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White House Press Corp Changes

jimbo said:
I think that's backward. According to the press, there should be only 49 reporters of their choosing labelled equal. The rest don't count.

Fact is, anybody and everybody can be a reporter these days. And none are more credible than another.

Why not hold press conferences via Skype or Twitter? Everybody participates if they are so inclined.
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LOL You are denying the press the right to agree among themselves which outlets are important? Trump wants to turn an important part of his office into a circus where no one gets a chance to ask the tough questions he doesn't want to hear...not going to happen. Freedom of the press mean the press gets to decide who asks the questions not Trump....or Bannon.
 
iguanaman said:
Freedom of the press does not mean Trump picking who he will allow to ask the questions. Is Trump a "special needs" President who is so incompetent that he does not know that? It is plain as day that he is trying to minimize access by those that might ask hard questions
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That's not plain as day at all. Freedom of the press doesn't include unfettered access to the White House, free office space or anything else other than no gvmt censorship. How do you think Obama chooses who he's going to call on? Dollars to donuts they submit advance questions. Let's be sorta' real. Maybe he's going to put the press in the unicorn stables.
 
Fishking said:
Huh? He was trying to put them into a bigger venue where more reporters could get in and the MSMs threw a fit over it. Since they want to keep it in a smaller room it's only fair to put them on a rotating schedule.
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Turning a Presidential press conference into a 3 ring circus where he can minimize any questions he doesn't like is not increasing access. The press decides who will attend not Trump and it's because of that pesky 1st amendment he wants to repeal. The press will also decide WHO asks the questions again because of that little "thing" called the Constitution. It is going to be fun teaching you righties about it for the next 4 years.
 
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iguanaman said:
Turning a Presidential press conference into a circus where he can minimize any questions he doesn't like is not increasing access. The press decides who will attend not Trump and it's because of that pesky 1st amendment he wants to repeal.
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Boy, you've got it bad. And so WRONG, too.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
Who are they? Media are not some hive-mind working in collusion toward a common goal.
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They = White House Correspondents Association (WHCA). The current president of the WHCA is Jeff Mason, a Reuters correspondent.

A good portion of the media are actually hive minded, regardless of how much you stomp your feet that they aren't.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
So which lie justifies exclusion? Be "honest." Also, answer the question: Should Trump answer questions from media who publish unflattering reports?
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I'll let Trump be the judge of that. It's his decision, after all.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Does anyone have to complain to implement an improvement?
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You said the complaint came from giving right-wing news access. I'm asking you which right-wing outlets you're referring to.
 
AlbqOwl said:
They have all been left leaning since the late 1960's while still maintaining a degree of journalistic ethics and integrity. But for some time now there is no longer any effort whatsoever to be objective, fair, or honest in their reporting. I suspect most of the younger ones don't even know HOW to be objective, fair, or honest. They honestly can't see how they so grievously misrepresent the truth in their reporting.

So enter the 'underground' media identified as anything not considered mainstream media, that gives all the story and thereby allows us to sort out what is and is not true of what the MSM is reporting.

And if Trump invites them to join the White House Press Corps, that has to be a really scary thing for a White House reporter who used to be able to frame the story any way he or she wanted.
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I guess so. I don't even want to try to figure out how the press corp thinks. I know that a lot of them are complaining about the latest change, which was triggered by their former complaining about the former change, which wasn't much of a change. It was just a change from one location to another location about 50 feet away.
 
Mr Person said:
Obama was.

He still talked to the media despite a large (conservative) portion of it spending several years pandering to birthers and associate liars/retards.
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LOL!!

1. Who cares about Obama?

2. He sure wasn't all that open and available to Fox, was he? Heck, he regularly used Fox as his whipping boy.
 
Mycroft said:
I'll let Trump be the judge of that. It's his decision, after all.
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Haha ... obvious deflection. Maybe you should think before making baseless assertions.
 
iguanaman said:
Freedom of the press does not mean Trump picking who he will allow to ask the questions. Is Trump a "special needs" President who is so incompetent that he does not know that? It is plain as day that he is trying to minimize access by those that might ask hard questions
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Who do you think issues press credentials, some magical pink unicorn?
 
