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Maddow blames Venezuela unrest on Trump FEC filings

Master PO said:
i was not asking for a link from the OP, so your failure in following what is going on shows.

i asked for a link from Tanngrisnir to maddow didn't say it, and i was not supplied with one because it did not exist
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I wasn't even talking to you. Besides, you are implying that you do not understand how burden of proof works.
 
[video]http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/04/21/rachel-maddow-blames-venezuelan-unrest-on-donations-to-trump-campaign/[/video]

please don't assert something when there is nothing to show that.

so iam not saying you were incorrect, but how you conducted your actions
 
Phys251 said:
I wasn't even talking to you. Besides, you are implying that you do not understand how burden of proof works.
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but i do, if someone says no that didn't happen or he didn't say that, then have something to fall back on don't just assert it.
 
Master PO said:
but i do, if someone says no that didn't happen or he didn't say that, then have something to fall back on don't just assert it.
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Mmm, yeah, okay then.
 
After reading the back and forth in this thread so far, I have to ask... Are the people on a TV "news" show responsible for the pictures and printed words that accompany their talking, or are they not and the viewer is expected to separate them into three completely unrelated events that may just coincidentally happen simultaneously and appear to any reasonable person to actually be related?

By the assertions made by some in this thread, it would appear that I must have been watching TV news incorrectly for over 50 years. Amazing.
 
Beaudreaux said:
After reading the back and forth in this thread so far, I have to ask... Are the people on a TV "news" show responsible for the pictures and printed words that accompany their talking, or are they not and the viewer is expected to separate them into three completely unrelated events that may just coincidentally happen simultaneously and appear to any reasonable person to actually be related?

By the assertions made by some in this thread, it would appear that I must have been watching TV news incorrectly for over 50 years. Amazing.
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Ms. Maddow accepted responsibility for the chyron which ran while she was talking about the riots/demonstrations in Venezuela and she apologized for it. However, she does not physically control the person who is typing the words which flow across the bottom of the TV screen. Errors have been found in the chyrons of many news shows but not all of the talking heads have been willing to accept responsibility for the mistakes of their underlings.
 
Somerville said:
Ms. Maddow accepted responsibility for the chyron which ran while she was talking about the riots/demonstrations in Venezuela and she apologized for it. However, she does not physically control the person who is typing the words which flow across the bottom of the TV screen. Errors have been found in the chyrons of many news shows but not all of the talking heads have been willing to accept responsibility for the mistakes of their underlings.
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Well, good for her.
 
So... Maddow starts off by showing riot scenes from 2014 and immediately segues to outrage over Trump donations while the riot scenes are still playing. Am I NOT supposed to recognize, immediately, that the implication is that the people in Venezuela are in the same state of fervor over the Trump donations as they were in 2014?
 
jmotivator said:
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Super sleuthing, Rachel. :roll:
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There IS truth in that... I saw a an interview with 2 time Pulitzer winner Allan Narin who spent over a year in Venezuela and has linked Trump money and a Trump supporter to the trouble there. In a video The supporter was seated at a table wherein about 100 guys were swearing allegiance to ISIS; in Venezuela! The flags were there and everything, so that's who;s getting involved in this thing down there. I'll dog up the story and post it.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
So... Maddow starts off by showing riot scenes from 2014 and immediately segues to outrage over Trump donations while the riot scenes are still playing. Am I NOT supposed to recognize, immediately, that the implication is that the people in Venezuela are in the same state of fervor over the Trump donations as they were in 2014?
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That's precisely what she wanted her viewers to believe.
 
that moment when people like maddow were praising venezuela years ago when the oil was still booming because it was an ideal model for a socialism that worked and had the added identity politik bonus of it being a south american country as opposed to it "working" in all white scandinavia.

so then it ends up failing because socialism is ****ing retarded and you just blame it on orange hitler because why not
 
This pretty much sums up everything she has to say during the Trump presidency.

 
Tanngrisnir said:
And, as has already been pointed out, she didn't make that claim.
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Sorry, but the screen caption said "Unrest in Venezuela over Trump donations" while Maddow said "Venezuelans are enraged by this brand new FEC filing from the White House" and at the same time in the background showing video footage of the riots taking place there.

Just skip to the :25 second mark and see it for yourself:




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jet57 said:
There IS truth in that... I saw a an interview with 2 time Pulitzer winner Allan Narin who spent over a year in Venezuela and has linked Trump money and a Trump supporter to the trouble there. In a video The supporter was seated at a table wherein about 100 guys were swearing allegiance to ISIS; in Venezuela! The flags were there and everything, so that's who;s getting involved in this thing down there. I'll dog up the story and post it.
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This may be the video https://www.democracynow.org/2017/4/21/shocking_expose_reveals_trump_associates_isis

However, this video shows a meeting in Indonesia - nothing to do with Venezuela
 
Somerville said:
Ms Maddow DID NOT blame Trump for Venezuelan unrest, although when one only reads and trusts the various right wing blogs and websites, one would tend to believe the story.

The entire accusation is due to the chyron as shown in the screen shot of the OP. A banner which was not her responsibility at the time it ran but one for which she did take responsibility following the broadcast and for which she has apologized.

Lots, and I do mean "lots", of the usual suspects immediately jumped on the accusation and every one of them uses the one screen shot to back up their claims.

The question remains: Where did the $107 million come from and what has happened to those dollars since the inauguration? We know where $500,000 came from owing to FEC documents.
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You mean conservatives attack MSNBC like liberals attack Fox? Who would have thought?
 
Josie said:
She never said "Venezuelans are enraged anew"? Better watch that again.
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How is that the same as blaming demonstrations on the donation? They are broke and the Govt. sent 500K to Trump. That certainly would be grounds to be "enraged". Are you saying that is not true? That the people are happy about that revelation? That is too funny. You are just mad because Rachel's ratings are beating FOX.
 
iguanaman said:
How is that the same as blaming demonstrations on the donation? They are broke and the Govt. sent 500K to Trump. That would be grounds to be "enraged". Are you saying that is not true? That the people are happy about that revelation? That is too funny. You are just mad because Rachel's ratings are beating FOX.
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She said they were "enraged anew" while still showing the video of the violent protests. This isn't hard to figure out here.

I don't give a crap about anyone's ratings.
 
Josie said:
She said they were "enraged anew" while still showing the video of the violent protests. This isn't hard to figure out here.

I don't give a crap about anyone's ratings.
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So you believe that they were not enraged at all by the Trump donation so that was the "lie"? Don't you find it strange that a communist country with close ties to Russia would spend their last dime on Trump's inauguration?
 
iguanaman said:
So you believe that they were not enraged at all by the Trump donation so that was the "lie"?
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I don't know -- she offered no evidence that Venezuelans were enraged except the video of the violent protests (which we now know was deceptive).
 
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