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Fox News falls into 3rd place in primetime ratings for the first time in nearly 17 yr

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Fox News last week fell into third place during primetime in the coveted advertising demographic of 25-54 year-old viewers, the first time it had done so in 17 years, as rival network MSNBC surged into first place.

Adweek reported that last week was the first time that Fox finished third among cable-news networks in the coveted demo since June 2000, when the right-leaning network was still in its infancy.[/FONT
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According to Nielsen, MSNBC led the three cable networks between 8-11 p.m., averaging 611,000 viewers between the ages of 25 and 54, while dominating with 2,440,000 viewers overall. CNN came in second with 589,000 in the coveted demographic, while remaining in third in total viewers with 1,649,000. Fox slid to to third with 497,000 viewers in the demo, and 2,405,000 overall.



Fox News, MSNBC ratings: 3rd place finish for first time in 17 years - Business Insider

Gee that is a shame. :lamo
 
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Going forward, Fox News is in deep doo-doo as it's average viewer is old...like well into their 60's.

Fox News maybe in danger of literally having it's viewers die out unless they radically change the way they present the news.
 
Re: Fox News falls into 3rd place in primetime ratings for the first time in nearly 1

Going forward, Fox News is in deep doo-doo as it's average viewer is old...like well into their 60's.

Fox News maybe in danger of literally having it's viewers die out unless they radically change the way they present the news.

Got some stats?
 
Re: Fox News falls into 3rd place in primetime ratings for the first time in nearly 1

Going forward, Fox News is in deep doo-doo as it's average viewer is old...like well into their 60's.

Fox News maybe in danger of literally having it's viewers die out unless they radically change the way they present the news.

Haven't you heard that 70 is the new 50? ;)
 
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Political Controversy sells, plain and simple. Fox News made a killing during the Obama era because they were constantly finding and every reason to grill the Obama administration. Along with that, fringe sites like Briebart and Infowars was able to blossom in that chaotic fire. Now CNN and MSNBC will see that kind of growth by roasting the Trump administration.
 
Re: Fox News falls into 3rd place in primetime ratings for the first time in nearly 1

Political Controversy sells, plain and simple. Fox News made a killing during the Obama era because they were constantly finding and every reason to grill the Obama administration. Along with that, fringe sites like Briebart and Infowars was able to blossom in that chaotic fire. Now CNN and MSNBC will see that kind of growth by roasting the Trump administration.
I do indeed think you're on to something, here! :thumbs:
 
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Fox going down is good news... the other MSM sources will suffer a similar fate lest they change the current way that news is managed.

As for it going down, it will cause a bunch of people who are totally lied to (whether it be by Fox, CNN, MSN, etc.) to pursue news online which is good news. These corporate news sources are complete garbage and deserve to go.
 
Re: Fox News falls into 3rd place in primetime ratings for the first time in nearly 1

The Democratic base after Trump's victory which no one thought possible is in a funk now & needs be fed
anti-Trumo nastiness & disdain to re-affirm their feelings about this man. After all Obama just about led his
party into oblivion with a lesser hold on government office holders since the 1920's.

Watching Rachelle Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, Wolf Blitzer, Jake Tapper & Don Lemon is therapy to them,
I heard that the Late Shows & Saturday night live are enjoying huge ratings also & just giving them an
occasional cursory glance it's easy to see why.

I felt bad for poor Don Lemon tonight so hoping for the Democrat to win in Montana tonight, he thought it
possible because of the beatdown the republican gave to a reporter the day before the election. When the
first tallies were coming in and with about 20% reporting he was elated with Quist leading hoping tomorrow
he could ramble on about Trump losing support among the people.

Trump is the greatest change candidate since Roosevelt over 80 years ago. Before him all Republican winning candidates
except possibly Reagan were Democrat light even about 1/3 of the Republicans in congress are wary of the reactionary
views of Trump. Will he bring about 100% of the change the voters sent him into office to do, not a chance but if he
can get 1/3 of what he plans to do done he'll be on his way to Make America Great Again.
 
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Got some stats?

Problem is, Fox can't keep this audience forever. Its core audience is old, white and conservative, and America is becoming more multicultural and progressive. While Fox News was number one among cable news outlets in the all-important 25-to-54 year-old demographic last year, the demo only accounts for 19% of its audience.

The median age of the average primetime Fox News viewer is 68 -- five years older than MSNBC, and nine years older than CNN. Meanwhile, 92% of Fox News viewers are white, according to Nielsen. By contrast, MSNBC's audience is 67% white, while CNN's is 73% white.

At Fox News, Grand Old Problems - Jul. 27, 2016

Apparently your Google is too complicated for you.
 
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Firing Bill O'reilly wasnt going to be inconsequential.

Of-course their viewership would decline

Agreed.

Further, now that Murdock's more liberal sons have taken over operations, and that too is having it's impact.

Perhaps Fox news will go brain damaged liberal like all the rest, and watch their ratings fall below MSNBC, as the conservatives on Fox migrate to another network, possibly / probably a new one, taking all their viewership with them.
 
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I do indeed think you're on to something, here! :thumbs:

It is a factor. Of course the left is going to chortle when Fox stumbles and gives them no credit at all for being king of the mountain for the last 17 years and that spans far more than the Obama administration. But the median age of the Fox viewers is about 10 years older than that for CNN and MSNBC and all three appeal to the senior citizen demographic more than any other.

Fox didn't even experience a minor blip in ratings losing Megyn Kelly and Martha MacCallum has been holding her own in Greta VanSustern's old 7 o'clock eastern slot. Losing O'Reilly though was a huge blow and though people like Tucker Carlson, those were really big shoes to fill and Tucker just doesn't have that certain X factor that O'Reilly had. But then Rupert Murdoch's sons who are currently calling the shots at Fox don't have their old man's savvy or Roger Ailes' savvy.