NonoBadDog said:
I guess so. I don't even want to try to figure out how the press corp thinks. I know that a lot of them are complaining about the latest change, which was triggered by their former complaining about the former change, which wasn't much of a change. It was just a change from one location to another location about 50 feet away.
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The media elite consider it their right of privilege to be media elite. And now that Trump is challenging that along with so many other sacred cows--that's what we voted for him to do, yes?--they are having a cow. I hope he doesn't give in, but he doesn't give in to much of anything easily so I remain hopeful.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I guess so. I don't even want to try to figure out how the press corp thinks. I know that a lot of them are complaining about the latest change, which was triggered by their former complaining about the former change, which wasn't much of a change. It was just a change from one location to another location about 50 feet away.
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Trying to get more Press into a situation where most of them are already denied any questions because of time constraints was a foolish trick that was easy to see through. If Trump promises to answer a question from EVERYONE in attendance he can invite as many as he wants.
 
iguanaman said:
This time he is threatening to pick and choose who in the press he will allow. That is after he threatened to throw them all out in the cold. Given his prior comments on the press Trump needs to be extremely careful lest he violate the 1st amendment. Surely you would not want that....or is the Constitution no longer valid?
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This post is as stupid as your first post in this thread. What is "the press" going to do to him? Say bad things? He wanted MORE press. The media elite didn't want that. They want to keep the press corp status quo.
 
NonoBadDog said:
They = White House Correspondents Association (WHCA). The current president of the WHCA is Jeff Mason, a Reuters correspondent.

A good portion of the media are actually hive minded, regardless of how much you stomp your feet that they aren't.
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No they really aren't. Do they take cues from each other and follow other reports? Certainly. But they're not a collaborative effort working toward a particular outcome, nor are they responsible for one another's reports, nor are they complicit in one another's mistakes or transgressions.

It's clear what the WHCA was concerned about, and that is preserving access to and accountability for the executive branch of the U.S. government. All Americans should share that concern, as transparency and accountability are vital to preserving our freedoms. So, I'll ask again: Should Trump face the press, even if they're reports about him are unflattering?
 
NonoBadDog said:
This post is as stupid as your first post in this thread. What is "the press" going to do to him? Say bad things? He wanted MORE press. The media elite didn't want that. They want to keep the press corp status quo.
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That's the spin. That's not the concerns outlined in the NY Times story in the OP. They're concerns were about loss of access, not the size of the room. The concern is the break with the tradition and the protocols moving forward.
 
iguanaman said:
LOL You are denying the press the right to agree among themselves which outlets are important? Trump wants to turn an important part of his office into a circus where no one gets a chance to ask the tough questions he doesn't want to hear...not going to happen. Freedom of the press mean the press gets to decide who asks the questions not Trump....or Bannon.
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Absolutely. Why should MSM decide who reports their version of the news?

It's a different era. No longer does a few newspapers control the news. In years past there were a half dozen major newspapers + AP and UPI.

The MSM can ask the tough questions. All they have to do is go to the Twitter account and type away. So can thousands of other so called reporters if they are so inclined.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
You said the complaint came from giving right-wing news access. I'm asking you which right-wing outlets you're referring to.
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Where did I say that? Quote where I said that.
 
Mycroft said:
LOL!!

1. Who cares about Obama?

2. He sure wasn't all that open and available to Fox, was he? Heck, he regularly used Fox as his whipping boy.
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So if that's wrong, isn't it also wrong for Trump to do it?
 
iguanaman said:
Trying to get more Press into a situation where most of them are already denied any questions because of time constraints was a foolish trick that was easy to see through. If Trump promises to answer a question from EVERYONE in attendance he can invite as many as he wants.
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That's lame as you have no idea how long Spicer intends on spending at the press conferences. The same amount of questions can only be asked in an amount of time no matter how few people ask the questions.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Where did I say that? Quote where I said that.
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you said said:
The inclusion of some right wing media outlets is one of the issues that reporters expressed in other news outlets. Most of the press corp is left leaning.
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Which right-wing media outlets?
 
AlbqOwl said:
The media elite consider it their right of privilege to be media elite. And now that Trump is challenging that along with so many other sacred cows--that's what we voted for him to do, yes?--they are having a cow. I hope he doesn't give in, but he doesn't give in to much of anything easily so I remain hopeful.
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So you think it is perfectly OK for a President to only answer questions for those who agree with him? That is what this trick was about. If he wants more people in he needs to promise to answer a question from everyone there not just those with softball questions. Why? Because of the 1st Amendment that is why.
 
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