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I cant keep going over the same ground. I told you.
But you dont WANT to understand
have you provided evidence??
I cant keep going over the same ground. I told you.
But you dont WANT to understand
math is a universal truth
It's too bad you don't grasp the reality of it.
No such thing as universal truth. Math was made up by human beings. Without them, there is no such thing.
what is it?
math was not made up by anyone, it is always present
Look! Some math! Set a trap for it! We'll cook it for dinner.
I realize that you can't grasp it. Hint: it is not make believe.
what??
yeah sure
yes i understnad that we have been through this but it is my understanding that the ontoogical argument is flawless
The ontological argument is very flawed, to the point that it is its own logical fallacy.
The Ontological Argument Fallacy - The Philosophy Forum
So is the teleological argument The Teleological Argument
The concept of intelligent design is at odds with the theory of evolution because for every positive change in a life form there are 3-4 random changes that makes the form of life less able to succeed and reproduce and that life form dies off.1.)Human artifacts are products of intelligent design.
That one in particular deserves a militant reaction. The world will be a better place when every christian church is converted into a coffee shop.
The ontological argument is very flawed, to the point that it is its own logical fallacy.
The Ontological Argument Fallacy - The Philosophy Forum
Do you know what make believe is?
Exactly. Where do you see math?
the forum wasn't about plantigas model
What exactly are you trying to say?
the forum post was on imaginging a being while plantiga focuses on just the Maximally great being
Is this a religious apologetic concept because either the creator deity exists and can be proven in a way that doesn't use faith or belief or it does not. You can imagine anything but that doesn't mean that it actually exists in any form outside of your mind's creation. A delusion is also the creation of the mind....................
how is it in our head only?
One of our regular chatters has a predilection to often use the phrase “militant atheist”. I have seen other chatter use it also.
So it got me to thInking: What exactly is a militant atheist? Is it an atheist who openly avows his atheism. What’s wrong with that? Or maybe a person who is willing to publicly debate his or her atheism. Again, how exactly is that a problem?
At least in the United States, we have the First Amendment that allows atheists to openly acknowledge same. The first part of the First Amendment allows for free speech, and the second part for living WITHOUT religion.
We know that some ministers openly sell their religion on TV, and often take in a good amount of filthy lucre doing so. What is an atheist developed a TV program. Would there be a huge outcry from the religionists that it would ruin our youth and destroy our nation? Very likely, at least from some.
So what exactly is a militant atheist? Maybe some of out theistic friends can help us with this.
As for “nasty racist”, I’ve only seen it used once, and that was as a confession by someone that he was a “nasty racist” until his mid-20s. I’ll see if he will explain what that meant. He got in people’s faces uninvited regarding their religious beliefs? He enjoys picking fights with believers? I don’t know.
I hope that I am neither a militant nor a nasty racist. I only discuss it with those who have a secure faith and who basically offer an invitation to do so. I have lived next door to a minister/retired minister for 15 years and we have never discussed it. We discuss mowing our yards and tending our gardens. He knows I don’t go to church, and he may know that I am a Humanist because he sometimes picks up my mail when I am on vacation, and I receive letters from the American Humanist Association, but he may not even know what a Humanist is. Most people don’t. And I really consider myself more of a Humanist than an atheist. It’s how I describe myself.
I certainly discuss it in here because the is a voluntary forum. It’s a tough place for believers, but they don’t have to be here. They can always go to a Christian chat room if it gets too tough for them on here.
Anyway, my advice is to not be a nasty racist. More bees with honey than with vinegar,and that sort of thing.
As for a “militant atheist”, I still don’t know what that is!
Militant atheist might refer to the "new atheist."
They're following the dictates of Dawkins to mock and humiliate theists with every opportunity.
Unless you can prove that God actually exists in some sentient form then the idea of God exists only in your imagination and that of others, just like Santa, unicorns, and leprechauns. When I watch groups of people discuss god it is little different than watching people with common delusions and kids discussing Harry Potter. In many ways, theistic religious belief is a socially acceptable delusion.
I have often said that watching people talk about religious apologetics makes as much sense to me as watching blind people argue over what the color purple looks like.