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19 Unarmed White Victims of Police Shootings in 2016

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/?tid=a_inl

For example
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/25/u...vestigated-for-shooting-of-deaf-man.html?_r=0

The motorist, Daniel K. Harris, 29, was shot and killed by the trooper, Jermaine Saunders, just after 6 p.m. last Thursday after Mr. Harris failed to pull over during a traffic stop near Charlotte, Sgt. Michael Baker, a spokesman for the state’s highway patrol, said in a statement.

“After a brief pursuit,” Sergeant Baker said, “the driver exited his vehicle, and an encounter took place between the driver and the trooper, causing a shot to be fired. The driver succumbed to his injuries at the scene.”

Where is the media frenzy? Where is BLM? Where are the riots?

FYI, there have been 15 black victims.
 
The PC crowd will tell you that it's unusually disproportionate. Despite the incarceration rate.
 
No, where's the white community and the white leaders? Don't any of you care enough that the police are brutally killing unarmed citizens?

That is the real problem we have. There are a lot of homicides in the country and a lot of violent crime. Interestingly the numbers seem to be falling steadily since peaking in 1980 or so.
 
No, where's the white community and the white leaders? Don't any of you care enough that the police are brutally killing unarmed citizens?

You know full well that the white community doesn't have its own "community leaders", who are explicitly representative of white interests.

Many, many whites in this country have railed against police brutality in genuine instances, they just don't racialize the issue unnecessarily. And unlike the black community acts when a black criminal is killed in sensationalized cases, the white community doesn't riot when a white criminal is killed by cops.
 
You know full well that the white community doesn't have its own "community leaders", who are explicitly representative of white interests.

Many, many whites in this country have railed against police brutality in genuine instances, they just don't racialize the issue unnecessarily. And unlike the black community acts when a black criminal is killed in sensationalized cases, the white community doesn't riot when a white criminal is killed by cops.

So how many more unarmed white people need to die before you actually start doing something? Even though many, many white people rally, they are still getting brutalized. Don't you care the government is killing unarmed citizens and it's rising more and more?
 
So how many more unarmed white people need to die before you actually start doing something? Even though many, many white people rally, they are still getting brutalized. Don't you care the government is killing unarmed citizens and it's rising more and more?

I'm not concerned when criminals are killed by police, whether they're white, black or any other race is irrelevant.

The entire media campaign and the premises behind this activism, which is really just anti-police propaganda, are not just misleading but false. Only a fraction of those killed by police are unarmed, and of those who are killed by police while being unarmed, a high percentage attacked the police in some way.

There are only a few genuine instances of people being killed for no sufficient reason, and in these cases I back our court system to deal with the responsible officers in a fair way, in an environment where the rule of law reigns supreme and innocence is presumed, rather than engage in a frenzied case of mob rule and witch hunt which is what the media is encouraging.
 
No, where's the white community and the white leaders? Don't any of you care enough that the police are brutally killing unarmed citizens?

We've all been trained that if we stick up for our race we are racist.
 
We've all been trained that if we stick up for our race we are racist.

No, you only get that impression because every "white advocacy" group inevitably talks about how all the other races are screwing up the country.
 
No, you only get that impression because every "white advocacy" group inevitably talks about how all the other races are screwing up the country.

Well sure, in the same way the "black advocacy" groups inevitably talk about how whites are screwing up the country.

The fact that "whites advocacy" invites white racists is also true for all groups who advocate on the basis of skill color, they draw racists from those groups the same way.
 
I get the distinct impression North Dakota is the place to be to avoid this outcome. I saw only one dot on the map for North Dakota. I wonder who that poor fool was. "We here in North Dakota law enforcement don't generally shoot unarmed citizens. There was one exception because that particular sumbitch deserved it. We all know what that exception was for, but if for some reason you don't, well, we aren't adverse to making another exception."
 
I don't know why white people are more likely to ignore such abuse of power. Maybe we just haven't been pushed to the breaking point yet.
 
No, where's the white community and the white leaders? Don't any of you care enough that the police are brutally killing unarmed citizens?

They arent, so no. Problems are investigated and dealt with in a peaceful, judicial way, without consideration of race.
 
I don't know why white people are more likely to ignore such abuse of power. Maybe we just haven't been pushed to the breaking point yet.

They dont ignore it. They prosecute it in a legal manner, which is not media frenzy worthy, apparently.

The North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation is conducting a criminal inquiry into the fatal shooting of a deaf motorist by a state trooper last week.
 
They dont ignore it. They prosecute it in a legal manner, which is not media frenzy worthy, apparently.

I'm not in law enforcement, so can't address the problem. But it seems that the police are not very good shots why mot shoot to injure instead of kill two shots to the knees and you aren't going anywhere.
If I were in law depending on what the perp did such as dismember a child we probly would not live for trial.
 
They dont ignore it. They prosecute it in a legal manner, which is not media frenzy worthy, apparently.

One instance? How about the many more that don't get an inquiry?


But hey if you don't care the government shoots unarmed people without consequences the majority of the time, that's your opinion and nothing I say wil change it.
 
I'm not going to go through every single incident and it appears I dont have to. Starting from the top...
Jesse Beshaw-Arrested for burglary, wouldnt show his hands, then attacked the officer
Danial Harris-Pulled over for traffic violation (prior arrests for traffic violation, theft, and resisting arrest) and ignored officers commands, got out of his car, and started towards the officer.
Marcos Antonio Gastelum-Investigated for taking pictures of children and trying to get them into his car. When the deputy stopped Gastelum's vehicle, he got out and attacked the deputy
Dylan Noble-Police were searching for a man walking in the street with a rifle when they noticed a truck speeding nearby and attempted to pull it over. Noble got out of the truck and reached behind his back.

