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Bias of the Uneducated Commentator

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Interesting bit to note here in the following graphic.

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lol...yeah, let's trust the dropouts. :lol:
 
calamity said:
Interesting bit to note here in the following graphic.

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lol...yeah, let's trust the dropouts. :lol:
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You're not posting all of Rachel's degrees. She has to have a top level degree in Drama and filling a 1 hour slot of news and commercials, with 5-6 minutes of news!
 
TheGoverness said:
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You shouldn't be ashamed.
These type of people attach their identity to a piece of paper, that millions of others have done.
It's as if they're unique, but they're not.

Brilliant people the world over have never stepped into a university and have done amazing things.
They're usually autodidacts and don't need to be lead by nose.
 
calamity said:
Interesting bit to note here in the following graphic.

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lol...yeah, let's trust the dropouts. :lol:
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From CNN:

-- Oprah Winfrey left Tennessee State University in 1976 to begin her career in media (completing her degree in 1986). Top talkers without degrees include Larry King, Ellen DeGeneres, Jimmy Kimmel, Joy Behar, Rosie O'Donnell and conservative talkers Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.

-- Brian Williams attended three schools and completed 18 undergraduate credits before working his way to NBC News anchor. Peter Jennings, Walter Cronkite and John Chancellor were also anchors without degrees. And many reporters and columnists never completed college, including Nina Totenberg of NPR, Carl Bernstein of The Washington Post and former New York Times columnist and wordsmith William Safire.Lessons from famous college dropouts - CNN.com

Safire is one of my heroes. Perhaps you read his NY Times Magazine column "On Language"?

His political pubs:

From Wiki:

Political works
Safire's Political Dictionary, The Relations Explosion, Plunging into Politics, , and The First Dissident: The Book of Job in Today's Politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Safire

Pulitzer-Prize winner Safire was a dropout.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
You shouldn't be ashamed.
These type of people attach their identity to a piece of paper, that millions of others have done.
It's as if they're unique, but they're not.

Brilliant people the world over have never stepped into a university and have done amazing things.
They're usually autodidacts and don't need to be lead by nose.
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Oh there are plenty of really brilliant people that never spent a day in college. Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck are not among them.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Oh there are plenty of really brilliant people that never spent a day in college. Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck are not among them.
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It's simply false to assume that someone who has a degree is more competent in telling the truth, than someone who doesn't.
By that standard, we should assume that because Trump has a degree, he is more truthful, right, better, than any of the opposition that doesn't have a degree.

It's simply nothing but stupid credentialism.
Maddow is as much of an idiot as those 3 conservative commentators.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
You shouldn't be ashamed.
These type of people attach their identity to a piece of paper, that millions of others have done.
It's as if they're unique, but they're not.

Brilliant people the world over have never stepped into a university and have done amazing things.
They're usually autodidacts and don't need to be lead by nose.
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Oh, no. I'm not ashamed about being a college dropout or anything, because I'm not. I haven't even gone to college yet (I will in about a month). :lol:

I was just simply not going to entertain the usual Calamity bait.
 
TheGoverness said:
Oh, no. I'm not ashamed about being a college dropout or anything, because I'm not. I haven't even gone to college yet (I will in about a month). :lol:

I was just simply not going to entertain the usual Calamity bait.
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You will learn, that the vast majority of people attending college, aren't there to get educated, but to get a degree to get a job.
That certainly changes the value of the education people are getting.

It's not a noble pursuit to be informed, rational and logical, but to chase dollars.
Just my advice, no matter the degree you get, don't let it go to your head and retain a level of humility.
There are always people much smarter than we are and some of them have much less education.
 
TheGoverness said:
Oh, no. I'm not ashamed about being a college dropout or anything, because I'm not. I haven't even gone to college yet (I will in about a month). :lol:

I was just simply not going to entertain the usual Calamity bait.
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Posting more than a pointless meme would have cleared that up.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
You will learn, that the vast majority of people attending college, aren't there to get educated, but to get a degree to get a job.
That certainly changes the value of the education people are getting.

It's not a noble pursuit to be informed, rational and logical, but to chase dollars.
Just my advice, no matter the degree you get, don't let it go to your head and retain a level of humility.
There are always people much smarter than we are and some of them have much less education.
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I don't think that's completely true. Lots of people graduate with useless degrees that have no clue what they want to do in life.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
It's not totally true, but often true.
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But you can't make that generalization. I went to college just to get a job, but I would have a much better shot at getting any job with the only requirements being "must have a degree." Than a person who doesn't. I probably should have just studied technical exams to get certificates and I would have paid close to the same amount of money, but my resume would look twice as good, but College was the thing that brought me to that realization. I wouldn't have known what I do about the industry if I didn't go to school.
 
ModerateGOP said:
But you can't make that generalization. I went to college just to get a job, but I would have a much better shot at getting any job with the only requirements being "must have a degree." Than a person who doesn't. I probably should have just studied technical exams to get certificates and I would have paid close to the same amount of money, but my resume would look twice as good, but College was the thing that brought me to that realization. I wouldn't have known what I do about the industry if I didn't go to school.
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My overall point is that, getting an education should have little to do with getting a job.
We shouldn't conflate the two, "we" being the world.
 
calamity said:
Interesting bit to note here in the following graphic.

