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the rumour, that before the year 1965 all Catholic church services were in Latin only

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@ the rumour, that before the year 1965 all Catholic church services were completely in Latin.
100 percent!

COMPLETELY!

Who has heard this rumour and believed it?

There must be some mis-understandings.
 
I can say this:

I have been to many Catholic church services in Germany before the year 1965.

And sermon and gospel was in German, and we prayed and sang in German - with few exceptions.

And I think it was the same in other countries then - that the local or national language was used mostly - with a little bit of Latin in between.
 
Rumpel said:
@ the rumour, that before the year 1965 all Catholic church services were completely in Latin.
100 percent!

COMPLETELY!

Who has heard this rumour and believed it?

There must be some mis-understandings.
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what is this thread about?

Why did you post this?
 
Rumpel said:
@ the rumour, that before the year 1965 all Catholic church services were completely in Latin.
100 percent!

COMPLETELY!

Who has heard this rumour and believed it?

There must be some mis-understandings.
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My aunts thought the church went to hell in a handbasket when they stopped saying Mass in Latin.
 
Grand Mal said:
My aunts thought the church went to hell in a handbasket when they stopped saying Mass in Latin.
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Well - and what exactly did they mean by "Mass in Latin"?

A mass completely in Latin?
Or a mass with Latin parts in it?
 
Rumpel said:
@ the rumour, that before the year 1965 all Catholic church services were completely in Latin.
100 percent!

COMPLETELY!

Who has heard this rumour and believed it?


There must be some mis-understandings.
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Rumor? What rumor?

Who told you it was a rumor?

From the Council of Trent, all the way up to Vatican II, the law was that the Mass be said in Latin.

I still remember the responses.
 
Rumpel said:
Well - and what exactly did they mean by "Mass in Latin"?

A mass completely in Latin?
Or a mass with Latin parts in it?
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The entire Mass was in Latin, except for the sermon and the collection.

Indeed, the priest and the alter boys faced the alter, with their backs to the congregation, except during the consecration and the communion.

Ever wonder why the alters in older Catholic Churches are up against the back wall?
 
Rumpel said:
@ the rumour, that before the year 1965 all Catholic church services were completely in Latin.
100 percent!

COMPLETELY!

Who has heard this rumour and believed it?

There must be some mis-understandings.
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Vatican II....look it up.
 
Bodecea said:
Vatican II....look it up.
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I know what Vatican II is.
I am asking YOU about your opinion or experience with Latin in the Catholic Mass.
 
noonereal said:
rumor?

ridiculous thread
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TomFitz said:
Rumor? What rumor?

Who told you it was a rumor?

From the Council of Trent, all the way up to Vatican II, the law was that the Mass be said in Latin.

I still remember the responses.
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You do not understand my question.

My question is: "Was the Mass COMPLETELY in Latin?"

From my experience it was not.
 
May I repeat my statement:

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I can say this:
I have been to many Catholic church services in Germany before the year 1965.
And sermon and gospel was in German, and we prayed and sang in German - with few exceptions.
And I think it was the same in other countries then - that the local or national language was used mostly - with a little bit of Latin in between.

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So the question remains: How Latin was the "Mass in Latin"?
It wa definitely not 100 % in Latin.
 
@ the rumour, that before the year 1965 all Catholic church services were in Latin ONLY!
With the stress on ONLY.

That is the question.
Were they really 100 % in Latin?
 
Rumpel said:
You do not understand my question.

My question is: "Was the Mass COMPLETELY in Latin?"

From my experience it was not.
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Your memory is faulty.

The Mass was entirely in Latin, from “In nominum Patrice, Sancti, et Spiritual Sancti”, to the last Amen. Hymns were in the native language, as was the collection and the readings, and the sermon.
 
The question remains.
 
The fact, that so far nobody really understood my question, does not mean that it is a "ridiculous" question.
Quite the contrary.
 
Rumpel said:
The fact, that so far nobody really understood my question, does not mean that it is a "ridiculous" question.
Quite the contrary.
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Well, with all due respect, you either did no explain yourself well, or you’re especially obtuse....
 
Just one question:

Is there anyone here, who has been to a Catholic Church service before the year 1965?
And can tell about it from personal experience?
 
Rumpel said:
The fact, that so far nobody really understood my question, does not mean that it is a "ridiculous" question.
Quite the contrary.
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No, what makes it ridiculous is that it is both extremely trivial and impossible to answer definitively.
 
I have been to Catholic Church services in 1965 and before.
And can speak from experience.
What would interest me:

Has anybody else here been there in those years?
Or knows somebody, who has been there and then?
 
Somehow funny that nobody understands this simple question.

What is a "Latin Mass" - the way you or your parents etc experienced it?

Is it 100 % in Latin - is it 50 % in Latin - or does it contain just a few lines in Latin?
 
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