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Why this conservative radio host quit after Trump's victory

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Looks like it is the end of the line for real conservative radio host.All that's left is the brainwashed cultist.SAD!

I don't see how this ends well. I don't see how it gets better.” — John Ziegler
Updated by Sean Illing@seanillingsean.illing@vox.com Jan 3, 2017, 10:00am EST

<John Ziegler hosts a Los Angeles-based nationally syndicated radio talk show. Or at least he did until a couple of weeks ago. On Sunday, December 19, he called it quits. And he did it because of Donald Trump.>

<A lifelong conservative, Ziegler opposed Trump from the beginning of the 2016 presidential campaign, and he paid a steep price for that opposition. Conservatives — or the kinds of conservatives who listen to talk radio — weren’t interested in contrarianism. They wanted affirmation, not information; loyalty, not principled disagreement.>

<On air, Ziegler called Trump a “con man” and a fake conservative. Like many others, he insisted Trump was grossly unqualified for the job. But his listeners revolted. Along with threatening emails, tweets, and Facebook messages, he was attacked as a “Hillary-lover” and a “Jewboy” (he is neither Jewish nor a Clinton supporter). “I lost some of my biggest supporters over Trump,” he told me.>

<None of this was surprising to Ziegler. He believes that the economics of talk radio, transformed in large part by the internet and cable news, put people like him at a disadvantage. Talk radio has essentially become a safe space for insulated conservatives. The business model makes it near-impossible to succeed without selling out or, as he puts it, without relying on “verbal prostitution to maintain levels of revenue.”>

<Every time I brought up the presidential race, my email box filled up with people saying I’ve betrayed them and that I’m a turncoat.” Sykes’s opposition to Trump was a deal breaker for many of his listeners. “It’s the worst cult of personality that I’ve seen since the 1930s,” Sykes told me.>

<On Thursday, I spoke with Ziegler about the decision to end his show and about the state of conservative media more generally. I asked him about the incentive structure of conservative media, why his audience doesn’t trust the press, and if he believes conservative media has ruined conservatism.>


Why this conservative radio host quit after Trump's victory - Vox
 
Never heard of him.

That's too bad for him, I guess.
 
Donc said:
Looks like it is the end of the line for real conservative radio host.All that's left is the brainwashed cultist.SAD!

I don't see how this ends well. I don't see how it gets better.” — John Ziegler
Updated by Sean Illing@seanillingsean.illing@vox.com Jan 3, 2017, 10:00am EST

<John Ziegler hosts a Los Angeles-based nationally syndicated radio talk show. Or at least he did until a couple of weeks ago. On Sunday, December 19, he called it quits. And he did it because of Donald Trump.>

<A lifelong conservative, Ziegler opposed Trump from the beginning of the 2016 presidential campaign, and he paid a steep price for that opposition. Conservatives — or the kinds of conservatives who listen to talk radio — weren’t interested in contrarianism. They wanted affirmation, not information; loyalty, not principled disagreement.>

<On air, Ziegler called Trump a “con man” and a fake conservative. Like many others, he insisted Trump was grossly unqualified for the job. But his listeners revolted. Along with threatening emails, tweets, and Facebook messages, he was attacked as a “Hillary-lover” and a “Jewboy” (he is neither Jewish nor a Clinton supporter). “I lost some of my biggest supporters over Trump,” he told me.>

<None of this was surprising to Ziegler. He believes that the economics of talk radio, transformed in large part by the internet and cable news, put people like him at a disadvantage. Talk radio has essentially become a safe space for insulated conservatives. The business model makes it near-impossible to succeed without selling out or, as he puts it, without relying on “verbal prostitution to maintain levels of revenue.”>

<Every time I brought up the presidential race, my email box filled up with people saying I’ve betrayed them and that I’m a turncoat.” Sykes’s opposition to Trump was a deal breaker for many of his listeners. “It’s the worst cult of personality that I’ve seen since the 1930s,” Sykes told me.>

