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Does Sarah Palin have the New York Times cornered?

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The New York Times may have difficulty defending itself against Sarah Palin's lawsuit. This will be worth watching.

The New York Times Is in Serious Trouble
John Hinderaker, PowerLine

. . . Ms. Palin can make a strong argument that the Times editorialists knew that their smear was a lie, based on reporting done by the Times itself. (The editorialists’ defense likely will have to be that they don’t read their own newspaper.) But at a minimum, it seems that the Times editorial was published with reckless disregard for whether it was true or not. It was a product of sheer hatred toward Palin.
The “actual malice” standard that applies to defamation cases brought by public figures is often considered to be impossibly high. It has little to do with the usual meaning of the word “malice.” Rather, it requires that a defendant publish a statement that he knows to be false, or about which he has no idea whether it is true or not, and publishes it anyway (“reckless disregard”). Sarah Palin’s lawsuit against the Times is the rare case where it is hard to see how the paper will be able to mount a defense.
It seems to me that the weakest aspect of Palin’s lawsuit is that she brought it in New York. If the case goes to trial, it likely will be heard by a jury consisting entirely of Democrats who share the New York Times’s antipathy toward Palin. Regardless of the facts, I think there is a serious risk that such a jury may return an unjust verdict against her. I sincerely hope her lawyers know something that I don’t.
 
The New York Times may have difficulty defending itself against Sarah Palin's lawsuit. This will be worth watching.

The New York Times Is in Serious Trouble
John Hinderaker, PowerLine

. . . Ms. Palin can make a strong argument that the Times editorialists knew that their smear was a lie, based on reporting done by the Times itself. (The editorialists’ defense likely will have to be that they don’t read their own newspaper.) But at a minimum, it seems that the Times editorial was published with reckless disregard for whether it was true or not. It was a product of sheer hatred toward Palin.
The “actual malice” standard that applies to defamation cases brought by public figures is often considered to be impossibly high. It has little to do with the usual meaning of the word “malice.” Rather, it requires that a defendant publish a statement that he knows to be false, or about which he has no idea whether it is true or not, and publishes it anyway (“reckless disregard”). Sarah Palin’s lawsuit against the Times is the rare case where it is hard to see how the paper will be able to mount a defense.
It seems to me that the weakest aspect of Palin’s lawsuit is that she brought it in New York. If the case goes to trial, it likely will be heard by a jury consisting entirely of Democrats who share the New York Times’s antipathy toward Palin. Regardless of the facts, I think there is a serious risk that such a jury may return an unjust verdict against her. I sincerely hope her lawyers know something that I don’t.

I think she has a good case and it will not likely go to trial. I think they will settle with her just to limit the embarrassment.
 
I think she has a good case and it will not likely go to trial. I think they will settle with her just to limit the embarrassment.

Depends on what her objective is, and what her lawyers' objective is. If she's represented by a conservative legal action group then embarrassment for the NYT may be more important than money damages.
 
Depends on what her objective is, and what her lawyers' objective is. If she's represented by a conservative legal action group then embarrassment for the NYT may be more important than money damages.

Absolutely.
 
The New York Times may have difficulty defending itself against Sarah Palin's lawsuit. This will be worth watching.

The New York Times Is in Serious Trouble
John Hinderaker, PowerLine

. . . Ms. Palin can make a strong argument that the Times editorialists knew that their smear was a lie, based on reporting done by the Times itself. (The editorialists’ defense likely will have to be that they don’t read their own newspaper.) But at a minimum, it seems that the Times editorial was published with reckless disregard for whether it was true or not. It was a product of sheer hatred toward Palin.
The “actual malice” standard that applies to defamation cases brought by public figures is often considered to be impossibly high. It has little to do with the usual meaning of the word “malice.” Rather, it requires that a defendant publish a statement that he knows to be false, or about which he has no idea whether it is true or not, and publishes it anyway (“reckless disregard”). Sarah Palin’s lawsuit against the Times is the rare case where it is hard to see how the paper will be able to mount a defense.
It seems to me that the weakest aspect of Palin’s lawsuit is that she brought it in New York. If the case goes to trial, it likely will be heard by a jury consisting entirely of Democrats who share the New York Times’s antipathy toward Palin. Regardless of the facts, I think there is a serious risk that such a jury may return an unjust verdict against her. I sincerely hope her lawyers know something that I don’t.

I guess you decided that championing the First Amendment is not relevant in this case.

Strange, given your slavish devotion to it in other threads.
 
I guess you decided that championing the First Amendment is not relevant in this case.

Strange, given your slavish devotion to it in other threads.

The First Amendment is why the bar for libel has been set so high. The question is whether the NYT surpassed it.
 
The New York Times may have difficulty defending itself against Sarah Palin's lawsuit. This will be worth watching.

The New York Times Is in Serious Trouble
John Hinderaker, PowerLine

. . . Ms. Palin can make a strong argument that the Times editorialists knew that their smear was a lie, based on reporting done by the Times itself. (The editorialists’ defense likely will have to be that they don’t read their own newspaper.) But at a minimum, it seems that the Times editorial was published with reckless disregard for whether it was true or not. It was a product of sheer hatred toward Palin.
The “actual malice” standard that applies to defamation cases brought by public figures is often considered to be impossibly high. It has little to do with the usual meaning of the word “malice.” Rather, it requires that a defendant publish a statement that he knows to be false, or about which he has no idea whether it is true or not, and publishes it anyway (“reckless disregard”). Sarah Palin’s lawsuit against the Times is the rare case where it is hard to see how the paper will be able to mount a defense.
It seems to me that the weakest aspect of Palin’s lawsuit is that she brought it in New York. If the case goes to trial, it likely will be heard by a jury consisting entirely of Democrats who share the New York Times’s antipathy toward Palin. Regardless of the facts, I think there is a serious risk that such a jury may return an unjust verdict against her. I sincerely hope her lawyers know something that I don’t.

Possibly the jury will return a just verdict against her. The two corrections mitigate against actual malice, and her damages may be nonexistent.
 
Possibly the jury will return a just verdict against her. The two corrections mitigate against actual malice, and her damages may be nonexistent.

The corrections could as well be seen as acknowledgement of actual malice in the offending story.
 
The corrections could as well be seen as acknowledgement of actual malice in the offending story.

Not likely. Corrections are comparable or at least similar to retractions which can legally cure a libel of malice.
 
That's why we have courts and juries.

What happens will depend on which path will net the attorneys for both sides the maximum amount of cash with the least amount of effort. Neither client will control the outcome. Who did what to whom, at this point, is almost irrelevant.
 
What happens will depend on which path will net the attorneys for both sides the maximum amount of cash with the least amount of effort. Neither client will control the outcome. Who did what to whom, at this point, is almost irrelevant.

I disagree.
 
I disagree.

I expected you to. I personally believe, for the appropriate amount of cash, Palin will sign an agreement never to speak of the deal and Times will not have to admit any wrongdoing. The amount will be negotiated by the attorneys. Almost everyone is for sale, all that there is to negotiate is the price.
 
I expected you to. I personally believe, for the appropriate amount of cash, Palin will sign an agreement never to speak of the deal and Times will not have to admit any wrongdoing. The amount will be negotiated by the attorneys. Almost everyone is for sale, all that there is to negotiate is the price.

We'll have to disagree. I think the non-monetary gains/losses are more important to both sides.
 
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