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Hagia Sophia - church or mosque or museum? What should it be?

Hagia Sophia - church or mosque or museum? What should it be?

  • church

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • mosque

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • museum

    Votes: 8 61.5%
  • something else

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • no opinion

    Votes: 2 15.4%

  • Total voters
    13
I doubt that nobody really cares.

Posts speak for themselves...25 and 15 of them are yours...you figure it out...
 
Now it is a mosque again ....
 
Let the people of Turkey decide.



I dis-agree.

That is like saying in the year 1933 that the people of Germany should decide what they should do to the German synagogues and the German Jews. :roll:
 
Hagia Sophia - church or mosque or museum? What should it be?


From museum to mosque? Turkish court to rule on Hagia Sophia’s fate

From museum to mosque? Turkish court to rule on Hagia Sophia’s fate - POLITICO

This shouldn't be difficult for the politically "woke" who war against history in the US. The church was built by and for Christians, not Muslims. Muslims stole the church in wars of imperial conquest and repression. After centuries of conquering Christian lands and turning their peoples into Muslims or tax penalized oppressed, they found a way to take the City of Constantinople and steal their church's, converting by force many to the worship a deranged arab 'prophet'.

Therefore, this is a no brainer. The church was built by Christians for Christians, and must be returned to Christians. The Turkish government needs to pay for not less than six hundred years of reparation's to Christians for Muslim theft, violence and for their use of Christian slaves. All Islamic art, statutes, architecture on formerly Christian owned buildings and lands must be torn down and the City's name of Constantinople restored.

There is no debate. Right?
 
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Probably you think: "The Hagia Sophia is a far-away place of which we know little."
 
Question:

Has none of you ever heard of the famous Hagia Sophia?

Maybe some think it is one of those "parochial" German churches? :cool:


I studied the life and times of Justinian I extensively, so I'm quite familiar with the Hagia Sophia (see Of the Buildings of Justinian by Procopios, available through the Loeb). I feel it should become a museum with a strong effort to remove the layers of paint covering the Christian iconography.

I also believe that Constantinople should be handed back to the Greeks, but that will never happen.
 
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it should be a museum
 
A place where homosexual Jews can drink booze till they puke.
 
One finds that a lot on US centric sites such as this, and one just has to live with it.

So it is.
Some do not realize, that there is a world there outside the US.
Maybe the same people, who call me "parochial", because they think that Mary, Mother of Jesus, and Thomas, the Apostle, are just local saints for some German peasants, and that those saints are completely unknown in the USA.
 
And then there are those, who know every line in the OLD TESTAMENT by heart and preach about it every day again and again.

But the fate of the Hagia Sophia does not interest them in the least, because the Hagia Sophia is not mentioned in the Old Testament.
 
Cool... I mean, I'd love to go, my father went a few years back, and found it to be extremely welcoming and interesting. I guess I've just got other destinations on my bucket list, so for me it's a matter of prioritization. If I win the lottery, I'd probably make it there, but even still, cities hold less interest to me than the rural areas or seaside, if applicable.

Anyway, I'm sure they'll figure out what to do with this old building...and I'm sure it'll still be available for people to check it out, no matter what it becomes.

If you imagine infidels are welcome in all mosques think again.
 
I've been there too. It was NOT a mosque. When were you there? 1934? It has not been a mosque since then.

Hagia Sophia - Wikipedia''

You are correct! :peace
And I think it a great shame and an aggression on Erdogan's part that HAGIA SOPHIA is now a mosque once again. :(
 
You are correct! :peace
And I think it a great shame and an aggression on Erdogan's part that HAGIA SOPHIA is now a mosque once again. :(

Me too. But it hasn't happened yet. Who knows? Before it does Erdogan may have kicked the bucket.
 
The Muslim world freaks out anytime the Israelis go near the Temple on the Mount, a masque in Israel where the profit Abraham is said to have been.

And yet they can't give back the Hagia Sophia to the Christian Orthodox Church.


It's hypocrisy.
 
The Muslim world freaks out anytime the Israelis go near the Temple on the Mount, a mosque in Israel where the profit Abraham is said to have been.

And yet they can't give back the Hagia Sophia to the Christian Orthodox Church.

They should!
 
Probably you think: "The Hagia Sophia is a far-away place of which we know little."

No.

I’ve been in the Hagia Sophia, and it’s probably one of the most impressive spaces in the world that I’ve ever been in.

Having it remain a museum is good, but converting it back to a mosque is probably fine, as long as they don’t restrict access within the building.

Given that most mosques in Istanbul are open, like the stunning Blue Mosque, it really won’t matter.

If they want it as a mosque, that’s fine.

The bigger issue is Turkey getting less secular overall. That’s sad to see.
 
The whole area was Christian back then and the Muslim raiders took entire countries,
It was always the custom of Islam, to turn the Christian churches into Mosques.

As it was the Christian custom to turn pagan temples into Churches. Looking at you Pantheon.
 
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