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Why this conservative radio host quit after Trump's victory

X Factor said:
I'm starting to think his show was about to be dropped so he decided to get in front of it and make it look like a principled stand.
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That's probably the case.

It's not like Glenn Beck shut down his show after Trump won.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I just read through the "100 moat influential" list.

Beyond Rush, Hannity, Glen Beck and a few others, I have never heard of any of these people. Being a person who is obviously tuned in to politics as evidenced by the fact that I post regularly on a political website, I would have to say that the level of "influence" these people have on society is infinitesimal.
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You forgot Levin and that one guy......... he is on Sundays.......... does stuff on facebook........ Joe Pags. Took me awhile.
 
X Factor said:
I'm starting to think his show was about to be dropped so he decided to get in front of it and make it look like some principled stand.
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His last attempt at fame was quitting I guess. That's sad.
 
TheGoverness said:
That's probably the case.

It's not like Glenn Beck shut down his show after Trump won.
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Beck lost a lot of listeners. Some of it was because of his anti Trump stance but there were a lot of other reasons to stop listening to him carry on with the emotional syrupy sweet crying story telling thing that he does. He drives me up a wall with that crap. I won't listen to him anymore. He reminds me of the starving puppy commercials at 3AM.
 
TheGoverness said:
That's probably the case.

It's not like Glenn Beck shut down his show after Trump won.
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Looking at his excuses, he's claiming it's because he's been anti Trump yet I can tell you that both Glenn Beck and Mark Levin were very critical of Trump during the campaign. Mark Levin, in fact, was very critical of FOX for being so pro Trump.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Beck lost a lot of listeners. Some of it was because of his anti Trump stance but there were a lot of other reasons to stop listening to him carry on with the emotional syrupy sweet crying story telling thing that he does. He drives me up a wall with that crap. I won't listen to him anymore. He reminds me of the starving puppy commercials at 3AM.
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Those actually break my heart a little every time I see them. On the other hand, while I don't dislike him, I've never been heartbroken for Glenn Beck.
 
X Factor said:
Those actually break my heart a little every time I see them. On the other hand, while I don't dislike him, I've never been heartbroken for Glenn Beck.
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I am Irish. My mother is Irish. My wife is Irish Catholic. The easiest way to piss me off is to use guilt to try to manipulate me. Maybe that is the injun side of me.
 
Donc said:
It’s a new world out there the brainwashing comes from social media/twitter now.:2wave:
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Yep, and don't forget the professional meme makers. There is a war between them and the true haters they inspired going on now too.
 
countryboy said:
You started the thread about this supposedly "conservative" radio host who nobody ever heard of. :shrug: Nevertrumpers can go suck eggs afaic. :2wave:
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He sounds like a quitter. I certainly understand a conservative opposition to Trump, but if you believe that then it is just as important to air your grievances during a Trump administration as it is during an Obama administration.

I like this bit:

A lifelong conservative, Ziegler opposed Trump from the beginning of the 2016 presidential campaign, and he paid a steep price for that opposition. Conservatives — or the kinds of conservatives who listen to talk radio — weren’t interested in contrarianism. They wanted affirmation, not information; loyalty, not principled disagreement.

... and then he quit... because people disagreed with him.
 
jmotivator said:
He sounds like a quitter. I certainly understand a conservative opposition to Trump, but if you believe that then it is just as important to air your grievances during a Trump administration as it is during an Obama administration.

I like this bit:

A lifelong conservative, Ziegler opposed Trump from the beginning of the 2016 presidential campaign, and he paid a steep price for that opposition. Conservatives — or the kinds of conservatives who listen to talk radio — weren’t interested in contrarianism. They wanted affirmation, not information; loyalty, not principled disagreement.

... and then he quit... because people disagreed with him.
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Nice how the article lumps "the kinds of conservatives who listen to talk radio", into one neat little pile. Like the person who posted this thread, the author of the article has no idea what they're talking about. I suspect the two year old Sunday show had no ratings. Also indicated by the fact that his co host left the show in November. ;)
 
countryboy said:
Nice how the article lumps "the kinds of conservatives who listen to talk radio", into one neat little pile. Like the person who posted this thread, the author of the article has no idea what they're talking about. I suspect the two year old Sunday show had no ratings. Also indicated by the fact that his co host left the show in November. ;)
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Yeah, it's a small time radio host who I only know about because he quit and the left decided they could use it as propaganda.
 
