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Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice?

Luke 22:15-18...

OOPS, is soured wine not wine, or fruit of the vine?

Mark described the drink as wine mingled with myrrh ( Mark 15:23 ). The drink offered to Jesus was a cheap Roman vinegar wine, which had a drug mixed in to dull the senses.

OMG, jesus did drugs.
 
I should have made a poll out of this ....
 
OOPS is right...:roll:

It was CHEAP Roman wine. They likely took the stuff that got slightly contaminated, and soured. That is STILL wine. And it was drugged, so it was like Thunderbird. OR fortified soured wine.
 
I've an idea for your next poll: Was Jesus naked when crucified?

:giggle1:...just about as important as all his other polls so far...;)
 
I've an idea for your next poll: Was Jesus naked when crucified?

Funny thing, after he was risen, he had clothes, and pure white. But still had the holes in his wrists. I want to know if heaven is all naked. We could all be in trouble, for the pompous religious say that your relatives will all be there, and in their prime.
SHWING.

When Jesus resurrected Lazarus, he stank, and was dirty. GROSS. Jesus got the resurrection makeover.
 
It was CHEAP Roman wine. They likely took the stuff that got slightly contaminated, and soured. That is STILL wine. And it was drugged, so it was like Thunderbird. OR fortified soured wine.

So? It was still fermented grape juice aka wine...:roll:
 
Funny thing, after he was risen, he had clothes, and pure white. But still had the holes in his wrists. I want to know if heaven is all naked. We could all be in trouble, for the pompous religious say that your relatives will all be there, and in their prime.
SHWING.

When Jesus resurrected Lazarus, he stank, and was dirty. GROSS. Jesus got the resurrection makeover.

Your crude attempts to offend are funny too in a pitying amusement way.
 
Your crude attempts to offend are funny too in a pitying amusement way.

Is that what it was? I merely chalked it up to ignorance...
 
I've an idea for your next poll: Was Jesus naked when crucified?

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I think your post is very tasteless.

I hope I am allowed this remark.

No further comment.
 
Your crude attempts to offend are funny too in a pitying amusement way.



And what about YOU!?

Did you not make a very tasteless attempt to offend me?

And your tasetless attempt was not amusing at all.
 
@ nota bene

I think an excuse on your part would be in order
 
Are you all happy with nota bene's tasteless remark?

Well, then I am the only one who thinks that this was out of order?

I am really offended by such a lack of taste.

Probably I am not allowed to say more,
 
I've an idea for your next poll: Was Jesus naked when crucified?



May I repeat that tasteless and offensive remark from nota bene ...




















I've an idea for your next poll: Was Jesus naked when crucified?





 
Are you all happy with nota bene's tasteless remark?

Well, then I am the only one who thinks that this was out of order?

I am really offended by such a lack of taste.

Probably I am not allowed to say more,

You have behaved offensively since day 1 here...I'll leave you with this last thought...

"Do not be quick to take offense, for the taking of offense lodges in the bosom of fools." Ecclesiastes 7:9
 
May I repeat that tasteless and offensive remark from nota bene ...




















I've an idea for your next poll: Was Jesus naked when crucified?






Here ya go...
 
Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice?

What do you think?

I ask this question because there are some Christian sects that do not allow their members to drink wine - or any alcohol.

Seems this thread went well.....anyway to answer your question,

Wine, but watered down wine which is what was drunk for the most part in those days, meaning it has a low alcoholic content.

Now back to whatever it is that is being discussed here...….
 
Seems this thread went well.....anyway to answer your question,

Wine, but watered down wine which is what was drunk for the most part in those days, meaning it has a low alcoholic content.

Now back to whatever it is that is being discussed here...….

Except for what Jesus made...it was the good stuff...:2razz:
 
@ nota bene

I think an excuse on your part would be in order

We're all grown folks here, at least chronologically.

My immediate thought was “Honi soit qui mal y pense.” From Wiki:

Honi soit qui mal y pense… is a French maximum used as the motto of the British chivalric Order of the Garter. It is translated as "May he be shamed who thinks badly of it"[1] or "Shame be to him who thinks evil of it" or "Evil (or shame) be to him that evil thinks"—although the French phrase is not gendered. Honi soit qui mal y pense - Wikipedia.

My second thought that you have evidently not spent much time meditating on the Crucifixion, and then I realized that as a declared Catholic, you must not be familiar with the Sorrowful Mysteries, which I find remarkable.

My third thought was that you are apparently unaware that whether Christ was crucified naked or wearing a loincloth—whether He was spared a terrible humiliation--has been a topic of debate for many, many centuries by scholars and also art historians.

From Postil Magazine:

While traditionally Jesus and the two criminals are depicted as having a sort of loincloth for modesty (in a few depictions, Jesus even wears a full-length robe, called a colobium), a few very early depictions depict the victim as either being stark naked on the cross or with some loincloth on (also see illustration at left and below right, one of which is a graffito found in Puzzuoli, with the other being a gem found in Syria, dating from the late 2nd-3rd century). As a general rule of thumb, most of these early representations are not depictions made by Christians, who still didn’t depict the Crucifixion overtly during this time period, but were usually created by non-Christians and/or Gnostics.

While some take the position that Jesus was not spared even a loincloth when He was crucified, some believe that due to Jewish sensibilities, loincloths were left on or provided (it would be fitting to remind here that many people in ancient times did not even wear loincloths; for them, their tunics served as their undergarment). So, before we could have any conclusive evidence, it would seem that the best answer here for the moment is that it depended on the situation and the location. Crucifixion, Part 2 – The Postil Magazine

The point of crucifixion was not just pain, but also humiliation, and there was tension between this and Jewish principle of “tzniut,” laws on modesty and discretion in dress and behavior. To what extent did the crowd who shouted “Crucify him!” care about tzniut? I don’t know, but I’ve at least wondered, having abandoned the jejune quite some time ago.

I hope that you will do the same. Spend some time thinking about the flagrum (the whip with thongs) and its vicious little bones that tore flesh and often caused hemorrhaging. Or watch Mel Gibson’s The Passion of the Christ to see just how bloody and awful that was. How as Jesus made His way to Calvary, he was sweaty, bloody, and covered in spit and already so grievously injured that someone else had to pick up His cross and carry it the last of the way.

And then get back to me about how scandalized you are and whether the wine was actually wine is more important or worthy than the question I suggested for your next poll.

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Jesus enjoyed real wine - for sure!
 
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