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White House Invents Fake Trump Statement Saying He Condemns White Supremacists

Trump's statement was very weak and problematic but he did condemn "bigotry" in it. But he didn't name names.
 
If the driver had been a Muslim extremist, Trump would have put the Muslim part front and center and used it to validate his immigration policies

If the driver had been an Anarchist, the Right would be screaming about how Left-wing terror is sweeping the country.

The driver was an Alt-right white supremacist. The response from the Trump fanboys is basically that this violence is just so distressing. Where could it possibly be coming from? It must be Obama's fault.
 
MaggieD said:
WTF is fake about it??? Are you saying the KKK AND NEO's are NOT hate groups?? Do you see where the quotes are??? My GOD!

This shot is getting scarey.
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Um maggie. He is using unnamed sources to tell this statement to reporters. That is shady af.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Um maggie. He is using unnamed sources to tell this statement to reporters. That is shady af.
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One of the President's running points during the election cycle was the Obama Administration's reluctance to speak the term "Islamic Terrorist or Terrorism." Now a statement with NO author explaining what the President really meant is bogus. It is not as though DJT has been bashful when Twittering or making off the cuff statements.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Um maggie. He is using unnamed sources to tell this statement to reporters. That is shady af.
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What are you talking about? They released clarification that "of course it includes..." Its a WH statement. You mean because it wasn't attributed to anyone? Wow! Let's lynch the bastard.

Why are you called Moderate anything, btw?
 
MaggieD said:
WTF is fake about it??? Are you saying the KKK AND NEO's are NOT hate groups?? Do you see where the quotes are??? My GOD!

This shot is getting scarey.
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Hello Maggie

The issue is not with the statemet

But that the statement was not the statement he release yesterday as the statement released today indicates. He is trying to "backdate" the condemnation
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Trump's statement was very weak and problematic but he did condemn "bigotry" in it. But he didn't name names.
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He does when they are Muslims, yet when Muslims in the US are attacked/murdered, what have his responses been?
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Hello Maggie

The issue is not with the statemet

But that the statement was not the statement he release yesterday as the statement released today indicates. He is trying to "backdate" the condemnation
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He is NOT trying to backdate anything. It is clarification of what his statement meant. Don't you see that? "...an of course that includes..."
 
Trump and his White House are beyond pathetic. Trump is demonstrating to the entire nation why he needs to be removed ASAP.
 
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JANFU said:
He does when they are Muslims, yet when Muslims in the US are attacked/murdered, what have his responses been?
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Trump sees everything through a very narrow prism - what is good for Donald Trump. People who help him - in this case white supremacists and neo nazis who voted for him - are on his side so he is loathe to say anything directly against them. You do not have to look far to see that has been his model with Russia and Putin. They helped him get elected so he will not say anything bad about them even when they expel over 750 workers from the American Embassy in Moscow.

Its beyond disgusting.
 
Yes, if the violence is by Muslims he will call out Muslims. If the violence is by immigrants he will call out immigrants. He isn't going to call out the KKK or the White Nationalists by name unless he is really, really put into a corner. He will use terms like "bigotry" and "hate" because that is in the eye of the beholder. Ever browse Stromfront posts out of morbid curiosity? I have. They don't think they hate anyone and they don't consider themselves bigots. They call they call the other side bigots so when Trump denounces bigotry without assigning it the White Nationalists just tell themselves "he isn't talking about us". They also know Trump can't actively come out in support of them, so to them his refusing to call them out is Trump's little eye wink to them.

Now, I do think Trump is probably a little racist in the same way many of his generation are. But nothing too serious. I certainly don't think Trump is a White Nationalist. But I also don't think he wants to lose the support of people who voted for him. Trump won't gain any votes by calling the hate groups out by name. But he might lose some.
 
haymarket said:
Trump sees everything through a very narrow prism - what is good for Donald Trump. People who help him - in this case white supremacists and neo nazis who voted for him - are on his side so he is loathe to say anything directly against them. You do not have to look far to see that has been his model with Russia and Putin. They helped him get elected so he will not say anything bad about them even when they expel over 750 workers from the American Embassy in Moscow.

Its beyond disgusting.
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:lamo
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Yes, if the violence is by Muslims he will call out Muslims. If the violence is by immigrants he will call out immigrants. He isn't going to call out the KKK or the White Nationalists by name unless he is really, really put into a corner. He will use terms like "bigotry" and "hate" because that is in the eye of the beholder. Ever browse Stromfront posts out of morbid curiosity? I have. They don't think they hate anyone and they don't consider themselves bigots. They call they call the other side bigots so when Trump denounces bigotry without assigning it the White Nationalists just tell themselves "he isn't talking about us". They also know Trump can't actively come out in support of them, so to them his refusing to call them out is Trump's little eye wink to them.

Now, I do think Trump is probably a little racist in the same way many of his generation are. But nothing too serious. I certainly don't think Trump is a White Nationalist. But I also don't think he wants to lose the support of people who voted for him. Trump won't gain any votes by calling the hate groups out by name. But he might lose some.
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There was/is/will be NO president who will ever in one billion trillion years court neo-Nazis or any other racist group.

I'm going to leave this thread. You have all gone off the reservatiomSO far that I just spit out some water.
 
