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Fox News Reports

Jaygodmedia said:
I for one understand the network and can read between the lies but sometimes im like damn fox just tell the truth...
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I don't suppose you ever thought to examine if Media Bias fact Check or PolitiFact or BI are themselves bias.
You would have to approach it as something other than an exercise in opinion reinforcement so I'm guessing you never bothered.
You know what I found kinda humorous was that BI study which you noted but didn't look at. It said NPR was most reliable. Ya know that 2nd question at Biden's 1st Press conference was from an NPR "journalist". Was her question biased?
 
antiquity said:
Will the Cuban government make any changes to their government toward a democracy?
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Because that's what has us cozied up to the House of Saud and so many other dictatorships around the globe. :rolleyes:

The issue with Cuba is that our stupidity to irrationally keep it at arms length provides our enemies with a back porch.
 
bubbabgone said:
I don't suppose you ever thought to examine if Media Bias fact Check or PolitiFact or BI are themselves bias.
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It's this attitude that allows FOX News and other right-wing sources to play their games and manipulate.

The studies (and I can produce them) are very clear about FOX News bias and for producing right-wing propaganda that deceives its viewers. Yet, people who prefer that right-wing manipulation immediately default to assuming all who declare it bias...are themselves bias. This is why "fake news" was so delicious a tool for conservatives when dismissing every single one of Trump's routine scandals. All the world's media could show a video of Trump taking a shit on the White House lawn and present the act as disgraceful and unprofessional, but FOX News would turn around and label Trump a hero of the environment for fertilizing the lawn. FOX News viewers would then call all the others "bias" and praise FOX for telling them the truth.

If you think this is merely an exaggeration of a point, I remind you how FOX handled January 6. While all the world witnessed what Trump Nation did on every single news source, FOX News spent a lot of energy focusing on BLM riots from last year and downplaying what everybody was witnessing. And today, conservatives everywhere accuse all the others as bias or for exaggerating what Trump Nation did, while not caring about BLM riots, despite all those sources covering those riots and Democrats condemning those BLM riots as they occurred. But FOX provided a false narrative, thus the manipulated viewers run with it. And they will vote accordingly. This is how FOX News pandered to right-wing agendas on January 6, and provided comfort for the millions of conservative viewers who wanted a distraction from what Trump Nation truly is.
 
MSgt said:
It's this attitude that allows FOX News and other right-wing sources to play their games and manipulate.

The studies (and I can produce them) are very clear about FOX News bias and for producing right-wing propaganda that deceives its viewers. Yet, people who prefer that right-wing manipulation immediately default to assuming all who declare it bias...are themselves bias. This is why "fake news" was so delicious a tool for conservatives when dismissing every single one of Trump's routine scandals. All the world's media could show a video of Trump taking a shit on the White House lawn and present the act as disgraceful and unprofessional, but FOX News would turn around and label Trump a hero of the environment for fertilizing the lawn. FOX News viewers would then call all the others "bias" and praise FOX for telling them the truth.

If you think this is merely an exaggeration of a point, I remind you how FOX handled January 6. While all the world witnessed what Trump Nation did on every single news source, FOX News spent a lot of energy focusing on BLM riots from last year and downplaying what everybody was witnessing. And today, conservatives everywhere accuse all the others as bias or for exaggerating what Trump Nation did, while not caring about BLM riots, despite all those sources covering those riots and Democrats condemning those BLM riots as they occurred. But FOX provided a false narrative, thus the manipulated viewers run with it. And they will vote accordingly. This is how FOX News pandered to right-wing agendas on January 6, and provided comfort for the millions of conservative viewers who wanted a distraction from what Trump Nation truly is.
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The other poster listed 3 supposedly unbiased fact checkers. Unfortunately they aren't and if you ever approached them without your own bias, or examined any unbiased reviews of them you'd realize that. But you would have to not carry your own bias into the project in order to do that.

As for the FOX coverage of the Jan 6 riot I can only observe that you have no idea what you're talking about. What was the FOX false narrative?
 
bubbabgone said:
The other poster listed 3 supposedly unbiased fact checkers. Unfortunately they aren't and if you ever approached them without your own bias, or examined any unbiased reviews of them you'd realize that. But you would have to not carry your own bias into the project in order to do that.
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Funny how all things that reveal FOX News for what it is, is dismissed as "bias." It's like I stated, you don't like that, thus you pretend that all else is bias.

