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In your opinion, what is the purest and truest religion?

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I was raised as a Southern Baptist and just had a discussion with a former Catholic who converted to Mormonism. :roll: Interesting.
Of all the world's religions, which is the truest or purest?
 
Objects are not true or pure. The tool that works for an individual is best.
 
Hmm... Perhaps atheism? It could very well be just as "true" as any of them, and it's the most pure from made up Gods.
 
Trumpism......../thread
 
Religion is entirely subjective as no one can prove one to be more right, pure or true over another. Individuals should go with whatever makes them happy. If worshipping the violent and emotional god of the Bible floats your boat then more power to you.
 
Gods are 'special friends' for adults. You're still going to die but you'll be in a better place if you believe in them. Kinda like the tooth fairy only for adults.
 
Something empty about atheism. There has to be a creator in some form. All this wonderful **** just happened randomly? I think not.
 
Something empty about atheism. There has to be a creator in some form. All this wonderful **** just happened randomly? I think not.

Saying the universe had to have a god to create it begs the question who or what created the first god? You're saying reality couldn't exist without a god but you're not explaining how that god could exist in the first place.
 
In your opinion, what is the purest and truest religion?

I have yet to see one.
 
Basically, they all are. From David Foster Wallace's great speech, "This is Water."

...In the day-to-day trenches of adult life, there is actually no such thing as atheism. There is no such thing as not worshipping. Everybody worships. The only choice we get is what to worship. And an outstanding reason for choosing some sort of God or spiritual-type thing to worship-be it J.C. or Allah, be it Yahweh or the Wiccan mother-goddess or the Four Noble Truths or some infrangible set of ethical principles-is that pretty much anything else you worship will eat you alive. If you worship money and things-if they are where you tap real meaning in life-then you will never have enough. Never feel you have enough. It's the truth. Worship your own body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly, and when time and age start showing, you will die a million deaths before they finally plant you. On one level, we all know this stuff already-it's been codified as myths, proverbs, clichés, bromides, epigrams, parables: the skeleton of every great story. The trick is keeping the truth up-front in daily consciousness. Worship power-you will feel weak and afraid, and you will need ever more power over others to keep the fear at bay. Worship your intellect, being seen as smart-you will end up feeling stupid, a fraud, always on the verge of being found out. And so on.

...the world of men and money and power hums along quite nicely on the fuel of fear and contempt and frustration and craving and the worship of self. Our own present culture has harnessed these forces in ways that have yielded extraordinary wealth and comfort and personal freedom. The freedom to be lords of our own tiny skull-sized kingdoms, alone at the center of all creation. This kind of freedom has much to recommend it. But of course there are all different kinds of freedom, and the kind that is most precious you will not hear much talked about in the great outside world of winning and achieving and displaying. The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. That is real freedom. The alternative is unconsciousness, the default-setting, the “rat race”-the constant gnawing sense of having had and lost some infinite thing.

"This is Water" by David Foster Wallace
 
Saying the universe had to have a god to create it begs the question who or what created the first god? You're saying reality couldn't exist without a god but you're not explaining how that god could exist in the first place.

Figuring out how the creator was created is above my pay grade. Or how he actually pulled it off. But just a big bang? Who lit the fuse? And the purest religion? They all have some rough spots, even Buddhism.
 
I was raised as a Southern Baptist and just had a discussion with a former Catholic who converted to Mormonism. :roll: Interesting.
Of all the world's religions, which is the truest or purest?

None.
 
Figuring out how the creator was created is above my pay grade. Or how he actually pulled it off. But just a big bang? Who lit the fuse? And the purest religion? They all have some rough spots, even Buddhism.


Guess we'll have to disagree about the origin of the universe then. But I'm convinced that when you die you don't go to a better place you're just dead. You're not going to see all your dead relatives up in heaven people you're fooling yourselves.
 