ModerateGOP said:
The White House is using unnamed sources again:

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White House Invents Fake Trump Statement Saying He Condemns White Supremacists and Racists

This is a breaking story and this is the only source that has it so far. CNN live was just talking about it though. Yet another odd response.
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I'm not understanding what the problem is. An unnamed source is explaining Trump's statement he made yesterday? I don't get why that's breaking news.

I really wish he would stop letting the press push his buttons like that.
 
ModerateGOP said:
The White House is using unnamed sources again:

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White House Invents Fake Trump Statement Saying He Condemns White Supremacists and Racists

This is a breaking story and this is the only source that has it so far. CNN live was just talking about it though. Yet another odd response.
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Oh good grief.
He didn't mention Antifa by name but he did say violence on many sides going on for a long time.
You think he endorses Antifa's many violent episodes like you do?
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Yes, if the violence is by Muslims he will call out Muslims. If the violence is by immigrants he will call out immigrants. He isn't going to call out the KKK or the White Nationalists by name unless he is really, really put into a corner. He will use terms like "bigotry" and "hate" because that is in the eye of the beholder. Ever browse Stromfront posts out of morbid curiosity? I have. They don't think they hate anyone and they don't consider themselves bigots. They call they call the other side bigots so when Trump denounces bigotry without assigning it the White Nationalists just tell themselves "he isn't talking about us". They also know Trump can't actively come out in support of them, so to them his refusing to call them out is Trump's little eye wink to them.

Now, I do think Trump is probably a little racist in the same way many of his generation are. But nothing too serious. I certainly don't think Trump is a White Nationalist. But I also don't think he wants to lose the support of people who voted for him. Trump won't gain any votes by calling the hate groups out by name. But he might lose some.
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Had the violence been solely on the part of the white nationalists, you might have a point.

However, while the MSM is playing up the white nationalist narrative, they are leaving out what the on-site local media reported.

Namely both those protesters, and the "anti" protestors (in equal numbers) were engaging in violence.

At least as many counter-protesters, some also militarized and clearly prepared to fight, surrounded the square. By 10:30 a.m., extremely violent skirmishes broke out between the two groups. Both groups repeatedly fired pepper spray and other chemical weapons at each other. At one point, the rally attendees launched at least four tear gas canisters on the counter-protesters, scattering them in search of medical attention. Sticks and batons also figured prominently in the clashes, which would flare up in a wild melee and then quickly die down as both sides retreated to regroup.
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One dead, 19 injured after violence erupts at white nationalist rally in Charlottesville | Virginia | richmond.com

...and:

Both sides came prepared for violence, wearing protective helmets, masks and carrying flags. When violence broke out, many of the flags were stripped from the wood handles and the handles were used as clubs. Both sides brought street medics equipped with bandages and fluids for flushing eyes and skin afflicted with pepper spray. Taunts and jeers broke out on both sides and scuffles began. The armed demonstrators moved away from the park when both sides began attacking each other. Protesters pelted the alt-right marchers trying to enter the park with balloons filled with paint and both sides hurled water bottles, some with urine inside, and other makeshift missiles at each other. As more scuffles broke out, the two sides began clubbing each other with the flag poles, sticks and makeshift clubs. Others threw road flares and other items across Market Street at each other.
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Ohio man charged with second-degree murder after car plows into crowd | Local | dailyprogress.com

As I said elsewhere, it usually takes TWO sides to fight. Those reports clearly show that the anti-protesters were as engaged in conflict as the white nationalists.

The President's original statement was factual.

What should he have said?

"I condemn the violence of those White Nationalists, as well as those Progressive-Socialist agitators who combined cause conflict in our streets."

Something like that? :unsure13:
 
MaggieD said:
You have all gone off the reservatiomSO far that I just spit out some water.
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COMPLETELY off topic but that is SO weird. Less than two minutes ago I typed the phrase "gone off the reservation" into a reply in another thread and asked myself, "I wonder if that is considered un-PC nowadays." Then decided to delete it. I hadn't heard or thought of the phrase in so long and then both of us bring it up within minutes of each other. Freaky. But off topic. Sorry. :)
 
MaggieD said:
He is NOT trying to backdate anything. It is clarification of what his statement meant. Don't you see that? "...an of course that includes..."
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Maggie Maggie Maggie ... what am I going to do with you.
Didn't you see the quotes around that entire passage?
That means Trump himself is alleged to have said those exact words.
Ignore the fact that then Trump must have been referring to himself as "he" and "his".

Face it, we're going to be treated to that kind of lunatic partisan parsing at least until they realize it makes them sound like schmucks.
"CNN Live was just talking about it" ... now THAT I believe.
 
MaggieD said:
What are you talking about? They released clarification that "of course it includes..." Its a WH statement. You mean because it wasn't attributed to anyone? Wow! Let's lynch the bastard.

Why are you called Moderate anything, btw?
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Using unnamed sources is not clarifying anything and is only bringing up more questions. Like why he doesn't clarify it himself.
 
Casca XV said:
He would have to name BLM as well as KKK
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No. The two are not equivalent. There really aren't any equivalent groups in the US. Maybe in some parts of Africa like South Africa and Zimbabwe there are groups who want to run off all the whites to another country.
 
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