2012 Study: They found that someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer 1.04 domestic questions correctly compared to 1.22 for those who watched no news at all.

2015 Study: A new study by Bruce Bartlett, a conservative economist, top official in the H.W. Bush administration and domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan, concluded that Fox News viewers tend to be less informed and engage in "self-brainwashing."

2016 Study: William Poundstone has done similar surveys, both of current events and with more general knowledge. "In my research too, Fox News viewers scored the lowest of over 30 popular news sources (though Fox viewers did at least score better than those saying they didn't follow the news)."

2017 Study: Trump has received unsparing coverage for most weeks of his presidency, without a single major topic where Trump’s coverage, on balance, was more positive than negative, setting a new standard for unfavorable press coverage of a president. Fox was the only news outlet in the study that came close to giving Trump positive coverage overall, however, there was variation in the tone of Fox’s coverage depending on the topic. When Trump’s category-by-category coverage was examined for each of the seven U.S. news outlets in our study, a consistent pattern emerged. The sources of Trump’s most and least negative coverage were similar for every outlet, except for Fox News.

2019 Study: Fox News likes to tout the “hard news” side of its operation, setting up a false distinction between its right-wing prime-time hosts and the members of its news team as a defense against those who flag the propaganda, lies, conspiracy theories, and bigotry that pervade the network. But a Media Matters investigation found that the “news side” isn't as inoculated as the network claims. We looked at Fox News and Fox Business programming for the first four months of 2019, and we documented examples of the “news” division spreading misinformation on air every single day between January 1 and April 30.

The studies are clear and span the distance of time. The charts you were shown are clear and span the distance of time. All "bias," right? The fact that you still can't even acknowledge what Trump said about disinfectant tells us that you are still playing your bias game to deny the reality.


bubbabgone said:
As for the FOX coverage of the Jan 6 riot I can only observe that you have no idea what you're talking about. What was the FOX false narrative?
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More obtuse games. The narrative was to focus on 2020 BLM riots, then a promotion of Antifa as the real culprits behind January 6. See what I mean about your need to dismiss in order to cling to the actual brainwashing bias?
 
bubbabgone said:
The other poster listed 3 supposedly unbiased fact checkers. Unfortunately they aren't and if you ever approached them without your own bias, or examined any unbiased reviews of them you'd realize that. But you would have to not carry your own bias into the project in order to do that.
As for the FOX coverage of the Jan 6 riot I can only observe that you have no idea what you're talking about. What was the FOX false narrative?
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I can show where both CNN and MSNBC used a false narrative.....the cop being hit in the head died because he was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher. That scenario was used 24/7 while FNC told the truth he wasn't hit in the head or any where else with a fire extinguisher. How did you they do this? FNC talked to the relatives and listened to the head of the DC police department.
Plain and simple fact....CNN and MSNBC used rumors for their reporting a falsehood. CNN did recant their false reporting but not sure if MSNBC did or not and simple let it slip thru the cracks hoping it would not be noticed..
 
MSgt said:
More obtuse games. The narrative was to focus on 2020 BLM riots, then a promotion of Antifa as the real culprits behind January 6. See what I mean about your need to dismiss in order to cling to the actual brainwashing bias?
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I kind of see your point...FNC was pointing out the riots during the summer and was wondering why the MSM down played those riots while focusing on the DC riots. There is evidence that some Antifa member were at the DC riots and one in particular, John Sullivan, did an interview on left wing cable news CNN and ABC 'Good Morning America'.
Prior to entering the Capitol building, John Sullivan can be seen using a microphone to address the crowd outside and yelling "we about to burn this s**t down" before leading the crowd in a chant of "it's time for a revolution," FBI Special Agent Matthew Foulger said in an affidavit. Speaking to Rolling Stone, Sullivan said: "I was worried about people recognizing me and thinking that I was Antifa or, like, BLM or whatever.
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www.newsweek.com

