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New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly

New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly | Fox News

Years nay decades too late. Like most of the main stream news media, the NYT long ago abandoned any pretense towards journalistic standards or integrity. I imagine I am like most people, I found better more reliable professional and varied sources and won't be going back to the old school ways ever again. May the NYT and their ilk reap all that they have sewn.
 
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Sardonicus said:
New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly

New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly | Fox News

Years nay decades too late. Like most of the main stream news media, the NYT long ago abandoned any pretense towards journalistic standards or integrity. I imagine I am like most people, I found better more reliable professional and varied sources and won't be going back to the old school ways ever again. May the NYT and their ilk reap all that they have sewn.
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The demise of media prestige has definitely been one of my favorite outcomes of this election. Too little, too late.
 
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Sardonicus said:
New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly

New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly | Fox News

Years nay decades too late. Like most of the main stream news media, the NYT long ago abandoned any pretense towards journalistic standards or integrity. I imagine I am like most people, I found better more reliable professional and varied sources and won't be going back to the old school ways ever again. May the NYT and their ilk reap all that they have sewn.
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They bet on the wrong horse and now they want a refund. Sucks to be them. They can slowly sink and become as irrelevant as Media Matters.
 
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Breitbart is conservative media. Breitbart was fully and openly in the tank for Trump. Trump just named the head of Breitbart to be his "chief strategist and senior counselor."




The anyone on the right meant a single thing they ever whined about regarding "crony capitalism" or media bias, then THAT is what they should be melting down over. They shouldn't be starting threads to complain about the NYT being biased.

The hypocrisy just......



UGH.
 
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Sardonicus said:
New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly

New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly | Fox News

Years nay decades too late. Like most of the main stream news media, the NYT long ago abandoned any pretense towards journalistic standards or integrity. I imagine I am like most people, I found better more reliable professional and varied sources and won't be going back to the old school ways ever again. May the NYT and their ilk reap all that they have sewn.
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Well just looking at todays headline, Im not seeing it.

Trump’s First Hire Is Washington Insider

W
ASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump on Sunday chose Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee and a loyal campaign adviser, to be his White House chief of staff, turning to a Washington insider whose friendship with the House speaker, Paul D. Ryan, could help secure early legislative victories.

In selecting Mr. Priebus, Mr. Trump passed over Stephen K. Bannon, a right-wing media provocateur. But the president-elect named Mr. Bannon his senior counselor and chief West Wing strategist, signaling an embrace of the fringe ideology long advanced by Mr. Bannon and of a continuing disdain for the Republican establishment.

The dual appointments — with Mr. Bannon given top billing in the official announcement — instantly created rival centers of power in the Trump White House.
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"Could help secure"
"right wing media provacateur"
"fringe ideology"
"instantly created rival centers of power"

Quite a lot of implication in just a few paragraphs. Wheres the facts?
 
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Sardonicus said:
New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly

New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly | Fox News

Years nay decades too late. Like most of the main stream news media, the NYT long ago abandoned any pretense towards journalistic standards or integrity. I imagine I am like most people, I found better more reliable professional and varied sources and won't be going back to the old school ways ever again. May the NYT and their ilk reap all that they have sewn.
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I'll believe it when I see it. Until then they're going to have to prove themselves. Constantly.
 
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And they place their opinion section at the very top right of their front page.

The Incendiary Appeal of Demagoguery in Our Time
 
Re: New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly

Kal'Stang said:
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then they're going to have to prove themselves. Constantly.
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I was a daily subscriber to the NYT for decades, even for a while after I had become aware of their incompetence and corruption. But I cancelled my subscription about ten years ago and for me, I'll never go back. I do still get a subscription to my local paper, though I admit that most of the news in it is "old" to me by the time I receive it. I simply no longer trust nor rely upon print news anymore, at least as regards newspapers. The thing of it is, it is mainly because of corruption and the lack of journalistic ethics in print news media that I turned away from it. Rather than because of the convenience of gathering news from various sources on the internet. Had NYT maintained it's former reputation and ethical standards I'd probably still be paying for a subscription to it. But as you said and I agree with, it would take a serious effort and then years and years of demonstration from NYT to even make a dent in the damage they have done to their own brand. Let them reap a bountiful harvest from what they have sown, let the tears of their stock holders and editorial board decorate their bounty.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then they're going to have to prove themselves. Constantly.
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They won't be in business long enough...
 
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Mr Person said:
Breitbart is conservative media. Breitbart was fully and openly in the tank for Trump. Trump just named the head of Breitbart to be his "chief strategist and senior counselor."UGH.
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If you would like to start a thread about Britebart then by all means do so. Britebart is not the subject of this discussion and if you can't post on the topic then have the class to simply not post at all. I won't indulge your desire to change (derail) the topic and will let the moderation staff deal with you if you can't bring yourself to participate honestly.

