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Which was the first church, the one Christ founded, the one that has been around since day one

The one the gates of Hell cannot prevail against

They know their faith community only goes back a century or so
 
2distracted said:
Which was the first church, the one Christ founded, the one that has been around since day one

The one the gates of Hell cannot prevail against

They know their faith community only goes back a century or so
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My faith goes all the way back to Jesus because it is his teachings alone that I follow...Catholicism, on the other hand, was not started until the 4th century as solely a political move in order to unite Constantine's kingdom...at that time false doctrines 1st became prominent in Christendom...
 
2distracted said:
Which was the first church, the one Christ founded, the one that has been around since day one

The one the gates of Hell cannot prevail against

They know their faith community only goes back a century or so
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orthodox

plus who cares?
 
Elvira said:
My faith goes all the way back to Jesus because it is his teachings alone that I follow...Catholicism, on the other hand, was not started until the 4th century as solely a political move in order to unite Constantine's kingdom...at that time false doctrines 1st became prominent in Christendom...
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i would argue the protestant reformation was the biggest political move of christendom
 
Elvira said:
My faith goes all the way back to Jesus because it is his teachings alone that I follow...Catholicism, on the other hand, was not started until the 4th century as solely a political move in order to unite Constantine's kingdom...at that time false doctrines 1st became prominent in Christendom...
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Bad history and even worse theology.
 
2distracted said:
Which was the first church, the one Christ founded, the one that has been around since day one

The one the gates of Hell cannot prevail against

They know their faith community only goes back a century or so
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not sure any of them are
 
Elvira said:
Absolutely...Satan has seen to that...
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only if your god is fake or impotent or willfully hiding information about itself from people
 
2distracted said:
Which was the first church, the one Christ founded, the one that has been around since day one

The one the gates of Hell cannot prevail against

They know their faith community only goes back a century or so
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Where does it say in the Bible that tracing one's pedigree (as in apostolic succession) is a test for the true church?
One thing that is repeatedly stated though, is the warning for false teachings....and vigilance against the craftiness of Satan!
 
tosca1 said:
Where does it say in the Bible that tracing one's pedigree (as in apostolic succession) is a test for te true church?

One thing that is repeatedly stated though, is the warning for false teachings....and vigilance against the craftiness of Satan!
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what make anything said in the bible true? why would a god need humans to make a bible when it can talk to every one and any one at any time?
 
blarg said:
what make anything said in the bible true? why would a god need humans to make a bible when it can talk to every one and any one at any time?
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:roll:


The Bible is an official proclamation. It is a history book that explains why mankind is in need of a Saviour.
How can the world know of the Messiah and Redemption?


Furthermore.......anyone can say, "God told me to."

Consider the Bible as the "blueprint." The go-to reference to help us discern what is false teaching.
 
tosca1 said:
:roll:


The Bible is an official proclamation. It is a history book that explains why mankind is in need of a Saviour.
How can the world know of the Messiah and Redemption?


Furthermore.......anyone can say, "God told me to."

Consider the Bible as the "blueprint." The go-to reference to help us discern what is false teaching.
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no official source has confirmed those claims what use would a god have for human made books?



it has lot of mythology in it




the bible is apparently a work of people saying god told me to

you know what solves that problem and people saying what ever they want in gods name?

a god actually telling every single person what it wants and refuting false claims about itself personally to all people when ever those false claims are made
 
blarg said:
no official source has confirmed those claims what use would a god have for human made books?



it has lot of mythology in it




the bible is apparently a work of people saying god told me to

you know what solves that problem and people saying what ever they want in gods name?

a god actually telling every single person what it wants and refuting false claims about itself personally to all people when ever those false claims are made
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That's your opinion as a................... non-believer. :shrug:
 
tosca1 said:
That's your opinion as a................... non-believer. :shrug:
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different languages dont exit because of a tower all the animals never got crammed on to a boat we did not have agriculture and domestication of live stock at the start of the species deal with it


its kinda hard to not believe in a god if it keeps telling you about itself and showing off unexplained powers

like being able to talk to every one every wher which also makes it impossible to not know what a god had actually told you it wants

so in conclusion

no official source has confirmed those claims what use would a god have for human made books?



it has lot of mythology in it




the bible is apparently a work of people saying god told me to

you know what solves that problem and people saying what ever they want in gods name?

a god actually telling every single person what it wants and refuting false claims about itself personally to all people when ever those false claims are made
 
2distracted said:
Which was the first church, the one Christ founded, the one that has been around since day one
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It certainly is not a building. It is of people. A body of believers.

The first church was the one described especially in the Books of Acts and Epistles of Paul.
It is God's pattern for His church.




Ekklesia is commonly translated as “church” in the New Testament.
For example, Acts 11:26 says that “Barnabas and Saul met with the church [ekklesia]” in Antioch. And in 1 Corinthians 15:9 Paul says that he had persecuted the church [ekklesia] of God.”
The “called-out assembly,” then, is a congregation of believers whom God has called out of the world and “into His wonderful light” (1 Peter 2:9).
The Greek ekklesia is the basis for our English words ecclesiastical (“pertaining to the church”) and ecclesiology (“the study of doctrine concerning the church”).
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What is the definition of ekklesia? | GotQuestions.org


Scripture never mentions using "which church came first" as the basis for determining which is the "true" church.

What it does teach is that one is to use Scripture as the determining factor as to which church is preaching the truth and thus is true to the first church.

It is especially important to compare Scripture with a church’s teaching on such core issues as the full deity and humanity of Christ, the atonement for sin through His blood on Calvary, salvation from sin by grace through faith, and the infallibility of the Scriptures.

The “first church” and “one true church” is recorded in the New Testament. That is the church that all churches are to follow, emulate, and model themselves after.
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What was the first / original church? Is the original / first church the true church? | GotQuestions.org
 
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tosca1 said:
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The Bible is an official proclamation. It is a history book that explains why mankind is in need of a Saviour.
How can the world know of the Messiah and Redemption?


Furthermore.......anyone can say, "God told me to."

Consider the Bible as the "blueprint." The go-to reference to help us discern what is false teaching.
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Which version of the bible is official?
 
tosca1 said:
It certainly is not a building. It is of people. A body of believers.

The first church was the one described especially in the Books of Acts and Epistles of Paul.
It is God's pattern for His church.





What is the definition of ekklesia? | GotQuestions.org



What was the first / original church? Is the original / first church the true church? | GotQuestions.org
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that just your opinions as rival tribes of believers

you know what could clear this up better then the human made books you pass around an actual god telling all people about itself and what it wants
 
devildavid said:
Which version of the bible is official?
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How can you be sure that the Bible is the same now as when it was written? The Bible has been copied and translated so many times! Haven't you ever played the game where people sit in a circle and pass a sentence from one person to the next until it comes back around in a completely distorted version? If that could happen in a room in just a few minutes, think of all the errors and changes that must have filled the Bible in the centuries since it was first written!

There are three lines of evidence that support the claim that the biblical documents are reliable: these are the bibliographic test, the internal test, and the external test.

The first test examines the biblical manuscripts, the second test deals with the claims made by the biblical authors, and the third test looks to outside confirmation of the biblical content.

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How Accurate is the Bible? | Bible.org






Why are there so many Bible translations, and which is the best? | GotQuestions.org

What is the most accurate Bible translation? | GotQuestions.org
 
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