Left-wing Activist Charged in Capitol Riot

Utah man who claimed he was in Washington as a journalist was filmed yelling "let's burn this s**t down" to crowd at Capitol.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
 
antiquity said:
I kind of see your point...FNC was pointing out the riots during the summer and was wondering why the MSM down played those riots while focusing on the DC riots. There is evidence that some Antifa member were at the DC riots and one in particular, John Sullivan, did an interview on left wing cable news CNN and ABC 'Good Morning America'.

www.newsweek.com

Left-wing Activist Charged in Capitol Riot

Utah man who claimed he was in Washington as a journalist was filmed yelling "let's burn this s**t down" to crowd at Capitol.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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And with that evidence, right-wing sources attempted to excuse Trump Nation and pin it on Antifa. It's probably a good bet that at least one of the fools on January 6 was a homosexual too. This does not excuse Trump Nation or make it a gay event, anymore than it was a BLM event. On the contrary, BLM managed not to attack America when it demonstrated in D.C. In fact, Trump had them attacked for a photo-op, didn't he?

Focusing so much energy on last years riots, during the D.C. attack, and on Antifa, despite the Trump Nation enthusiasm of the day, was all right-wing propaganda, which was meant to comfort Trump Nation and re-direct their irrational outrage back to "the left." But despite the lie, all the media clearly DID report on last years riots. It's why everybody knows about them. And Democrats, to include Biden, DID publicly condemn last year's riots. Yet, ever since January 6, we have all seen conservative posters here downplay Trump Nation's deed and promote the falsehood that the "MSM" ignored BLM riots and that Democrats did not condemn.

All clear and easily proven lies created by the right-wing and pushed as truth to those who allowed themselves to be duped over and over and over for years about one thing or another.
 
MSgt said:
Funny how all things that reveal FOX News for what it is, is dismissed as "bias." It's like I stated, you don't like that, thus you pretend that all else is bias.

2012 Study: They found that someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer 1.04 domestic questions correctly compared to 1.22 for those who watched no news at all.

2015 Study: A new study by Bruce Bartlett, a conservative economist, top official in the H.W. Bush administration and domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan, concluded that Fox News viewers tend to be less informed and engage in "self-brainwashing."

2016 Study: William Poundstone has done similar surveys, both of current events and with more general knowledge. "In my research too, Fox News viewers scored the lowest of over 30 popular news sources (though Fox viewers did at least score better than those saying they didn't follow the news)."

2017 Study: Trump has received unsparing coverage for most weeks of his presidency, without a single major topic where Trump’s coverage, on balance, was more positive than negative, setting a new standard for unfavorable press coverage of a president. Fox was the only news outlet in the study that came close to giving Trump positive coverage overall, however, there was variation in the tone of Fox’s coverage depending on the topic. When Trump’s category-by-category coverage was examined for each of the seven U.S. news outlets in our study, a consistent pattern emerged. The sources of Trump’s most and least negative coverage were similar for every outlet, except for Fox News.

2019 Study: Fox News likes to tout the “hard news” side of its operation, setting up a false distinction between its right-wing prime-time hosts and the members of its news team as a defense against those who flag the propaganda, lies, conspiracy theories, and bigotry that pervade the network. But a Media Matters investigation found that the “news side” isn't as inoculated as the network claims. We looked at Fox News and Fox Business programming for the first four months of 2019, and we documented examples of the “news” division spreading misinformation on air every single day between January 1 and April 30.

The studies are clear and span the distance of time. The charts you were shown are clear and span the distance of time. All "bias," right? The fact that you still can't even acknowledge what Trump said about disinfectant tells us that you are still playing your bias game to deny the reality.




More obtuse games. The narrative was to focus on 2020 BLM riots, then a promotion of Antifa as the real culprits behind January 6. See what I mean about your need to dismiss in order to cling to the actual brainwashing bias?
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That was hilarious. You used a bunch of left-wing sites to prove FOX reporting is biased. The capper was the one from Media Matters!!!!!
And despite that at least one of them showed Trump's negative coverage was far more than normal ... but that wasn't bias, right?
And 2 of your links talked about the same study. Don't you bother checking these things out before posting them?
Bravo on your bold analysis.

As for your other mistake, you still don't know what you're talking about. FOX did not dismiss the Jan 6 riots in the least, but your news sources certainly didn't stress the 2020 riots ... and neither did the politicians your own politics doubtlessly align with.
If you want to dismiss the 2020 riots as insignificant even though they caused far more destruction and deaths than the Jan 6 riot because your favorite news sources chose to do that, that's pretty revealing ... only you don't realize it. And you're probably not aware of all the corrections those favorite news sources like CNN and WAPO have had to issue.
 