Cuz he was a dumbass.

I dont get spun up over the race of the individual shot by the cops...white, black, brown, or green. Most white folk I know would look at most instances as cited and say you know what? **** em. Sorry...I feel bad for their families. I feel bad for the cop that was put in that situation. For the individual? Not so much.

BTW...for the record...19 dead white 'victims' vs 15 dead black 'victims'. Overall including armed perpetrators...321 white 'victims' vs 172 black 'victims'.
 
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I'm not going to go through every single incident and it appears I dont have to. Starting from the top...
Jesse Beshaw-Arrested for burglary, wouldnt show his hands, then attacked the officer
Danial Harris-Pulled over for traffic violation (prior arrests for traffic violation, theft, and resisting arrest) and ignored officers commands, got out of his car, and started towards the officer.
Marcos Antonio Gastelum-Investigated for taking pictures of children and trying to get them into his car. When the deputy stopped Gastelum's vehicle, he got out and attacked the deputy
Dylan Noble-Police were searching for a man walking in the street with a rifle when they noticed a truck speeding nearby and attempted to pull it over. Noble got out of the truck and reached behind his back.

Cuz he was a dumbass.

I dont get spun up over the race of the individual shot by the cops...white, black, brown, or green. Most white folk I know would look at most instances as coited and say you know what? **** em. Sorry...I feel bad for their families. I feel bad for the cop that was put in that situation. For the individual? Not so much.

BTW...for the record...19 dead white 'victims' vs 15 dead black 'victims'. Overall including armed perpetrators...321 white 'victims' vs 172 black 'victims'.
You should realize that facts and the truth have no place in this discussion!
How dare you muddy the water with such frivolous information! :mrgreen:
 
You should realize that facts and the truth have no place in this discussion!
How dare you muddy the water with such frivolous information! :mrgreen:
People tend to lose reason and rational thought when all they can focus on is skin color.
 
I'm not concerned when criminals are killed by police, whether they're white, black or any other race is irrelevant.

Citizens are innocent until proven guilty by a jury of their peers. Not sure if you're aware but that's actually one of the cornerstones of society.

Nobody is a criminal until they have been tried as such. The job of the police is to apprehend these people. Not kill them.
 
Citizens are innocent until proven guilty by a jury of their peers. Not sure if you're aware but that's actually one of the cornerstones of society. Nobody is a criminal until they have been tried as such. The job of the police is to apprehend these people. Not kill them.

If the police are under siege they have every right to defend themselves, just as you or I do. The only time police open fire is when they feel they are at risk, or that the public is in danger. For example, police have not just every right to, but the absolute responsibility to kill a mass murderer if they arrive at a scene when he is in the act.

According to your logic, if someone is threatening me in my home, and points a gun to my head, I cannot retaliate because the burglar hasn't been tried in a court of law. That's a laughable misunderstanding of the issues at play.

Oh and:

Not sure if you're aware but that's actually one of the cornerstones of society

Your baseless ad hominem is noted.
 
I'm not going to go through every single incident and it appears I dont have to. Starting from the top...
Jesse Beshaw-Arrested for burglary, wouldnt show his hands, then attacked the officer
Danial Harris-Pulled over for traffic violation (prior arrests for traffic violation, theft, and resisting arrest) and ignored officers commands, got out of his car, and started towards the officer.
Marcos Antonio Gastelum-Investigated for taking pictures of children and trying to get them into his car. When the deputy stopped Gastelum's vehicle, he got out and attacked the deputy
Dylan Noble-Police were searching for a man walking in the street with a rifle when they noticed a truck speeding nearby and attempted to pull it over. Noble got out of the truck and reached behind his back.

Cuz he was a dumbass.

I dont get spun up over the race of the individual shot by the cops...white, black, brown, or green. Most white folk I know would look at most instances as cited and say you know what? **** em. Sorry...I feel bad for their families. I feel bad for the cop that was put in that situation. For the individual? Not so much.

BTW...for the record...19 dead white 'victims' vs 15 dead black 'victims'. Overall including armed perpetrators...321 white 'victims' vs 172 black 'victims'.

If you engage a police officer in a manner that forces him to draw his weapon, you need to understand that lethal force is a possible outcome if you persist. It's simple. If the police have reason to stop you, obey their orders and keep your hands in plain view. How hard is that?
 
If you engage a police officer in a manner that forces him to draw his weapon, you need to understand that lethal force is a possible outcome if you persist. It's simple. If the police have reason to stop you, obey their orders and keep your hands in plain view. How hard is that?
I think its important to recognize that there ARE legit instances where cops over react, mis-react, and sometimes react in an outright criminal manner. However...not every instance of an unarmed citizen being shot is unjustified.

One might also point out that while everyone is ****ting themselves over police shootings, of the 702 shootings, only 42 did not involve perpetrators using weapons. That means that in 99.05% of the shooting instances officers were under threat of death in the normal day to day operations of their job. Furthermore...of the approximately 6,000,000 incidents of police contact with civilians that occur in any given year, .0000007 % of those incidents involve unarmed perpetrators being shot. 36 of the 41 incidents involved a physical altercation between the arresting officer and the suspected perpetrator.
 
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