X Factor said:
Very few, FOX being the only one I can think of. More "babble" left wing propaganda (you don't even believe there is such a thing, do you?) including MSNBC, CNBC and CNN. Then you have a myriad of stars, sports figures, singers, comics and other entertainers making political statements pretty routinely. I'm just saying, try not to feel to upset or victimized by talk radio. Your POV is still represented plenty.

Thinking about it, I will say that there is one advantage to talk radio over those other things, it can be listened to while at work. That's what I do. I couldn't watch TV or read a magazine when I need to get work done, but I can sure have Rush on in the background.



Talk radio is just entertaining folks as well. Speaking of brainwashing, might I say your brain looks especially cleaned and polished from here. :lol:
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SOooo, let’s compare a movie from 2014 that had a cast of four democratic leaning stars/celebrities. Cast= George Clooney, Matt Damon,John Goodman, Cate Blanchett,An Aussey with liberal views,AND Bill Murray.

Monuments men= Domestic Box Office= $78,031,620=average ticket price= $8.61=Domestic Box Office attendance in 2014=9,062,905.Then we will compare Rush Limbaugh, = weekly listening= 13.25,mill, Bill O’Reilly= 2.8 million viewers, Sean Hannity=weekly listening= 12.5, =Glen Beck=7+ million.

Yearly for four lib celebrities appearing in a movie in one year=9,062,905

Weekly for four conservative talkers talking five days a week=35,550,000

It’s VERY APPARENT that you have RUSH on in the background...maybe you should turn RUSH off for a few days a week until you get the ole brain cleansed. :thumbs:
 
It sounds like he didn't quit out of principle but because he lost his audience and was going to get fired anyway
 
calamity said:
Yep, and don't forget the professional meme makers. There is a war between them and the true haters they inspired going on now too.
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Whatsa meme maker?
 
Donc said:
Looks like it is the end of the line for real conservative radio host.All that's left is the brainwashed cultist.SAD!

I don't see how this ends well. I don't see how it gets better.” — John Ziegler
Updated by Sean Illing@seanillingsean.illing@vox.com Jan 3, 2017, 10:00am EST

<John Ziegler hosts a Los Angeles-based nationally syndicated radio talk show. Or at least he did until a couple of weeks ago. On Sunday, December 19, he called it quits. And he did it because of Donald Trump.>

<A lifelong conservative, Ziegler opposed Trump from the beginning of the 2016 presidential campaign, and he paid a steep price for that opposition. Conservatives — or the kinds of conservatives who listen to talk radio — weren’t interested in contrarianism. They wanted affirmation, not information; loyalty, not principled disagreement.>

<On air, Ziegler called Trump a “con man” and a fake conservative. Like many others, he insisted Trump was grossly unqualified for the job. But his listeners revolted. Along with threatening emails, tweets, and Facebook messages, he was attacked as a “Hillary-lover” and a “Jewboy” (he is neither Jewish nor a Clinton supporter). “I lost some of my biggest supporters over Trump,” he told me.>

<None of this was surprising to Ziegler. He believes that the economics of talk radio, transformed in large part by the internet and cable news, put people like him at a disadvantage. Talk radio has essentially become a safe space for insulated conservatives. The business model makes it near-impossible to succeed without selling out or, as he puts it, without relying on “verbal prostitution to maintain levels of revenue.”>

<Every time I brought up the presidential race, my email box filled up with people saying I’ve betrayed them and that I’m a turncoat.” Sykes’s opposition to Trump was a deal breaker for many of his listeners. “It’s the worst cult of personality that I’ve seen since the 1930s,” Sykes told me.>

<On Thursday, I spoke with Ziegler about the decision to end his show and about the state of conservative media more generally. I asked him about the incentive structure of conservative media, why his audience doesn’t trust the press, and if he believes conservative media has ruined conservatism.>


Why this conservative radio host quit after Trump's victory - Vox
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This thread is the first time I have ever heard of this guy and I am sure its also the first time anyone has heard of this guy. I think this guy quitting has to do with the fact most people have no idea who the **** he is,not because he had a different opinion on Trump than other talk show hosts. Other conservative talk shows were not on the Trump-tard bandwagon and are still doing fine like Glenn Beck for example.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I just read through the "100 moat influential" list.

