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Trump Calls The Media ‘The Enemy Of The American People’

tres borrachos said:
Well that's why I hadn't heard of him. My bad. :3oops:
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Yeah - at mid forties and overweight, I first assumed his drug use got to him. Turns out I was wrong. An odd & tragic turn of events, to what was an odd and tragic situation in itself.
 
The press was brutal on Thomas Jefferson, still...on recognizing the importance of a free press to keep government in check. He said: “a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter”:


"The people are the only censors of their governors: and even their errors will tend to keep these to the true principles of their institution. To punish these errors too severely would be to suppress the only safeguard of the public liberty.

The way to prevent these irregular interpositions of the people is to give them full information of their affairs thro’ the channel of the public papers, & to contrive that those papers should penetrate the whole mass of the people.

The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers & be capable of reading them."

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haymarket said:
So Trump is sworn to protect the nation against all enemies foreign and domestic.

I wonder just what steps towards fascism this authoritarian egomaniac will take to defend the American people against this declared enemy?
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Somewhere in Kansas there is a silo opening.....
 
Perotista said:
Media enemy of the people? Most Democrats think Fox News is the enemy of the people because they give their news a conservative slant. Most Republicans say MSNBC is the enemy of the people because they give their news from a liberal slant. Some would add CNN and PBS to go along with MSNBC.

But political bias certainly is part of the cable news without a doubt. But each has one objective, to attract viewers and thus enhance what they can charge for commercials. Cable news is strictly business. Just reporting the news, giving just the facts has long been dead. So yes, in a way the media is the enemy of the people as each networks tries to push their political views upon the American people by reporting the news that shows the side of the aisle they are on in a good light. Some more overt about it, some more covert. But one can't turn on the news and expect just to get the news straight anymore without a slant of some kind.
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I saw Trump's news conference yesterday. I didn't need anyone else to interpret how dishonestly, childishly and insanely Trump was acting. Some of us can watch and read the news, biased or not, and think for ourselves.
 
Paperview said:
The press was brutal on Thomas Jefferson, still...on recognizing the importance of a free press to keep government in check. He said: “a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter”:


"The people are the only censors of their governors: and even their errors will tend to keep these to the true principles of their institution. To punish these errors too severely would be to suppress the only safeguard of the public liberty.

The way to prevent these irregular interpositions of the people is to give them full information of their affairs thro’ the channel of the public papers, & to contrive that those papers should penetrate the whole mass of the people.

The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers & be capable of reading them."

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Fake news! I want to hear it directly from Tom himself.
 
lurchadams said:
I saw Trump's news conference yesterday. I didn't need anyone else to interpret how dishonestly, childishly and insanely Trump was acting. Some of us can watch and read the news, biased or not, and think for ourselves.
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Insanely is a good word for Trump.The man is obviously deeply disturbed and a threat to the American people.... if not the world.
 
Winston said:
Khan wasn't running for anything. He told a reporter that Trump's values were unamerican because of the Muslim ban.. and a lot of people agreed with him. And then Trump being an immature fool retaliated via Twitter. It was embarrassing for Trump. And it tells the world that Trump isn't confident enough in his policies to let them stand on their own.
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lurchadams said:
I saw Trump's news conference yesterday. I didn't need anyone else to interpret how dishonestly, childishly and insanely Trump was acting. Some of us can watch and read the news, biased or not, and think for ourselves.
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True, but those people were probably not Trump voters
 
Paperview said:
The press was brutal on Thomas Jefferson, still...on recognizing the importance of a free press to keep government in check. He said: “a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter”:


"The people are the only censors of their governors: and even their errors will tend to keep these to the true principles of their institution. To punish these errors too severely would be to suppress the only safeguard of the public liberty.

The way to prevent these irregular interpositions of the people is to give them full information of their affairs thro’ the channel of the public papers, & to contrive that those papers should penetrate the whole mass of the people.

The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers & be capable of reading them."

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At the time, there was also pro-Jefferson press. What gets lost in the screaming about biased media is that it always has been.
 
joG said:
The problem has been the spin and the selection of information in said media. I have no problem with reporting and analyzing information and facts that are damaging to Trump. I was even quite against Trump's candidacy and election. But that is neither here nor there. The onesided reporting and opinion undermines the credibility of the media that, as you quite correctly observed, are vital to our being informed. This is bad because it becomes hard to discern fake from true.
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What fake news do you see on MSM? There is opinion but it is marked as such. The MSM has much higher standards than Trump and lies or fake news are not tolerated which is as it should be.
 
