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Interesting takes on the same story (Bill Maher and expletives)

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Interesting takes on the same story (Bill Maher and expletives)

Here are four different versions of the same incident. What jumps out at you? Are all the versions basically the same? Is there anything they emphasize more than others? Is there anything they ignore?

Los Angeles Times: Bill Maher's use of racial slur on HBO show draws criticism

New York Times: Bill Maher Uses Racial Slur on ‘Real Time’

Fox News: Bill Maher's use of N-word on his show 'inexcusable,' HBO responds

New York Daily News: Bill Maher is no stranger to controversial, racial and sexual statements

What jumps out at you? To me, what jumps out is the focus on race. Now, we all know news needs to be profitable, and profit comes from advertisers (primarily), and they can charge more for advertising with a larger audience, and race is controversial, and controversy sells, yada yada yada. To that extent it's understandable.

What's missing? To me, what's missing is context. Where's the context? Maher said a bad word. Ok, but *why* did Sasse invite Maher to come work in the fields in Nebraska to begin with? Context would have been really helpful, albeit admittedly not as controversial, refer to the above paragraph.

Sasse recently released a book about raising kids to have a good work ethic, and so on. I have purchased the book and am about 50 pages in, but I digress. Anyway, it's not a book about race, it's a book about raising kids. I strongly suspect they were talking about Sasse's book and raising kids, but you'd never know what they were talking about at all based on these four articles. None of them mentioned a single word about the book, which would have provided context. Only one of them, The NYT, even mentioned anything slightly hinting at context when they said, "...was talking to Mr. Sasse on his program about the boundaries between adolescence and maturity,...", but it still would leave the reader wondering how this came up.

I strongly suspect Sasse invited Maher to come work in the fields so Maher could experience some work ethic. If so, it was Maher, solely, who took it to race.

I suspect Maher was trying to make a cheap point, and it backfired. But really this is an example of how we get sidetracked by the superficial. Was Maher correct in his actions? No, he was not, and he should be called out for it. But to ignore the context leaves the impression with many that Sasse is somehow complicit, and it shows how distractable the average population is. Nobody really cares about raising our kids, but say a bad and unapproved word, and oooohhhh, everybody gets their panties in a wad and that's what makes the headlines. That's the only part of it that most people want to talk about.
 
I sense that Maher thought that since he's a "good liberal" he could get away with it.

Maher fancies himself a libertarian -- a left-leaning one, to be sure, but still.
 
Maher fancies himself a libertarian -- a left-leaning one, to be sure, but still.

Having watched many of his shows over the last couple years - I distinctly remember tearing "liberals" a new one on more than one occasion. He certainly is no apologist for liberalism or liberal politics.
 
Pretty much this. Regardless of context that word is verboten to almost all crackers. Maher thought he was good with the collective but this is one thing that transcends politics and very much brings out the most base of reactions. Having said that, I think people need to get over it. Just another triggering moment that damages the credibility of the triggered.




I sense that Maher thought that since he's a "good liberal" he could get away with it.
 
Having watched many of his shows over the last couple years - I distinctly remember tearing "liberals" a new one on more than one occasion. He certainly is no apologist for liberalism or liberal politics.
He absolutely has done that, you bet, and for that I have a certain amount of respect for him, he's not a typical knee-jerk reactionary simply performing for a select audience. But, he does spout the typical liberal point-of-view more often than not.
 
He absolutely has done that, you bet, and for that I have a certain amount of respect for him, he's not a typical knee-jerk reactionary simply performing for a select audience. But, he does spout the typical liberal point-of-view more often than not.

He certainly is left wing - no doubt about that. But I think Kobe is right that he is something of a left libertarian ..... and I would add with a heavy dash of Bernie Sanders Progressive Democrat in there as well.
 
He certainly is left wing - no doubt about that. But I think Kobe is right that he is something of a left libertarian ..... and I would add with a heavy dash of Bernie Sanders Progressive Democrat in there as well.

And I think that's a fair observation.
 
Bill was completely in character and offended nobody because he was describing himself. Comedians always use racy language.
 
Having watched many of his shows over the last couple years - I distinctly remember tearing "liberals" a new one on more than one occasion. He certainly is no apologist for liberalism or liberal politics.

Outside of a few areas (Political Correctness, Islam, and Free Speech) he is very liberal. He doesn't hesitate to call out people on either side if it is something he disagrees with. It is one reason I like listening to his show (I get it on a podcast) even though I disagree with him on most issues.
 
Interesting takes on the same story (Bill Maher and expletives)

Here are four different versions of the same incident. What jumps out at you? Are all the versions basically the same? Is there anything they emphasize more than others? Is there anything they ignore?

Los Angeles Times: Bill Maher's use of racial slur on HBO show draws criticism

New York Times: Bill Maher Uses Racial Slur on ‘Real Time’

Fox News: Bill Maher's use of N-word on his show 'inexcusable,' HBO responds

New York Daily News: Bill Maher is no stranger to controversial, racial and sexual statements

What jumps out at you? To me, what jumps out is the focus on race. Now, we all know news needs to be profitable, and profit comes from advertisers (primarily), and they can charge more for advertising with a larger audience, and race is controversial, and controversy sells, yada yada yada. To that extent it's understandable.

What's missing? To me, what's missing is context. Where's the context? Maher said a bad word. Ok, but *why* did Sasse invite Maher to come work in the fields in Nebraska to begin with? Context would have been really helpful, albeit admittedly not as controversial, refer to the above paragraph.

Sasse recently released a book about raising kids to have a good work ethic, and so on. I have purchased the book and am about 50 pages in, but I digress. Anyway, it's not a book about race, it's a book about raising kids. I strongly suspect they were talking about Sasse's book and raising kids, but you'd never know what they were talking about at all based on these four articles. None of them mentioned a single word about the book, which would have provided context. Only one of them, The NYT, even mentioned anything slightly hinting at context when they said, "...was talking to Mr. Sasse on his program about the boundaries between adolescence and maturity,...", but it still would leave the reader wondering how this came up.

I strongly suspect Sasse invited Maher to come work in the fields so Maher could experience some work ethic. If so, it was Maher, solely, who took it to race.

I suspect Maher was trying to make a cheap point, and it backfired. But really this is an example of how we get sidetracked by the superficial. Was Maher correct in his actions? No, he was not, and he should be called out for it. But to ignore the context leaves the impression with many that Sasse is somehow complicit, and it shows how distractable the average population is. Nobody really cares about raising our kids, but say a bad and unapproved word, and oooohhhh, everybody gets their panties in a wad and that's what makes the headlines. That's the only part of it that most people want to talk about.

Maher was doing what many...even around here...do. When in a discussion, they respond with something they think is witty and cutting...but is frequently irrelevant to the topic and downright disgusting. It passes for humor with some people.

I think he deserves to be called out on it.
 
I sense that Maher thought that since he's a "good liberal" he could get away with it.

I sense that since Maher is an attention whore that he didn't care if he got away with it.
 
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