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lol...yeah, let's trust the dropouts. :lol:
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I'm a strong proponent of a good education.

But I must also point-out that the three college drop-outs above have higher earnings than the more educated Maddow. And the same can be said of the Jobs, Gates, and Zuckerberg drop-outs.

Education is generally the highest correlation to financial and other success amongst the wider populace, but there are always exceptions such as those above.

I once read that the educational demographic with the highest level of entrepreneurial success, is college drop-outs! No idea if that's accurate, but from my life's experiences it may be possible.
 
calamity said:
Interesting bit to note here in the following graphic.

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lol...yeah, let's trust the dropouts. :lol:
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funny how you don't have Ann Coulter up there
Cornell University with Honors
U of Michigan Law School-top of her Class, Order of the Coif, Law review
Dept. Of Justice Honors program


and of course so many on the left love to listen to actors who called Bush (BA Yale, MBA Harvard) stupid when you had

Martin Sheen-failed the U of Dayton entrance exam

and a bunch of others who didn't get through a year from college
 
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Harry Guerrilla said:
You will learn, that the vast majority of people attending college, aren't there to get educated, but to get a degree to get a job.
That certainly changes the value of the education people are getting.

It's not a noble pursuit to be informed, rational and logical, but to chase dollars.
Just my advice, no matter the degree you get, don't let it go to your head and retain a level of humility.
There are always people much smarter than we are and some of them have much less education.
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Excellent post, from start to finish! :thumbs:
 
I don't know whether that is funny or sad....

But it sure seem like evidence the war on reason continues…

You go to your boss and say: “I have a Ph.d in this subject, I am doing the same work as everyone else, but it time you respect I do it better and give me a raise” ...Boss: “No”

My rudest thoughts:

On average it cost 2.2x to special education student and 4x the resources. But I am sure all that extra investment will show up in their performance at the exact same tasks as the average student. :shock:

In other words,

That’s nice…hope she spent that time coming up with better ideas then much of the garbage she puts out on her show otherwise what a waste of a good intellect.

PS: Oh to be the professor that made glen beck or rush leave collage :mrgreen: What a bunch of loud mouth punks those two must have been.
 
ModerateGOP said:
But you can't make that generalization. I went to college just to get a job, but I would have a much better shot at getting any job with the only requirements being "must have a degree." Than a person who doesn't. I probably should have just studied technical exams to get certificates and I would have paid close to the same amount of money, but my resume would look twice as good, but College was the thing that brought me to that realization. I wouldn't have known what I do about the industry if I didn't go to school.
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This is interesting.

I love learning. I really do. And it doesn't have to be in a formal environment, though I like that too.

So I really enjoyed being on campus and in an academic environment. I loved being around people who were discussing interesting things and ideas, moving forward in their lives, and often enough were pretty smart too. I loved learning so much, that I eagerly looked forward to my non-major free-electives to learn subjects purely for my own personal enjoyment!

But in addition I had a passion and desire for my major, and wanted very much to succeed as a paid (hopefully well paid) professional in it. I may have enjoyed learning, but I also had a strong eye for the dollar!

With the above, I always was highly confused by my fellow students that were going to school simply to have a degree without feeling any passion for it. I could understand the students that had a passion for knowledge in a subject, regardless of economic potential. I also could understand students that had little passion for their major, but were driven by the perceived financial success they would enjoy upon graduation. And I could relate best to students like me, who desired both knowledge AND money! But I never quite got the students that desired neither. My suspicion was many were satisfying their parents' desires.
 
TurtleDude said:
funny how you don't have Ann Coulter up there
Cornell University with Honors
U of Michigan Law School-top of her Class, Order of the Coif, Law review
Dept. Of Justice Honors program


and of course so many on the left love to listen to actors who called Bush (BA Yale, MBA Harvard) stupid when you had

Martin Sheen-failed the U of Dayton entrance exam

and a bunch of others who didn't get through a year from college
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Bush wasn't stupid, as much as he was a really lousy speaker and communicator. No matter how smart or educated, poor speakers often get perceived as not very bright. The fip-side though, is those that suffer from these false perceptions often underestimate these type of individuals when in an adversarial position!

My pops was that way, having a poor grasp of English. But damn, he understood human nature and people-oriented problem resolution like few others. He also was shrewd as hell, and often underestimated!

But I must admit, G.W. may not have been the very sharpest mind to grace the hallowed halls of Harvard & Yale! :2razz:
 
TurtleDude said:
funny how you don't have Ann Coulter up there
Cornell University with Honors
U of Michigan Law School-top of her Class, Order of the Coif, Law review
Dept. Of Justice Honors program


and of course so many on the left love to listen to actors who called Bush (BA Yale, MBA Harvard) stupid when you had

Martin Sheen-failed the U of Dayton entrance exam

and a bunch of others who didn't get through a year from college
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Coulter is a very gifted troll...of course she would be highly educated.
 
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