<On Thursday, I spoke with Ziegler about the decision to end his show and about the state of conservative media more generally. I asked him about the incentive structure of conservative media, why his audience doesn’t trust the press, and if he believes conservative media has ruined conservatism.>


Why this conservative radio host quit after Trump's victory - Vox
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Post-Trump America Claims it's latest victim. I'm writing this on every one of these similar stories I see, and there are way too many of them for my liking... :(
 
Donc said:
Looks like it is the end of the line for real conservative radio host.All that's left is the brainwashed cultist.SAD!

I don't see how this ends well. I don't see how it gets better.” — John Ziegler
Updated by Sean Illing@seanillingsean.illing@vox.com Jan 3, 2017, 10:00am EST

<John Ziegler hosts a Los Angeles-based nationally syndicated radio talk show. Or at least he did until a couple of weeks ago. On Sunday, December 19, he called it quits. And he did it because of Donald Trump.>

<A lifelong conservative, Ziegler opposed Trump from the beginning of the 2016 presidential campaign, and he paid a steep price for that opposition. Conservatives — or the kinds of conservatives who listen to talk radio — weren’t interested in contrarianism. They wanted affirmation, not information; loyalty, not principled disagreement.>

<On air, Ziegler called Trump a “con man” and a fake conservative. Like many others, he insisted Trump was grossly unqualified for the job. But his listeners revolted. Along with threatening emails, tweets, and Facebook messages, he was attacked as a “Hillary-lover” and a “Jewboy” (he is neither Jewish nor a Clinton supporter). “I lost some of my biggest supporters over Trump,” he told me.>

<None of this was surprising to Ziegler. He believes that the economics of talk radio, transformed in large part by the internet and cable news, put people like him at a disadvantage. Talk radio has essentially become a safe space for insulated conservatives. The business model makes it near-impossible to succeed without selling out or, as he puts it, without relying on “verbal prostitution to maintain levels of revenue.”>

<Every time I brought up the presidential race, my email box filled up with people saying I’ve betrayed them and that I’m a turncoat.” Sykes’s opposition to Trump was a deal breaker for many of his listeners. “It’s the worst cult of personality that I’ve seen since the 1930s,” Sykes told me.>

<On Thursday, I spoke with Ziegler about the decision to end his show and about the state of conservative media more generally. I asked him about the incentive structure of conservative media, why his audience doesn’t trust the press, and if he believes conservative media has ruined conservatism.>


Why this conservative radio host quit after Trump's victory - Vox
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The "you're either with us or you're against us" bug has invaded both the Left and the Right. I'm not sure which side is more infected. I guess it depends on the issue. But the hate on dissenters is strong.
 
Donc said:
Looks like it is the end of the line for real conservative radio host.All that's left is the brainwashed cultist.SAD!

I don't see how this ends well. I don't see how it gets better.” — John Ziegler
Updated by Sean Illing@seanillingsean.illing@vox.com Jan 3, 2017, 10:00am EST

<John Ziegler hosts a Los Angeles-based nationally syndicated radio talk show. Or at least he did until a couple of weeks ago. On Sunday, December 19, he called it quits. And he did it because of Donald Trump.>

<A lifelong conservative, Ziegler opposed Trump from the beginning of the 2016 presidential campaign, and he paid a steep price for that opposition. Conservatives — or the kinds of conservatives who listen to talk radio — weren’t interested in contrarianism. They wanted affirmation, not information; loyalty, not principled disagreement.>

<On air, Ziegler called Trump a “con man” and a fake conservative. Like many others, he insisted Trump was grossly unqualified for the job. But his listeners revolted. Along with threatening emails, tweets, and Facebook messages, he was attacked as a “Hillary-lover” and a “Jewboy” (he is neither Jewish nor a Clinton supporter). “I lost some of my biggest supporters over Trump,” he told me.>