Guess we'll have to disagree about the origin of the universe then. But I'm convinced that when you die you don't go to a better place you're just dead. You're not going to see all your dead relatives up in heaven people you're fooling yourselves.

I completely disagree with the dead is dead thing. Not heaven or hell necessarily, but I've actually been in the presence of unexplainable occurrences. Didn't really believe it beforehand, either.
 
I completely disagree with the dead is dead thing. Not heaven or hell necessarily, but I've actually been in the presence of unexplainable occurrences. Didn't really believe it beforehand, either.

Ever accidentally run over a squirrel with your car? You think there's a god up in heaven who saw it coming and failed to warn you?

He's god after all.
 
I was raised as a Southern Baptist and just had a discussion with a former Catholic who converted to Mormonism. :roll: Interesting.
Of all the world's religions, which is the truest or purest?

All religions are man-made, and so they're all inevitably just as flawed as their adherents. But there's nothing wrong with that - I don't think God is perfect Himself. I think He chooses not to be perfect. Think of perfection as a Crown that He chose not to grasp.

If God were perfect, then Lucifer wouldn't have challenged Him. Why would he? You can't defeat someone who is perfect in all things. You only challenge someone in whom you perceive some kind of weakness. The question you need to ask yourself was what exactly was the weakness Lucifer saw in God that he sought to exploit? When you answer that, then you have the answer to the origin - and nature - of good and evil.
 
Ever accidentally run over a squirrel with your car? You think there's a god up in heaven who saw it coming and failed to warn you?

He's god after all.

Not really. I was talking about people who died, but weren't completely gone, and made themselves known.
 
All religions are man-made, and so they're all inevitably just as flawed as their adherents. But there's nothing wrong with that - I don't think God is perfect Himself. I think He chooses not to be perfect. Think of perfection as a Crown that He chose not to grasp.

If God were perfect, then Lucifer wouldn't have challenged Him. Why would he? You can't defeat someone who is perfect in all things. You only challenge someone in whom you perceive some kind of weakness. The question you need to ask yourself was what exactly was the weakness Lucifer saw in God that he sought to exploit? When you answer that, then you have the answer to the origin - and nature - of good and evil.

That actually makes sense.
 
If you can't explain how God came to be, then you shouldn't hold others to a different standard when they claim that it was the result of the big bang, but can't explain how the big bang started...

Or in other words, if you can't explain how God started, and think that's just fine and dandy, then not being able to explain the catalyst of the big bang should be fine and dandy too.
 
All religions are man-made, and so they're all inevitably just as flawed as their adherents. But there's nothing wrong with that - I don't think God is perfect Himself. I think He chooses not to be perfect. Think of perfection as a Crown that He chose not to grasp.

If God were perfect, then Lucifer wouldn't have challenged Him. Why would he? You can't defeat someone who is perfect in all things. You only challenge someone in whom you perceive some kind of weakness. The question you need to ask yourself was what exactly was the weakness Lucifer saw in God that he sought to exploit? When you answer that, then you have the answer to the origin - and nature - of good and evil.

Except that Lucifer is not Satan in the Bible nor has God been defeated...God has no weaknesses...
 
I was raised as a Southern Baptist and just had a discussion with a former Catholic who converted to Mormonism. :roll: Interesting.
Of all the world's religions, which is the truest or purest?
A personal one. There is amazing power in tradition, community, theology, organization, dogma & orthodoxy. End of the day, a religion's purity and ability to lift one's life through 'spiritual experience' is defined by the personal journey/relationship between oneself and "God". When you tie into that personal journey conformity with a theological framework, organization or community, you take from it it's purity in exchange for social value.

There is no harm in organized religion, but we can never put the vessel before the spirit and expect to experience raw enlightenment. Everything is temporary and passing, testable and accountable to your own spiritual experience. It is not by mistake the hermit is associated with spiritual mastery, universal to one religious tradition or knowledge base. The spiritual battle and narrow path are always within never without.
 
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