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Shep Smith to Chris Wallace: ‘Why is it lie after lie after lie’

Captain Adverse said:
Ummm, the problem with this is:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...llary-clintons-server/?utm_term=.73dc014abdd4

a. The above quote was from WaPo and slanted in her favor. Other's citables indicate the number could be larger. Even so, this shows it was more than one document, and

Report: FBI pulls deleted emails from Hillary Clinton's server - CBS News

b. over 30,000 emails were allowed to be deleted and the disc was "scrubbed" to insure they could not be recovered by Clinton's legal team BEFORE the server was released to the FBI for forensic investigation.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulro...000-wiped-clean-clinton-e-mails/#3a0f0a029a67

Now you may not be aware, but evidence subpoenaed for a criminal investigation is not typically subject to modification. It is supposed to be seized and reviewed without alteration.

So the issue was about actual violations of federal secrecy law by an official of the U.S. Government (Hillary was Secretary of State at the time), and the possible destruction of evidence.

See the difference in the two situations? (Probably not) :coffeepap:
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The old "But... but... Hillary!" defense.

:inandout:
 
DiAnna said:
The old "But... but... Hillary!" defense.

:inandout:
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Ya gotta hand to 'em. Using "fake news" about HRC to further "fake news" about 45. Meanwhile, Putin sits back all sh** and giggles-like eyeing the 2018 and 2020 elections.
 
Fletch said:
He didn't lie and no one has been found to have lied either before the senate or on any forms. Those facts wont change no matter how childish your posts get.
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Indeed, he did and they have been found to have lied.

Pouting and stomping feet in impotent rage won't change reality.

SAD!
 
Fletch said:
Usually when someone answers a question with a question its because they don't have an actual answer.
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No, I'm asking, in other words, if you're for real. I don't understand how someone who presents themselves to be informed on the issues and then presents "alternative facts."

I don't expect an answer nor will I respond to your reply, if you do.
 
Parrish said:
No, I'm asking, in other words, if you're for real. I don't understand how someone who presents themselves to be informed on the issues and then presents "alternative facts."

I don't expect an answer nor will I respond to your reply, if you do.
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That's now two posts from you that havent addressed a simple question. Will you go for the trifecta?
 
Fletch said:
Are you 5? Stop playing with mommy and daddys computer little boy.
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Wow. The magical thinking butthurt lies deeply in your core.

Still, it doesn't dilute the deliciousness of your fail.

Yummy.

Sorry you're so emotionally wounded by reality.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Not very long and you know his name never seemed to turn up much anywhere, and there were always stories that Trump was refusing to managed by guys like this...the consultant class. It appeared the main thing this guy did was teach the Trump family how conventions work, and work to set things up to go the way the voters said it should go, because the elite have lost the right to decide these things over the objections of the majority.
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Paul Manafort is tied into this Russian investigation. The DOJ just forced him to register as a foreign agent.
WASHINGTON -- President Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, has registered with the Justice Department as a foreign agent for political consulting work he did for a Ukrainian political party, acknowledging that he coached party members on how to interact with U.S. government officials.
Manafort says in a Justice Department filing Tuesday that his firm, DMP International, received more than $17 million from the Party of Regions, the former pro-Russian ruling party in Ukraine, for consulting work from 2012 through 2014.Manafort is the second member of the Trump campaign to register as a foreign agent. In March, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn registered with the Justice Department for work his consulting firm performed for a Turkish businessman that he said could have aided the Turkish government.
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Paul Manafort retroactively registers with Justice Dept. as foreign agent - CBS News

Jerad Kushner--Trump's son in law some how managed to FORGET 100 foreign contactsand not report them on form 86.
In April, the Times reported that Kushner failed to inform the FBI of meetings he had with the head of a major Russian state-owned bank, Sergey Gorkov, who is a close confidant of Russian President Vladimir Putin, and with Russia's ambassador to the US, Sergey Kislyak, during the presidential transition. Since then, Kushner has reportedly updated the list of contacts three times, adding over 100 people, including Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer whom Kushner, Donald Trump Jr., and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort met with in June 2016. Trump Jr. agreed to the meeting after being promised damaging information about then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, as part of "Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump."
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Jared Kushner added more than 100 names to list of foreign contacts - Business Insider

The penalty for this is 5 years in prison.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001

Kushner also asked the Russian Ambassador for a private secure line to the Kremlin.
Former intelligence officials described Jared Kushner's reported attempt to set up a backchannel line of communication with Russia last December that would bypass the US' national security and intelligence apparatus as "off the map," "explosive," and "extremely dangerous."
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Reaction to Jared Kushner backchannel plan with Russia - Business Insider

I don't know if Jared Kushner still has a security clearance--but it needs to be yanked immediately. There are foreign interests in every corner of this administration. Why would Trump insist on having all these Russian contacts within his campaign and administration?