Winston said:
The Wall's a pretty dumb thing to support.
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The wall is the key to fixing the illegal alien problem

First there can be no compromise that allows some illegals to stay legally

Without the wall they continue to be suspended in limbo

The wall puts real teeeth into the threat of deportation and puts an end to criminals who return 5 to 20 times after deportation
 
ARealConservative said:
I don't think you have the capacity to explain it to me.
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I'm sure I don't. I would need alien technology to penetrate that cro-magnon skull. Let me explain it to you simply. Real journalists = doctors. Right-wing journalists = witch doctors. Trump = a hobo with a syringe. Who do you go to for the cure?
 
rocket88 said:
At the time, there was also pro-Jefferson press. What gets lost in the screaming about biased media is that it always has been.
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Yes, the press, in general, was way more viciously partisan in the days of the founding fathers than it is now.
 
Mac77 said:
The wall is the key to fixing the illegal alien problem

First there can be no compromise that allows some illegals to stay legally

Without the wall they continue to be suspended in limbo

The wall puts real teeeth into the threat of deportation and puts an end to criminals who return 5 to 20 times after deportation
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The wall is stupid policy. Prove that it does what it says it does. Show some friggin' evidence for a change. Show that it's needed and reasonable response to a real problem using factual data and reason. That's the standard we should have. You guys just keep repeating BS and demanding its truth. Idiocy!
 
tres borrachos said:
The Huffpo article had Trump's Tweet in it. Pictures and all, making it easy for even you to read. But why should we believe them, you're right. It was probably a fake Tweet. Trump's irresponsible with everything so he probably lost his Samsung in the bathroom at Mar-A-Lago and a wedding guest picked it up.
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Trump won. You, and all the other non-winners here and at all the other whiny, crybaby faux-political web sites will never be able to change that. WaPo, NYT, LAT, HuffPo, etc., etc. are nothing more than a big wad of use toilet paper. Those of you who insist on reading and/or believing what they say deserve what you get. Your idiotic rants will consume you before you succeed at anything you try. Ya' know why? Because you are not winners. Your are irrelevant. You do not matter any more.
 
MaggieD said:
There is no question the media is biased. Frankly, I don't know how he copes. Reading most media outlets and listening to Democrats in Congress, one would think he is a criminal on the verge of impeachment. It is, I think, effecting our stature in the world and giving our enemies reason to believe we will not pull together. I know we will/would,but we look like we're on the verge of civil war.

The press used to respect the office of the presidency. No more. Follow the money. It's who we are now...If it bleeds, it leads.
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Sadly Maggie it seems the truth has a liberal lean now and it is Trump telling lies that is endangering our "stature" as the leader of the free world. The saying "The truth will set you free" seems especially important now.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
I'm sure I don't. I would need alien technology to penetrate that cro-magnon skull. Let me explain it to you simply. Real journalists = doctors. Right-wing journalists = witch doctors. Trump = a hobo with a syringe. Who do you go to for the cure?
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it's such a fine line between clever and stupid. :2wave:
 
Looking at the MSM's conduct over the past 17 years, they certainly have an agenda and it isn't exactly America friendly.
 
Chomsky said:
So, some Americans are his enemy?

This is our President?
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Yes

The liberal journalism version of muslims born in America who go to Syria to fight for isis
 
Quazimodo said:
Trump won. You, and all the other non-winners here and at all the other whiny, crybaby faux-political web sites will never be able to change that. WaPo, NYT, LAT, HuffPo, etc., etc. are nothing more than a big wad of use toilet paper. Those of you who insist on reading and/or believing what they say deserve what you get. Your idiotic rants will consume you before you succeed at anything you try. Ya' know why? Because you are not winners. Your are irrelevant. You do not matter any more.
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LOL Winning.....

 
GhostlyJoe said:
The wall is stupid policy. Prove that it does what it says it does. Show some friggin' evidence for a change. Show that it's needed and reasonable response to a real problem using factual data and reason. That's the standard we should have. You guys just keep repeating BS and demanding its truth. Idiocy!
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The Berlin Wall worked like a charm.
 
Quazimodo said:
Trump won. You, and all the other non-winners here and at all the other whiny, crybaby faux-political web sites will never be able to change that. WaPo, NYT, LAT, HuffPo, etc., etc. are nothing more than a big wad of use toilet paper. Those of you who insist on reading and/or believing what they say deserve what you get. Your idiotic rants will consume you before you succeed at anything you try. Ya' know why? Because you are not winners. Your are irrelevant. You do not matter any more.
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You sound hurt. I would be too if I got caught not opening the link that's being discussed and making a fool out of myself. Like you did.
 
apdst said:
The Berlin Wall worked like a charm.
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of course walls work. only the biggest morons on the planet would argue otherwise.

oh -I see you had the pleasure of meeting GhostlyJoe.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
The president just declared peaceful American citizens are enemies of the American people. F*%& this guy! And F&*% anyone who defends that statement. This guy is unfit and needs to step down right now.

Any Trump supporter who doesn't immediately disavow what this f&^*ing moron just said loses all credibility with me forever. Anyone defending this is MY enemy.
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I have considered liberal journalists the enemy for many years before trump came along
 
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