's a contract and an agreement. the nfl can then dictate to it's employees behavior while being paid by them.
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In other words, it is up to the NFL and not the President to dictate their behavior....he can control their right to "freedom of speech"?

If that be the case, should we expect a similar debate if he tried to dictate to the church how they conduct their "freedom of religion"?

Shouldn't those who support the President on this issue also support him on the other?
 
AYSM said:
In other words, it is up to the NFL and not the President to dictate their behavior....he can control their right to "freedom of speech"?

If that be the case, should we expect a similar debate if he tried to dictate to the church how they conduct their "freedom of religion"?

Shouldn't those who support the President on this issue also support him on the other?
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What legislation has the president proposed to curb thier freedom of speech?
 
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