Beyond Rush, Hannity, Glen Beck and a few others, I have never heard of any of these people. Being a person who is obviously tuned in to politics as evidenced by the fact that I post regularly on a political website, I would have to say that the level of "influence" these people have on society is infinitesimal.
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"I post regularly on a political website"
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BE VERY careful!trump may try to give you a cabinet position.:(
 
jamesrage said:
This thread is the first time I have ever heard of this guy and I am sure its also the first time anyone has heard of this guy. I think this guy quitting has to do with the fact most people have no idea who the **** he is,not because he had a different opinion on Trump than other talk show hosts. Other conservative talk shows were not on the Trump-tard bandwagon and are still doing fine like Glenn Beck for example.
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He used to be big in SoCal area,more than likely making more dough writing his column for mediaite.com.
 
apdst said:
Ask yourself, "why?".
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I'm not exactly a leftist so maybe this isn't even a valid anecdote, but I've tried listening to "talk" radio. Near as I can tell, here's what one hour consists of :
News
Commercials
10 minutes of the host, some wasted on self-promotion.
Commercials - some read by the host
10 minutes of the host, some wasted on self-promotion.
Commercials
News
Commercials
10 minutes of the host, some wasted on self-promotion.
Commercials - some read by the host
10 minutes of the host, some wasted on self-promotion.
Commercials

It's a complete waste of time. I sometimes turn in if something that I know will tick off the host is happening. Example : Mark Levin when a) his pal Hannity turned into a Trumpette and b) when it became obvious that his boy Cruz was chasing Trump's vapors.
 
If this guy quit over Trump he is a moron.
Look...Donald Trump is one man. He happens to be the president elect. That means he will fill the same role Obama did as the head of the executive branch. He won't be king. We won't be dictator. He can't launch nuclear rockets. He can't usurp the Constitution. He has given no indication he will try to change law settled by the Supreme Court. He is the president elect.
Anyone that is twisted over this election...dood...breathe. Life goes on. The inauguration isn't a coronation...it is a celebration of a time honored electoral model. It represents so much more than an individual.
This while I'm leaving, I quit, I don't want to play, not my president BS...it's a bunch of children stomping their feet and throwing tantrums because they didn't get what they wanted.


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It just seems like the norm. Some will demur that their preferred party's new figurehead isn't liberal/conservative enough, and at the moment of unthinking elation, the figurehead's supporters will brandish them traitors. I've certainly seen a fair number who when they were convinced Hillary would take office were lamenting this very thing - that Trump was a liberal in disguise and "oh if only we had Santorum" instead - but now that she won't be they're acting like he was their savior all along and anyone who questions him should be standing before the Unamerican Activities Committee

Look, a certain number of pundits who have spent the last 8 years fuming at everything Obama says or does will be lost as to how to proceed now. Agreement just doesn't draw in the audience. This was probably just an attempt to keep the audience that he was afraid he would've lost when they became bored, and it didn't work
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I just read through the "100 moat influential" list.

Beyond Rush, Hannity, Glen Beck and a few others, I have never heard of any of these people. Being a person who is obviously tuned in to politics as evidenced by the fact that I post regularly on a political website, I would have to say that the level of "influence" these people have on society is infinitesimal.
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I remember when Rush promised to leave the US if the ACA became law, then it did and he didn't leave, and still no one gave a **** about him

These people think they should influence over those who are elected. No, only bankers get to do that
 
chromium said:
I remember when Rush promised to leave the US if the ACA became law, then it did and he didn't leave, and still no one gave a **** about him

These people think they should influence over those who are elected. No, only bankers get to do that
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I remember after Obama was elected, a couple of GOP congress critters dared to say that they would consider working with him for the betterment of the country. There were at least 3 that I can remember that were either forced to call Rush to walk it back or actually appeared on his show to kiss his boots. This was when the DOW was ~7K.

Rush said, "I want him (Obama) to fail." Those congressmen differed. Rush won.

You can go up from Rush and find out that he's also owned by those that pay/donate to his syndicator. I've heard him spend weeks reading Heritage/Koch talking points where the timing lined up with Heritage money coming in.

Bottom line : there is precious little "independent media" left. The 4th estate was already basically neutered, and now it seems that a lot of people consider everything they don't agree with "fake news".

I know nothing about the personality that this thread was started about. Maybe he got disgusted, or maybe he miscalculated his anti-Trump vector. I'd guess the former, since most of the "pundits" on the right were anti-Trump at least until late last summer. Savage and Ingrahm were exceptions I know of.
 
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