But ultimately it seems to be hatred for Trump driving CNN and MSNBC better numbers these days. And that is unlikely to sustain them for the long haul.

. . . If a juggernaut like Fox News is struggling, then you know the mainstream media is near death. It may not look like it, since CNN and MSNBC are making up for it with stronger ratings. However, those ratings are only being fueled by people who hate Trump. That’s not a very good business model because he’s not going to be around forever.

And in any case, the ratings for these channels are pretty intermittent. Liberals are tuning in when they think Trump is going to be impeached, and then dropping out when nothing comes of his controversies. So what little success these channels have now, doesn’t have any staying power.

The bottom line is this: The only mainstream news channel that was consistently successful has been knocked down, and it probably won’t be the last time this happens. Fox is now reaching the same popularity levels as CNN and MSNBC, which have been a ratings joke for years. These channels are now in a battle for survival, as they compete for dwindling ratings that are routinely dwarfed by internet cat videos. The establishment mouthpieces are officially on death’s door, and it’s only a matter of time before they become completely irrelevant. . .​
The Final Nail in the Mainstream TV News Coffin: Fox News Ratings Plummet to 17 Year Low
 
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People simply don't trust cable news anymore to deliver facts. They just get endless empty political diatribes that lead to nothing.

This collusion story...going nowhere. Just daily blather of opinionated nonsense.

I know I'm done with that crap. I only tune in for live breaking news, and I occasionally watch Baier. The rest is filth.
 
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Agreed.

Further, now that Murdock's more liberal sons have taken over operations, and that too is having it's impact.

Perhaps Fox news will go brain damaged liberal like all the rest, and watch their ratings fall below MSNBC, as the conservatives on Fox migrate to another network, possibly / probably a new one, taking all their viewership with them.

I've switched to Fox Finanacial over 2 years ago Lou Dobbs & Charles Payne are far better than the Fox anchors in my
TV watchtime 6&7 EST.

Sometimes I watch CNN, when things look dim for the dems, when they seem to be dying ants grasping onto a straw.
 
Re: Fox News falls into 3rd place in primetime ratings for the first time in nearly 1

Going forward, Fox News is in deep doo-doo as it's average viewer is old...like well into their 60's.

Fox News maybe in danger of literally having it's viewers die out unless they radically change the way they present the news.

Actually, they are introducing more young (and hot) talent. Fox business seems unscathed.
 
Re: Fox News falls into 3rd place in primetime ratings for the first time in nearly 1

Political Controversy sells, plain and simple. Fox News made a killing during the Obama era because they were constantly finding and every reason to grill the Obama administration. Along with that, fringe sites like Briebart and Infowars was able to blossom in that chaotic fire. Now CNN and MSNBC will see that kind of growth by roasting the Trump administration.

Yes, I certainly agree, although I believe CNN is more center than either FOX or MSNBC. They've aired a lot of Town Hall meetings with guest Republicans.

The one thing I don't see from MSNBC or CNN is the common practice at FOX of resorting to character attacks and lies. Wow, and MSNBC certainly has a lot of ammo, if they wanted to do so - Locker Room Banter, Mocking Disabled, etc. If the tables were turned, FOX would air this footage over and over. Remember the following:
1. The Birther lie.
2. Comparisons of Obama to Hitler, Castro references.
3. Talking about Obama's father incessantly, even though Barack only met him once.
4. Muslim insinuations.

MSNBC attacks Trump's policies, not his character.
 
Re: Fox News falls into 3rd place in primetime ratings for the first time in nearly 1

Going forward, Fox News is in deep doo-doo as it's average viewer is old...like well into their 60's.

Fox News maybe in danger of literally having it's viewers die out unless they radically change the way they present the news.

Just want you to know I am in my 70's and have never watched Fox although I have tuned in from time to time just to see how they would reports certain news. I know I am in the minority for the most viewers, but I am glad to see them being taken down a peg or two. There is hope yet for truth in journalism!
 
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Just want you to know I am in my 70's and have never watched Fox although I have tuned in from time to time just to see how they would reports certain news. I know I am in the minority for the most viewers, but I am glad to see them being taken down a peg or two. There is hope yet for truth in journalism!

I'm curious as to what "journalism" you view as being unbiased?
 
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I'm curious as to what "journalism" you view as being unbiased?

MSM but no cable news.
 
Re: Fox News falls into 3rd place in primetime ratings for the first time in nearly 1

MSM but no cable news.

So that would be....
 
Re: Fox News falls into 3rd place in primetime ratings for the first time in nearly 1

Yes, I certainly agree, although I believe CNN is more center than either FOX or MSNBC. They've aired a lot of Town Hall meetings with guest Republicans.
The one thing I don't see from MSNBC or CNN is the common practice at FOX of resorting to character attacks and lies. Wow, and MSNBC certainly has a lot of ammo, if they wanted to do so - LockerMSNBC attacks Trump's policies, not his character.

Well, I think they do both, but obviously watching Fox is like an alternate, shameless reality.

They aren't even attempting to portray news, it's simply "opposition propaganda". I spent 30 minutes watching Tucker on FOX talking about how Hillary is so evil, and MSM is all liberal, all lies, and not reporting on anything other than attacking Trump <- that's main stream news? That main stream news is bogus? According to.....Tucker/Trump? And when they do occasionally have short "real news" segments that are not hosted bust just a montage of sorts, it talks about the same things that are onCNN and to a degree, MSNBC!

But the Fox host picks back up and doesn't talk about that news segment...he just resumes attacking liberals, and Hillary. Do you have to be half-senile to think this is plausibly news?
 
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