Mr Person said:
The anyone on the right meant a single thing they ever whined about regarding "crony capitalism" or media bias, then THAT is what they should be melting down over. They shouldn't be starting threads to complain about the NYT being biased.

The hypocrisy just......UGH.
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And speaking of class, if you can't address the topic and have nothing intelligent to say in the meantime? It is a pretty good idea to just not post. Particularly if you are going to just make idiotic personal assumptions about me or anyone else that is participating honestly. As I am sure you know, that is against the rules at DP. Speaking of those, IMO based upon just this one post of yours and directed towards me I'd say DP rule number four could have some real relevancy for you:

4. Don't Be A Jerk (DBAJ) - This simply means what it sounds like. ;)
 
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Sardonicus said:
New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly

New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly | Fox News

Years nay decades too late. Like most of the main stream news media, the NYT long ago abandoned any pretense towards journalistic standards or integrity. I imagine I am like most people, I found better more reliable professional and varied sources and won't be going back to the old school ways ever again. May the NYT and their ilk reap all that they have sewn.
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"Now that we don't have to kiss the ass of the government because it is not controlled by the party whose ass we have been kissing for the past 8 years...we are going to rebrand ourselves as trustworthy and honest so that you will believe us while we demonize the party whose ass we will not kiss."


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Sardonicus said:
Like most of the main stream news media, the NYT long ago abandoned any pretense towards journalistic standards or integrity.
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So when they ran an editorial openly declaring (this was post-NSA-revelations around 2013) that "Obama has now lost all credibility", that was their lack of standards and integrity speaking?


Just wondering.
 
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NY Times has been a rag since before I was born and its descent continues.
 
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Sardonicus said:
If you would like to start a thread about Britebart then by all means do so. Britebart is not the subject of this discussion and if you can't post on the topic then have the class to simply not post at all.
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Here at DP, people can start threads but don't get to tell people that they aren't allowed to expand the discussion. If you solely complain about left-leaning media, then I (or someone else) will certainly address your failure to complain about right-leaning media. If you complain about the influence of one but not the other, same result.

It's called valuing intellectual honesty.


If you do not have the "class" to address a problem as it manifests on both sides of the aisle, especially when the problem is bias AND one side - the one you seem to take - just happened to reward one of its own with a cushy government position, then your OP's complaint doesn't deserve discussion in its own right. To make it an honest complaint, it must be weighed against the problem as it manifests elsewhere. And honesty is usually considered part of this "class" you accuse me of lacking.











Sardonicus said:
4. Don't Be A Jerk (DBAJ) - This simply means what it sounds like. ;)
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Report the post if you think it violates the rules.
 
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Moderator's Warning:
All discussions about the rules of the forum need to stop now. If you see a violaiton, report it, don't talk about it and "play mod".

Return to the topic of the thread and please stick with it.
 
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Newspapers have been in a fight for survival since the advent of the world wide web. In recent years they have engaged in sensationalism in the hope of boosting readership and revenue. Apparently it hasn't helped. People continue to get more news from television and the internet than from newspapers and magazines. Instead the sensationalism has reduced the credibility of those engaging in it. I think the NYT is simply coming to that realization and saying so.
 
There was a time in my life when I did respect NYT and frequently read it, online and in paper, but those days have been gone for a long time.

They really lost me completely with the Judith Miller buy in to the Cheney/Bush deception. If I could see the deception, why couldn't they? Are they really that obtuse, or just wholly owned? Either way, they are hopeless.
 
Thoreau72 said:
There was a time in my life when I did respect NYT and frequently read it, online and in paper, but those days have been gone for a long time.

They really lost me completely with the Judith Miller buy in to the Cheney/Bush deception. If I could see the deception, why couldn't they? Are they really that obtuse, or just wholly owned? Either way, they are hopeless.
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I well recall Ms. Miller's sourcing of Ahmed Chalabi. It ended her career as a respected "journalist" and was just another sign that her employer was no more reliable or trustworthy IMO. ;)
 
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Mr Person said:
Breitbart is conservative media. Breitbart was fully and openly in the tank for Trump. Trump just named the head of Breitbart to be his "chief strategist and senior counselor."




The anyone on the right meant a single thing they ever whined about regarding "crony capitalism" or media bias, then THAT is what they should be melting down over. They shouldn't be starting threads to complain about the NYT being biased.

The hypocrisy just......



UGH.
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I hear you, I do. But Breitbart has no credibility. They're like the young Turks, but for conservatives, instead of liberals. People EXPECT biased reporting from Breitbart, as they do from the young Turks.

People expect unbiased reporting from legitimate news sources like NYT, msnbc, CNN, or Fox News, and they all FAIL.
 
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