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Define "fake news".

Fake news is made-up news. Until this year it's not something that has been terribly open to nuance. Now the working definition of fake news is "news that paints trump in an unflattering light."

Fake news is made-up news with a heavy propaganda value. It's made-up so that the public perception can be manipulated, so that some agenda can be advanced.
 
Define "fake news".

What does that mean to you? Untruthful? Biased? Truthful, but incomplete / slanted? Inconvenient?

I seem to be seeing a lot of people labeling truthful news as "fake news" and it seems to be only because it's counter to what they want it to be. Keep this up, and the phrase will be rendered absolutely meaningless within a few months.

I agree with your sentiment. But, I am thrilled that people are questioning the sources of where people receive their information and why the information should be considered legitimate truth. I think it could lead to more trust worthy news media but I am not 100% conclusive on that.
 
I agree with your sentiment. But, I am thrilled that people are questioning the sources of where people receive their information and why the information should be considered legitimate truth. I think it could lead to more trust worthy news media but I am not 100% conclusive on that.
I am with you that it is good that more people are examining / questioning their news sources. My big fear is that too many people are only doing so out of confirmation bias.
 
I am with you that it is good that more people are examining / questioning their news sources. My big fear is that too many people are only doing so out of confirmation bias.

By "confirmation bias" I assume that meant "to confirm their own bias"? Which I would totally agree with. I think it would be more beneficial if people would try to disprove their bias before they try to hold it to be conclusively true.
 
By "confirmation bias" I assume that meant "to confirm their own bias"? Which I would totally agree with. I think it would be more beneficial if people would try to disprove their bias before they try to hold it to be conclusively true.


Confirmation bias occurs from the direct influence of desire on beliefs. When people would like a certain idea/concept to be true, they end up believing it to be true. They are motivated by wishful thinking. This error leads the individual to stop gathering information when the evidence gathered so far confirms the views (prejudices) one would like to be true.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/science-choice/201504/what-is-confirmation-bias
 
The corrupt press blatantly say its their job not to report who, what, and where but to tell the people what to think.

"he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think. And that, that is our job."

MSNBC Anchor: "Our Job" Is To "Control Exactly What People Think"

MSNBC Anchor: "Our Job" Is To "Control Exactly What People Think" | Zero Hedge


These people are out of control and need a spanking.


I found it refreshing last night for a president to issue a quote and have the source standing right in front of him.

How novel! A real issue with a real source.

People don't trust the media for a simple reason. They lie often and loudly to push their own agenda.

I wish we could come at this from the other side.

"Here is a great story by a great reporter that needed to be told."--I am sure it happens. I just haven't seen it in an age. Mostly its the cherry picking word parsing that attempts to make an otherwise interesting story something fantastically magical. Maybe its a combination of agenda and monetary compensation that makes this such a nauseating affair.

There are a mountain of examples.

Honesty needs to be a priority somehow for any of this "falsify a story procedure" to change.

I have to think some more about how to get there.
 
To be fair and balanced, the very first is still foremost.

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Not really. The other side has learned well.

Meh. The term was coined as a nickname for Fox. Trump has simply applied it elsewhere by repeating it by the minute..
 
Define "fake news".

What does that mean to you? Untruthful? Biased? Truthful, but incomplete / slanted? Inconvenient?

I seem to be seeing a lot of people labeling truthful news as "fake news" and it seems to be only because it's counter to what they want it to be. Keep this up, and the phrase will be rendered absolutely meaningless within a few months.

Anything that is counter to the point I want to make at any given time.
 
Define "fake news".

What does that mean to you? Untruthful? Biased? Truthful, but incomplete / slanted? Inconvenient?

I seem to be seeing a lot of people labeling truthful news as "fake news" and it seems to be only because it's counter to what they want it to be. Keep this up, and the phrase will be rendered absolutely meaningless within a few months.


"Fake News" to me is a mundane story that isn't news that is prettied up to seem more sensational. It doesn't need to be a lie, necessarily, but it pushes people to draw a conclusion that isn't supported by the facts. I would consider the growing use of misleading headlines that push conclusions that aren't supported in the text of the story to be "fake news".

Fake Example: "Dispute over Land Rights results in potential spread of deadly disease" as a headline for a story about a neighbor who was bitten by the neighbors dog when he kicked it for pooping on his lawn.
 
Define "fake news".

What does that mean to you? Untruthful? Biased? Truthful, but incomplete / slanted? Inconvenient?

I seem to be seeing a lot of people labeling truthful news as "fake news" and it seems to be only because it's counter to what they want it to be. Keep this up, and the phrase will be rendered absolutely meaningless within a few months.

"Fake news" is a politically malleable term.
It's meaning changes based on who is using it, whether it be the MSM, Trump, etc.
 
An entity, typically of online origin, who relies on revenue derived from page views caused by the creation of sensationalized content masquerading as sourced journalism, but contains little to no such features. The content found within the entity's domain can often be partly or entirely fabricated.
 
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Is the classic false flag military tactic a form of fake news?
 
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