<None of this was surprising to Ziegler. He believes that the economics of talk radio, transformed in large part by the internet and cable news, put people like him at a disadvantage. Talk radio has essentially become a safe space for insulated conservatives. The business model makes it near-impossible to succeed without selling out or, as he puts it, without relying on “verbal prostitution to maintain levels of revenue.”>

<Every time I brought up the presidential race, my email box filled up with people saying I’ve betrayed them and that I’m a turncoat.” Sykes’s opposition to Trump was a deal breaker for many of his listeners. “It’s the worst cult of personality that I’ve seen since the 1930s,” Sykes told me.>

<On Thursday, I spoke with Ziegler about the decision to end his show and about the state of conservative media more generally. I asked him about the incentive structure of conservative media, why his audience doesn’t trust the press, and if he believes conservative media has ruined conservatism.>


Why this conservative radio host quit after Trump's victory - Vox
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Never heard of him. Buh bye. :2wave:
 
calamity said:
The "you're either with us or you're against us" bug has invaded both the Left and the Right. I'm not sure which side is more infected. I guess it depends on the issue. But the hate on dissenters is strong.
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Ask yourself who has the most radio shows.
 
Donc said:
Buh bye.:2wave:
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You started the thread about this supposedly "conservative" radio host who nobody ever heard of. :shrug: Nevertrumpers can go suck eggs afaic. :2wave:
 
Donc said:
Looks like it is the end of the line for real conservative radio host.All that's left is the brainwashed cultist.SAD!

I don't see how this ends well. I don't see how it gets better.” — John Ziegler
Updated by Sean Illing@seanillingsean.illing@vox.com Jan 3, 2017, 10:00am EST

<John Ziegler hosts a Los Angeles-based nationally syndicated radio talk show. Or at least he did until a couple of weeks ago. On Sunday, December 19, he called it quits. And he did it because of Donald Trump.>

<A lifelong conservative, Ziegler opposed Trump from the beginning of the 2016 presidential campaign, and he paid a steep price for that opposition. Conservatives — or the kinds of conservatives who listen to talk radio — weren’t interested in contrarianism. They wanted affirmation, not information; loyalty, not principled disagreement.>

<On air, Ziegler called Trump a “con man” and a fake conservative. Like many others, he insisted Trump was grossly unqualified for the job. But his listeners revolted. Along with threatening emails, tweets, and Facebook messages, he was attacked as a “Hillary-lover” and a “Jewboy” (he is neither Jewish nor a Clinton supporter). “I lost some of my biggest supporters over Trump,” he told me.>

<None of this was surprising to Ziegler. He believes that the economics of talk radio, transformed in large part by the internet and cable news, put people like him at a disadvantage. Talk radio has essentially become a safe space for insulated conservatives. The business model makes it near-impossible to succeed without selling out or, as he puts it, without relying on “verbal prostitution to maintain levels of revenue.”>

<Every time I brought up the presidential race, my email box filled up with people saying I’ve betrayed them and that I’m a turncoat.” Sykes’s opposition to Trump was a deal breaker for many of his listeners. “It’s the worst cult of personality that I’ve seen since the 1930s,” Sykes told me.>

<On Thursday, I spoke with Ziegler about the decision to end his show and about the state of conservative media more generally. I asked him about the incentive structure of conservative media, why his audience doesn’t trust the press, and if he believes conservative media has ruined conservatism.>


Why this conservative radio host quit after Trump's victory - Vox
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He was no longer speaking to or for the audience that made him famous. Not hard to understand.
 
Maybe he thought his plan would launch him into the top headlines on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. Guess it failed.