There's something going on, and it appears to me that Vladimir Putin has Trump by the cojones on something. Possibly that Dossier file.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...p-dossier-author-real-life-james-bond-n706376
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/russia-dossier-update/index.html
 
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Oreo said:
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I don't know if Jared Kushner still has a security clearance--but it needs to be yanked immediately. There are foreign interests in every corner of this administration.
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The globalists have had a lot of power in Washington for a lot of years, which was always the plan, they would spread and multiply everywhere on the globe, in DC like everywhere else. Am I seriously now to get concerned with your claim "There are foreign interests in every corner of this administration"? Does this not represent the new normal?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The globalists have had a lot of power in Washington for a lot of years, which was always the plan, they would spread and multiply everywhere on the globe, in DC like everywhere else. Am I seriously now to get concerned with your claim "There are foreign interests in every corner of this administration"? Does this not represent the new normal?
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I don't think this country is going to accept Foreign adversary interest's sitting in the Oval office--especially Russian. It was just 1-1/2 years ago that the Russians hacked into the Pentagon, and the hack was moving so fast through the Joint Chiefs of Staffs emails they had to shut it down for 2 weeks to replace hardware and software.
Russian hack on the Pentagon: Hackers struck last year at the heart of the U.S. military in 2015 - CBS News

They're always trying to hack into our power grids, especially if they're feeding U.S. Military bases and other critical security.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...611861a988f_story.html?utm_term=.ef528713eac7

Trump met with the Russians in the Oval office. He blocked out American media, allowed Russian media in. During the process he gave the Russians classified information, that had not gone through the process of being declassified. There were only 3 other Americans in that room. H.R. McMaster National Security Adviser, Dina Powell, Deputy National Security Adviser, and Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State. So which one of these 3 leaked to the Washington Post? These people swore an oath to defend this country against foreign and domestic enemies and it's very possible they consider Trump to be the enemy.
Who was in Trump's meeting with the Russians? - CNNPolitics.com

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U.S. Intelligence warned Isreali intelligence to not give classified information to Trump, citing he may be compromised by the Russians.
US spies 'warned Israel not to share intelligence with Trump'
Israel was warned not to give intel to Trump that could be leaked to Russia - Business Insider

Jerad Kushner asks for a private secure line to the Kremlin.
Washington Post: Kushner proposed secret communication channel with Kremlin - CNNPolitics.com

Trump goes to the G-20 summit, meets with Vladimir Putin and proposed a joint cbyer security union with them--:lol:
http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Republicans-react-Trump-Cyber-Security-Putin-11276153.php

Vladimir Putin has Trump by the Cajones on something, and we're going to find out what it is.
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
Wow. The magical thinking butthurt lies deeply in your core.

Still, it doesn't dilute the deliciousness of your fail.

Yummy.

Sorry you're so emotionally wounded by reality.
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Your posts make zero sense and amount to little more than trolling at this point. Childish trolling at that.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
You got right ahead and pretend to yourself whatever you have to to avoid confronting reality.
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The only reality that is confronting me is that I have wasted a considerable amount of time responding to your infantile posts. Consider that problem solved.
 
Fletch said:
The only reality that is confronting me is that I have wasted a considerable amount of time responding to your infantile posts. Consider that problem solved.
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Most excellent. The only reality here is that you're forced to turn to your imagination to convince yourself that you've somehow won something.

Same old, same old.
 
Fletch said:
The only reality that is confronting me is that I have wasted a considerable amount of time responding to your infantile posts. Consider that problem solved.
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Fletch, you must remember ...

troll and einstein for DP.jpg
 
A politician who lies. Man, that's something we've never seen before.
 
LowDown said:
A politician who lies. Man, that's something we've never seen before.
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You know it's more than that. He lies are like the way everyone else breathes. It's like his conscienceless lies are just a means to get something.
 
haymarket said:
Shep seemed far more committed to a more complete and honest view of this than Wallace did who even now seems to hold back a bit. But glad to see that even FOX - at least some of them there - are starting to face reality.
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I think it has dealt with reality since the beginning. Shep is liberal. That is why you like his approach to the news. It has nothing to do with Fox.

I love the line from Sheps grannie with the old adage about the tangled web of deception. Classic. Wallace replied "I don't know what to say."
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See response above.

I am interested to see some polling taken after Friday and see if any of the Trump voters are now having buyers remorse.
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Contrary to popular opinion I see no evidence that TV talking heads change many peoples' minds.
 
fmw said:
I think it has dealt with reality since the beginning. Shep is liberal. That is why you like his approach to the news. It has nothing to do with Fox.



See response above.



Contrary to popular opinion I see no evidence that TV talking heads change many peoples' minds.
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I simply was giving some credit where credit was warranted.
 
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