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antiquity said:
I kind of see your point...FNC was pointing out the riots during the summer and was wondering why the MSM down played those riots while focusing on the DC riots. There is evidence that some Antifa member were at the DC riots and one in particular, John Sullivan, did an interview on left wing cable news CNN and ABC 'Good Morning America'.

www.newsweek.com

Left-wing Activist Charged in Capitol Riot

Utah man who claimed he was in Washington as a journalist was filmed yelling "let's burn this s**t down" to crowd at Capitol.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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Yup ...
jan 6 rioters.jpg
 
MSgt said:
Funny how all things that reveal FOX News for what it is, is dismissed as "bias." It's like I stated, you don't like that, thus you pretend that all else is bias.

2012 Study: They found that someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer 1.04 domestic questions correctly compared to 1.22 for those who watched no news at all.

2015 Study: A new study by Bruce Bartlett, a conservative economist, top official in the H.W. Bush administration and domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan, concluded that Fox News viewers tend to be less informed and engage in "self-brainwashing."

2016 Study: William Poundstone has done similar surveys, both of current events and with more general knowledge. "In my research too, Fox News viewers scored the lowest of over 30 popular news sources (though Fox viewers did at least score better than those saying they didn't follow the news)."

2017 Study: Trump has received unsparing coverage for most weeks of his presidency, without a single major topic where Trump’s coverage, on balance, was more positive than negative, setting a new standard for unfavorable press coverage of a president. Fox was the only news outlet in the study that came close to giving Trump positive coverage overall, however, there was variation in the tone of Fox’s coverage depending on the topic. When Trump’s category-by-category coverage was examined for each of the seven U.S. news outlets in our study, a consistent pattern emerged. The sources of Trump’s most and least negative coverage were similar for every outlet, except for Fox News.

2019 Study: Fox News likes to tout the “hard news” side of its operation, setting up a false distinction between its right-wing prime-time hosts and the members of its news team as a defense against those who flag the propaganda, lies, conspiracy theories, and bigotry that pervade the network. But a Media Matters investigation found that the “news side” isn't as inoculated as the network claims. We looked at Fox News and Fox Business programming for the first four months of 2019, and we documented examples of the “news” division spreading misinformation on air every single day between January 1 and April 30.

The studies are clear and span the distance of time. The charts you were shown are clear and span the distance of time. All "bias," right? The fact that you still can't even acknowledge what Trump said about disinfectant tells us that you are still playing your bias game to deny the reality.


More obtuse games. The narrative was to focus on 2020 BLM riots, then a promotion of Antifa as the real culprits behind January 6. See what I mean about your need to dismiss in order to cling to the actual brainwashing bias?
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That was hilarious. You used a bunch of left-wing sites to prove FOX reporting is biased. The capper was the one from Media Matters!!!!!
And despite that at least one of them showed Trump's negative coverage was far more than the positive ... but that wasn't bias, right? FOX's was about even. Didn't you read it?
And 2 of your links talked about the same study. Don't you bother checking these things out before posting them?
Bravo on your bold analysis.

As for your other mistake, you still don't know what you're talking about. FOX did not dismiss the Jan 6 riots in the least, but your news sources certainly didn't stress the 2020 riots ... and neither did the politicians your own politics doubtless align with.
If you want to dismiss the 2020 riots as insignificant even though they caused far more destruction and deaths than the Jan 6 riot because your favorite news sources chose to do that, that's pretty revealing ... only you don't realize it. And you're probably not aware of all the corrections your favorite news sources like CNN and WAPO have had to issue.
 
My main problem with Greg Gutfeld and many of the Fox people is they're condescending and just plain rude.
They lecture guests and belittle anyone with an opposing opinion and it's just not a journalistic style I enjoy even if I agreed with him.

He acts as if anyone who dares to disagree with him is an unamerican idiot who just lacks the mental capacity to understand whatever subject they're discussing even if that person happens to have a doctorate in the subject.

I don't think he realises it's possible to disagree with someone and still remain civil.
 
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