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The Trump "No Answer" on Russian Associations during 01/11/2017 Press Conference

Absentglare said:
Donor defects in semiconductor substrate supply mobile electrons in the conduction band of the material.

Are we done citing irrelevant facts?
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I simply don't take seriously the self-serving nonsense of a German war criminal. Nor would Americans generally.
 
Objective Voice said:
I have to say I am stunned! :shock:

When asked and then further pressed at the end of his national press conference, President-elect Donald J. Trump refused to answer the direct question as to whether or not he or anyone directly connected to him or if anyone from his campaign had any association with Russian intelligence. Trump went on a long rant (once again) about how Russia, China, Japan, Mexico and all other nations would respect America once he became President, but on the question of Russian intelligence associations itself, he outright refused to answer the question even when further pressed after his press conference but before leaving the conference area.

No "no comment", no "I don't know, but I'll look into it"...nothing. He just walked off the stage and refused to answer.

To me, that rebuff/non-answer is more disturbing than the contents of any domestic intelligence report whether compiled by our federal intelligence agencies or some private investigative/consulting firm.
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Yeah, good comments. The press is going to go after him like blood hounds; and they're going to get 'em too.
 
Fearandloathing said:
That sums it up perfectly, deny, deny, deny; lie, lie, lie.....


He plays to the pent up resentments of media, along with the meme's and fake news. As it is in Machiavelli's "The Prince", as long as he can keep them angry over **** they have no control.....he has their minds and hearts.

It's not rocket science, convince enough people there is a threat to their way of life and they will let anyone do anything, especially in the excited states.

And they been fooling you since the 50's and the ****ing "domino theory"...a 'theory' that claimed the lives of 500 thousand Americans and made the US a laughing stock. Trump will find his 'domino theory' and use it to cancel elections maybe.
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And it's been the hard right-wing that's been leading that crusade ever since.
 
Absentglare said:
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
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That's the Left's grand strategy.
 
Jack Hays said:
I simply don't take seriously the self-serving nonsense of a German war criminal. Nor would Americans generally.
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Well then how about classic literature?

Where to you think Goerring learned his manipulations. Machiavelli's the Prince is the base model for what is happening to America....and had happened in Germany. Just because you and the rest of the Alt Right have made a fiction of the horrors of authoritarianism, doesn't mean "it can't happen here"

Because it is..
 
Jack Hays said:
I simply don't take seriously the self-serving nonsense of a German war criminal. Nor would Americans generally.
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They should.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
-Hermann Goering-
 
Fearandloathing said:
Well then how about classic literature?

Where to you think Goerring learned his manipulations. Machiavelli's the Prince is the base model for what is happening to America....and had happened in Germany. Just because you and the rest of the Alt Right have made a fiction of the horrors of authoritarianism, doesn't mean "it can't happen here"

Because it is..
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I'm no part of any right, alt or otherwise. There is a lot of silliness going around.
 
Grand Mal said:
They should.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
-Hermann Goering-
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Self-serving Goering blather in an attempt to save his neck. Not relevant to anything today.
 
Jack Hays said:
Self-serving Goering blather in an attempt to save his neck. Not relevant to anything today.
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That's not blather, that's how it works. You've seen it work when the US invaded Iraq in response to an attack by Saudi Arabians.
 
Cardinal said:
Evidence isn't the bottleneck here, it's whether or not anyone actually cares. We have all manners of acts committed by Trump that would be considered disqualifying for the office of the Presidency, but Republicans don't care, ergo they don't matter.

Well, of course they matter. I just mean that Republicans won't be credible partners in those discussions.
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Please, you mean corruption like when the attorney general met in private with the spouse of the lady under federal investigation? As my mother used to say "somebody must be drinking their bath water"!
 
EvaPeron said:
Please, you mean corruption like when the attorney general met in private with the spouse of the lady under federal investigation? As my mother used to say "somebody must be drinking their bath water"!
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I'm sorry that you're running the election through your head on an infinite loop. But it's 2017, Trump is the president elect, and there are any number of disqualifying acts he's committed, such as bribing a state attorney general to drop the case against him for Trump University in which he stole a quarter billion dollars from regular Americans, refused to show his tax returns, bragged about committing sexual assault, was a Birther, mocked a disabled person, called POW's "losers," and threatened the stability of our North Atlantic Treaty Organization alliance because a hostile foreign government manipulated him to the point that he insulted the entirety of our Intelligence community. Normally, any one of these alone would have been enough to tank a candidate.

Yes, yes, you don't care about any of that, which brings me back to my original point: Republicans don't care, ergo those things don't matter. Or rather they matter quite a lot, but Republicans won't be credible partners in those discussions.
 
Jack Hays said:
Germany did not go to war out of fear, but out of ambition.
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You're confusing the leaders motives with the method of manipulating the public to support the war.

Why did the US have so much public support for the invasion of Iraq? Because the public was told to fear its WMDs.

Why did the US have so much public support for the Vietnam or Korean wars? Because the public was told to be scared of communism.
 
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