I'm sure the 10 people that read Vox per month will be interested though.
 
calamity said:
The "you're either with us or you're against us" bug has invaded both the Left and the Right. I'm not sure which side is more infected. I guess it depends on the issue. But the hate on dissenters is strong.
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Yeah, some of the hate Ben Shapiro received from the Stormfront crowd was disgusting. I believed Crowder also received quite a bit of hate for never really openly supporting Trump. This story is sadly all too common at the moment. Most of it appears to be the Alt-right people who aren't really so much conservatives but more anti-political correctness. The Right is fractured with so many different mini parties right now it is ridiculous.
 
QUOTE countryboy

You started the thread about this supposedly "conservative" radio host who nobody ever heard of. :shrug:
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I guess Los Angeles, KFI-AM doesn't have legs to reach Ohio eH?

Nevertrumpers can go suck eggs afaic. :2wave:.
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ADD HOMS is all you have eh?:2wave:
 
Donc said:
Ask yourself who has the most radio shows.
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True, but who has Hollywood, the comedy circuit, sitcoms, tear jerk dramas, and most of the print media? It's all relative. But, what sticks out is if you don't follow the narrative, you're not welcome in the club---either club.
 
MaggieD said:
He was no longer speaking to or for the audience that made him famous. Not hard to understand.
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Wait, famous? Um.....no. I listen to a LOT of conservative talk radio via Tune in Radio, and I have NEVER heard of this guy. I had to look him up, and evidently he is a co host of a, "nationally syndicated" radio talk show with a whopping.....24 affiliates. :roll: His co host, Leah Brandon left the show in November, and the show has only been on the air for two years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ziegler_(talk_show_host)#Nationally_syndicated_program
 
Nap said:
Yeah, some of the hate Ben Shapiro received from the Stormfront crowd was disgusting. I believed Crowder also received quite a bit of hate for never really openly supporting Trump. This story is sadly all too common at the moment. Most of it appears to be the Alt-right people who aren't really so much conservatives but more anti-political correctness. The Right is fractured with so many different mini parties right now it is ridiculous.
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The guy at Red State, Eric Erikson, has a similar story. Speak out about Trump, expect to get swarmed by trolls.
 
Donc said:
I guess Los Angeles, KFI-AM doesn't have legs to reach Ohio eH?
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Sure, but he evidently hasn't been on KFI since 2007. Guess you never heard of him either, eh? :lamo
 
calamity said:
True, but who has Hollywood, the comedy circuit, sitcoms, tear jerk dramas, and most of the print media? It's all relative. But, what sticks out is if you don't follow the narrative, you're not welcome in the club---either club.
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Nothing like a false narratives eh?
 
Donc said:
NAH! not my cup of tea.
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Truth is, nobody ever heard of him. ;) Do you know how infinitesimally small 24 affiliates is? Not really familiar with the talk radio platform, are you? Why do you think this is a big deal?
 
Oh Boo Hoo, most of these guys are not too bright and none to honest who have been pretty much forever selling a crap product.

Then they lost their followers, now one "quits" is a huff(in quotes because a wannbe leader with no followers is nothing).

They should have done better work I say.

JUSTICE
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Oh Boo Hoo, most of these guys are not too bright and none to honest who have been pretty much forever selling a crap product.

Then they lost their followers, now one "quits" is a huff(in quotes because a wannbe leader with no followers is nothing).

They should have done better work I say.

JUSTICE
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Actually the rift is spreading. Note responses to being uninvited to the DeploraBall

Alt-Right Infighting Simmers Around Inaugural 'DeploraBall' : NPR

Organizers of the event, which plays off Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's "basket of deplorables" swipe at some Trump supporters, have rescinded the invitation of a prominent social media personality with the alt-right movement, Tim Treadstone, better known by his Twitter handle @bakedalaska.


The Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi publication, weighed in on the feud and sided with Treadstone: "The Deploraball is apparently an attempt at a sanitized, cuckolded, pro-Jew version of the NPI conference." It also lashed out at the event's organizers for previously uninviting leading alt-right figures like Richard Spencer and Sam Hyde.
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When going un-PC goes wrong.
 
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