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    Re: A failed attempt at googling highlights an issue with "media" today

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I know, which I absolutely hate. From SOTU to speechs to press conferences to interviews to even Debates....I'd much prefer a written transcript than trying to sit through a video. Lets me kind of read it at my own speed, actually easily take in and comprehend the words, and it also helps with someone like Trump who's voice, cadance, and mannerisms just tend to make me want either zone out or grit my teeth
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    Re: A failed attempt at googling highlights an issue with "media" today

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The entire event was to "drive an agenda", an agenda of hate. You reap what you sow.
    Real journalists dont drive personal agendas...nor should they be driving upper class agendas.....journalism was supposed to be for democracy...for all of us....not for the bosses.
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    Re: A failed attempt at googling highlights an issue with "media" today

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    I searched "trump Virginia protest comments" on Google.ca and pretty much most of the major news sites come up and the first result, a CNN article seems to include in full what he said and a video of him saying it. If I am wrong and that is not all of it let me know.
    Yeah I watched it live on CNN. The talking heads bashed him after, but they showed the full statement aside from the VA guy beforehand.
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    Re: A failed attempt at googling highlights an issue with "media" today

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Here ya go. Result #3 when I searched "trump charlottesville transcript."

    https://www.vox.com/2017/8/12/161389...tesville-rally

    May I just say, though, that journalism is not simply a transcription service for the government's official messages. It's their job to, ya know... analyze it, show the larger social context and reaction to it, etc. It has never been common practice for journalists to publish an entire transcript of anything more than a few sentences long, because that would leave precious little space for the actual analytical writing that is the main point of their job. You're confusing the fourth estate for the White House's press release department.
    Exactly. For instance, my blog below is about spinoffs, franchises, shared universes in hollywood and the business of media. If I just announced such and such show is getting a spinoff. That wouldn't make for very interesting content. I do however, analyze what it means for the parent-show, the franchise, or the latest merger/development in TV and Hollywood. It unfortunately has to be done that way, otherwise the news would be very boring. Click-bait is dangerous, yes, but it's very easy to avoid. Maybe if these people don't like watching the news, they should just read the newspaper.
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    Re: A failed attempt at googling highlights an issue with "media" today

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Real journalists dont drive personal agendas...nor should they be driving upper class agendas.....journalism was supposed to be for democracy...for all of us....not for the bosses.
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    Re: A failed attempt at googling highlights an issue with "media" today

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    First, let me say that if anyone can do better googling then me, please shoot it my way.

    I wanted to actually read the full, unedited response to the events in VA that Trump made today. I didn't want to read some "reporters" take on it, or some analysts opinion, or some bloggers condemnations. I wanted to actually read the unedited, uncommented on, raw comments by Trump to be able to do the crazy thing called thinking for myself.

    Now to me, the President of the United States responding to an event getting national coverage would be "NEWS"; I.E. something to actually report on, not just opine on. I would figure some news organization would put forth a transcript without commentary or attempts to question Trumps response.

    Yet despite what I would imagine to be a relatively reasonable and normal assumption for "reporting", I can't seem to find it.

    I've found analysis on it, I've found hot takes, I've found stories about public figures slamming Trump for it, and some indicating excerpts from Trumps response interspersed with other thoughts and coments; but no transcript. It seemed hot takes were far more preferred than just getting raw information into peoples hands. (but then again, how else does one get page clicks I guess)

    Does anyone have an actual written transcript that they've seen of the response?
    Do you read the newspaper? that might be more to your liking.
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    Re: A failed attempt at googling highlights an issue with "media" today

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    For future reference if you don't already have it bookmarked: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...es-and-remarks
    His comments still aren't up there though.
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    Re: A failed attempt at googling highlights an issue with "media" today

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Here ya go. Result #3 when I searched "trump charlottesville transcript."

    https://www.vox.com/2017/8/12/161389...tesville-rally

    May I just say, though, that journalism is not simply a transcription service for the government's official messages. It's their job to, ya know... analyze it, show the larger social context and reaction to it, etc. It has never been common practice for journalists to publish an entire transcript of anything more than a few sentences long, because that would leave precious little space for the actual analytical writing that is the main point of their job. You're confusing the fourth estate for the White House's press release department.
    No. The job of the news is to report the news and let the consumers decide for themselves. Leave the opinionating and analysis to the opinion shows. If the news can't even be bothered to report the facts accurately then they're not actually a news organization, they're and entertainment organization like CNN or MSNBC.
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    Re: A failed attempt at googling highlights an issue with "media" today

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    Sorry hawk. That's capitalism at work.
    No, it is stupidity at least and I argue immorality as well.
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    Re: A failed attempt at googling highlights an issue with "media" today

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Here ya go. Result #3 when I searched "trump charlottesville transcript."
    Awesome! Thank you! I guess I shouldn't have put "response" in my search. I was going "trump charlottesville response transcript" into google and wasn't having much luck.

    It's their job to, ya know... analyze it
    See, I don't agree there.

    That is part of their job. But I'd suggest the primary job of the NEWS is to REPORT the news. Not comment, analyze, or opine on it; but to simply provide it. Provide information to the public to make them aware and informed, allowing the PUBLIC to form opinions on it.

    Yes, to some degree, an extension of their job...which is sadly seemingly becoming the main part of their job in the race for ratings, ad revenue, clicks, etc...but to me that is not, nor should be, the primary duty of the news.

    Now I don't disagree with you. Providing a broader picture in terms of various reactions to a particular story, other relevant facts to the story, etc is absolutely part of that news REPORTING. But giving the writers opinion/analysis of a situation is not, and never has been, my impression of the purpose of the news.

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