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Christians, what proves the existence of God more than anything?

2distracted said:
Over generalization

Reality can give one faith..and reality is measurable

The Real Presence is tangible...which is y it's called Real
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so we can run experiments on faithful Catholics and detect touchable invisible objects?
 
2distracted said:
I say the Catholic Church..well, the Catholic Church prior to Vatican II anyway..but there are still good things about the RCC...I just want to go back to the Old Church..miss it very much. Priests should face the altar, w their backs to the ppl...facing God. Otherwise it becomes a ppl pleasing thing...

Anyway, then there's the ocean...always think of God when there..the mountains of Montana..:)
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The old Catholic Church? The one that suppressed the Bible being in any language people could understand? The one that killed people over it? The one that burned and tortured people if they wanted to be Christians but not in the Catholic Church? The Catholic Church is just an institution of power, like any government that exists. It's no proof of God.

The existence of life is the biggest proof to me. Random chemicals are not going to arrange themselves into life, with the ability to consume, metabolize, reproduce, ect.
 
2distracted said:
I say the Catholic Church..well, the Catholic Church prior to Vatican II anyway..but there are still good things about the RCC...I just want to go back to the Old Church..miss it very much. Priests should face the altar, w their backs to the ppl...facing God. Otherwise it becomes a ppl pleasing thing...

Anyway, then there's the ocean...always think of God when there..the mountains of Montana..:)
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lots of things but the best thing for it is comparitive religion

all other religions are nature based and they admit it, interestinling how christianity is not

of course there is a phiopsipical arguments for God
 
TypicalRussian said:
lots of things but the best thing for it is comparitive religion

all other religions are nature based and they admit it, interestinling how christianity is not

of course there is a phiopsipical arguments for God
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No, all other religions are not nature based. Christianity is based on the physical incarnation of god as a natural human being who had to be made a blood sacrifice. Sounds nature based to me.
 
devildavid said:
No, all other religions are not nature based. Christianity is based on the physical incarnation of god as a natural human being who had to be made a blood sacrifice. Sounds nature based to me.
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all other religions are nature based, hindus worship many animal idols

i heard he was pretty naughty too, something a religous deity cant be-http://factsanddetails.com/world/cat55/sub354/entry-5633.html
 
TypicalRussian said:
all other religions are nature based, hindus worship many animal idols

i heard he was pretty naughty too, something a religous deity cant be-http://factsanddetails.com/world/cat55/sub354/entry-5633.html
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Christianity is nature based. The physical incarnation of god to be given as a blood sacrifice. Human beings are part of nature.
 
Christianity is God based

God created nature but is above it and everything else
 
What proves the existence of God...

A liberal is not in the White House

The Rs have the Senate

Ice cream
 
One man's "proof" is another man's "folly."

Proof for me came as a result of studying the Bible and relating it to my own life. Specifically, I look back on the valleys of my life, the struggles, the difficulties, the tragedies, the pain. I recall a specific scripture that I take comfort in, because it is a promise from God. And I know God is good to His word, because He has fulfilled this promise to me countless times, even times when I failed to acknowledge or even realize His presence in my life.

This particular scripture is such that in times of difficulty, I call on God to make good on His promise AGAIN! And every time I do, He comes through for me. It may not be on my terms, it might not be on my preferred schedule, but He always comes through. It's simply up to me to recognize it when it happens. He has never let me down. His promise to me is not conditional. It does not depend on me being perfect or even obedient. It literally requires nothing of me.

So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Isaiah 41:10 NIV
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OK, so let the ridicule and mockery begin. I can take it.
 
What proves the existence of God more than anything?


I say, aside from the order and complexity of the universe.......................

.............................it's the transformation we see in people who had come to God.
 
tosca1 said:
What proves the existence of God more than anything?


I say, aside from the order and complexity of the universe.......................

.............................it's the transformation we see in people who had come to God.
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None of that proves the existence of anything non physical. People do not transform. There is also chaos and simplicity in the universe.
 
devildavid said:
None of that proves the existence of anything non physical. People do not transform.
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Then, what you know about it, is quite limited. You better check out other meanings of transformation. :shrug:
And, you better research the context on which it is being used (the way I used it).




There is also chaos and simplicity in the universe.
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I think I'd take the words of the National Academy of Sciences, thank you. :lol:
Especially after you'd just demonstrated your limited knowledge of what I'm talking about.


"Scientists, like many others, are touched with awe at the order and complexity of nature."

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tosca1 said:
Then, what you know about it, is quite limited. You better check out other meanings of transformation. :shrug:
And, you better research the context on which it is being used (the way I used it).






I think I'd take the words of the National Academy of Sciences, thank you. :lol:
Especially after you'd just demonstrated your limited knowledge of what I'm talking about.


"Scientists, like many others, are touched with awe at the order and complexity of nature."

WMAP Site FAQs
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You better check out reality. It doesn't bend to your beliefs, which severely limit your view of it. Emotions do not indicate anything beyond the physical. If you believe it so much, why do you always lean on scientists to back you? Scientists have opinions and emotions, and theirs don't indicate anything more valid than anyone else.
 
devildavid said:
Christianity is nature based. The physical incarnation of god to be given as a blood sacrifice. Human beings are part of nature.
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no it is not nature based, humans are not not part of nature by themselves, scientifically yes, but anything other than humans are nature
 
devildavid said:
No, all other religions are not nature based. Christianity is based on the physical incarnation of god as a natural human being who had to be made a blood sacrifice. Sounds nature based to me.
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how is that nature based?
 
Not everyone worships Christ, they worship God Almighty only...Jesus himself said...

“It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.” Luke 4:8
 
Elvira said:
Not everyone worships Christ, they worship God Almighty only...Jesus himself said...

“It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.” Luke 4:8
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Jesus didn't say that exactly, and when he was talking to Satan he was referring to himself.
 
its hard for me to pick we have a living part of god and or special child of god who has been among us walking around for the last 2000 years who can bend reality to his will and are heavenly creator has introduced itself to every human being who has ever lived and given 1 on 1 time to each and every one of us on demand

i guess sits possible hes just in charge of some kind of artificial simulation or that other beings can acquire his level of power some how but we have no evidence of that
 
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